What exactly would you like to see from the Paris talks?

Mac1958

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As usual, there's a great deal of political uproar over the Paris climate talks. And as usual, all the uproar is occurring without much detail on which to base it.

I'd guess a lot of Americans are like me -- let's see what is actually in it, what it's going to cost, and what positive effects we are anticipating from it, before we decide whether we are for or against it. Crazy thought, huh? I know! We're nuts!

So if you are hoping for a new global agreement to come from these talks, I have two questions:

First, what would be a few of the major initiatives that you'd like to see come from this?

Second, for these initiatives, what new laws, regulations and restrictions would you like to see placed on private industry? What new rules would have to be put in place to match the initiatives you'd like to see?


The pushback against this is so loud that I don't know what the "other side" actually wants.

Thanks. Sure would be nice to keep this (relatively) civil.
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What I'd like, and what I actually expect are usually different. I'd like to see the building they're all in explode. :) I expect to be disappointed though.

Would like to see a unified global effort to eliminate ISIS utilizing a multi-nation wave of bombers razing Raqqa and this new Libyan 'backup base' to the ground.

Expect, nothing.

Ways things get run and done isn't working very well and either we need to replace what and who's broken and get some fresh talent in there, or we need to hand over the reigns of ower to those who'll do what's required and damn how it plays on tv.
 
What I'd like, and what I actually expect are usually different. I'd like to see the building they're all in explode. :) I expect to be disappointed though.

Would like to see a unified global effort to eliminate ISIS utilizing a multi-nation wave of bombers razing Raqqa and this new Libyan 'backup base' to the ground.

Expect, nothing.

Ways things get run and done isn't working very well and either we need to replace what and who's broken and get some fresh talent in there, or we need to hand over the reigns of ower to those who'll do what's required and damn how it plays on tv.
I thought this shindig was about a climate agreement.

:confused-84:
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What I'd like, and what I actually expect are usually different. I'd like to see the building they're all in explode. :) I expect to be disappointed though.

Would like to see a unified global effort to eliminate ISIS utilizing a multi-nation wave of bombers razing Raqqa and this new Libyan 'backup base' to the ground.

Expect, nothing.

Ways things get run and done isn't working very well and either we need to replace what and who's broken and get some fresh talent in there, or we need to hand over the reigns of ower to those who'll do what's required and damn how it plays on tv.
I thought this shindig was about a climate agreement.

:confused-84:
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Did you? Huh. :)
 
What I'd like, and what I actually expect are usually different. I'd like to see the building they're all in explode. :) I expect to be disappointed though.

Would like to see a unified global effort to eliminate ISIS utilizing a multi-nation wave of bombers razing Raqqa and this new Libyan 'backup base' to the ground.

Expect, nothing.

Ways things get run and done isn't working very well and either we need to replace what and who's broken and get some fresh talent in there, or we need to hand over the reigns of ower to those who'll do what's required and damn how it plays on tv.
I thought this shindig was about a climate agreement.

:confused-84:
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Shit no. It's about creating a global socialist government and redistributing the wealth over the entire planet. It has nothing to do with bringing down carbon emissions.

Let's be honest, shall we?


The number one way to reduce carbon emissions is to reduce consumption and to destroy the world's economy. Do you really think they discussed strategies to do that? Do you think they have G8 summits one month to discuss how to INCREASE global trade, and then several months later discuss ways to discourage the people of the earth from consuming?

Obviously not.


This is about CONTROL. They are dividing up control of the planet, undemocratically. Why else all the protesters there?

you-can-fool-some-of-the-people-all-of-the-time-and-all-of-the-people-some-of-the-time-but-you-can-not-fool-all-of-the-people-all-of-the-time4.jpg
 
Half-right, it's not about climate change. It's about a mass photo op to try and show they're doing something about climate change when in reality they're doing more of the same - nothing.
 
What I'd like, and what I actually expect are usually different. I'd like to see the building they're all in explode. :) I expect to be disappointed though.

Would like to see a unified global effort to eliminate ISIS utilizing a multi-nation wave of bombers razing Raqqa and this new Libyan 'backup base' to the ground.

Expect, nothing.

Ways things get run and done isn't working very well and either we need to replace what and who's broken and get some fresh talent in there, or we need to hand over the reigns of ower to those who'll do what's required and damn how it plays on tv.
I thought this shindig was about a climate agreement.

:confused-84:
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Shit no. It's about creating a global socialist government and redistributing the wealth over the entire planet. It has nothing to do with bringing down carbon emissions.

Let's be honest, shall we?


The number one way to reduce carbon emissions is to reduce consumption and to destroy the world's economy. Do you really think they discussed strategies to do that? Do you think they have G8 summits one month to discuss how to INCREASE global trade, and then several months later discuss ways to discourage the people of the earth from consuming?

Obviously not.


This is about CONTROL. They are dividing up control of the planet, undemocratically. Why else all the protesters there?

you-can-fool-some-of-the-people-all-of-the-time-and-all-of-the-people-some-of-the-time-but-you-can-not-fool-all-of-the-people-all-of-the-time4.jpg
Well, if I could get a few responses from those who want a comprehensive agreement, we might be able to get into some detail here.
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First, what would be a few of the major initiatives that you'd like to see come from this? None, nothing, nada, nill

Second, for these initiatives, what new laws, regulations and restrictions would you like to see placed on private industry? What new rules would have to be put in place to match the initiatives you'd like to see? Zero, Zilch, zing zoom



this meeting is a way for leftist to further put power in the hands of government.

think about this; these countries, who are all in deep debt, are gathering to pass laws and regs that will lower profits, that means lower returns on taxes, forcing them to borrow or increase taxes which will drive them deeper into debt, forcing them to borrow or increase taxes which will force them.....


It's like the want to drive thier countries into ruin, just for more power
 
I'd like to see them come to an agreement that the world cannot be powered by unicorn farts and declare unconditional war against terrorism wherever it rears it's ugly head. Then be honest and say it's technology that leads to less emissions, unless we all agree to live in teepees. And harming business will hamper, not help the advance of technological achievements.
 
I want all the attendees imprisoned for false claims and false statements, fraud, corruption, racketeering, embezzlement, bribery, and whatever else we can think of.

Long sentences in solitary confinement, in a Russian prison at the Arctic Circle.
 
I'd like to see that Obambam defect to the UN and all those other idiots in Paris for some talk on how they can CHANGE THE CLIMATE. and we never hear his name ever again
 
Failed thread!

People really don't know what kinds of laws and regulations they want to see from this event to combat climate change?

Does this mean they're just going to go along with anything?

Is that how bad this has gotten?
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Well...we do know what Big Ears and the other warmer elites want. They want heavy taxation on carbon emissions applied to first world nations, particularly the USA. It is all about redistribution of wealth and enriching the elites, which one of the assholes admitted to some time ago.
 
Failed thread!

People really don't know what kinds of laws and regulations they want to see from this event to combat climate change?

Does this mean they're just going to go along with anything?

Is that how bad this has gotten?
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Well...we do know what Big Ears and the other warmer elites want. They want heavy taxation on carbon emissions applied to first world nations, particularly the USA. It is all about redistribution of wealth and enriching the elites, which one of the assholes admitted to some time ago.
Yeah, that's the best answer I've gotten so far. I sure would like to drill down a bit on that - maybe "drill down" isn't the best phrase - but I'm beginning to doubt that they can.

The hope just appears to be the most regulations and taxes possible, to hell with unintended consequences. That does concern me.
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