Zone1 What does The Chosen People actually mean?

[Donald H]

Yes, I have made my feelings known. It's not a surprise to anyone that I think you are a religious nutjob spreading hate over religious differences trying to create conflict and division. That you compare yourself to Jesus is just the latest example of your batshit crazy beliefs.

The jesus was a mortal man just like the rest of men. Raising him to god status is acceptable if it's merely symbolic.

We've already reached agreement on the bibles mostly not being literally true.

For example, nobody is going to claim Genesis was meant to be read as literally true. Christians fearing to say that it's just symbolic, doesn't make any of it true!

 

[Woodznutz]

Being chosen as a nation is different than being chosen for the church, although it's better to live in the nation chosen by God when he chooses you for the church. In fact, one reason there are such nations chosen by God is that the church can flourish freely within them.

 

[BreezeWood]

Swingers? You talk about this supposed heavenly religion of antiquity like it's known by everyone. You must be talking about Islam.

... you and 558 may live in the dark ally but that is not the case for mary joseph jesus mary m - they were swingers chosing self determination than servitude and denial.

the four heavenly exemplars during that time the 1st century had all the ingredients not integral to the moses false commandments, judaism - in particular their lack of fear, living their chosen life styles free from intimidation.

liberation theology, self determination the mission chosen by jesus till their untimely death made certain by the desperate crucifiers to maintain their callous grip on society through fear and intimidation with no choice for them than to murder who defied them.

the heavenly religion of antiquity is reestablished by the parable of noah and their refrain from ever intervening again for the sake of humanity - well known if not burred deep in the recesses of spiritual freedom by the false prevailing religions undisturbed in disrepute from their beginnings.

 

[Donald H]

Being chosen as a nation is different than being chosen for the church, although it's better to live in the nation chosen by God when he chooses you for the church. In fact, one reason there are such nations chosen by God is that the church can flourish freely within them.

What does it mean by saying that the god chooses a person for the church?

Is that meant to be literally true, or just symbolic for the sake of the believers.

 

[hobelim]

The jesus was a mortal man just like the rest of men. Raising him to god status is acceptable if it's merely symbolic.

No raising any mortal to god status is always unacceptable.

Jesus claimed that God told him what to say and how to say it so to hear the words of Jesus is to hear the words of God but that does not make Jesus God anymore than a messenger who coveys the wisdom of his master is his master, even symbolically.

 

[hobelim]

For example, nobody is going to claim Genesis was meant to be read as literally true. Christians fearing to say that it's just symbolic, doesn't make any of it true!

One must decipher the complicated metaphors, like a talking serpent, to comprehend what the story is literally about. For as long as I can remember there has been a plague of talking serpents running amok worldwide and almost everyone who is bitten dies, loses their sanity.

A talking serpent represents a con artist, a malignant narcisist, like trump or Putin. People who have been "beguiled" by those assholes are people who are possessed by demons.

Trump himself is possessed by many demons and this current reality ain't no fairy tale.

Thats the literal truth.

 

[Donald H]

One must decipher the complicated metaphors, like a talking serpent, to comprehend what the story is literally about. For as long as I can remember there has been a plague of talking serpents running amok worldwide and almost everyone who is bitten dies, loses their sanity.

A talking serpent represents a con artist, a malignant narcisist, like trump or Putin.

People who have been "beguiled" by those assholes are people possessed by demons.

Trump himself is possessed by many demons and this actual reality ain't no fairy tale.

Thats the literal truth.

Granted that the talking snake is symbolically true. Is there anything in the Christian bibles that is literally true?

 

[hobelim]

Granted that the talking snake is symbolically true. Is there anything in the Christian bibles that is literally true?

You must include in your speculations that when most of the Bible was written it was written during times of oppression exile or war and there was no such thing as freedom of speech and people were imprisoned, tortured, enslaved, maimed and slaughtered on a daily basis without any justice for trivial reasons. That being said any "demonized" group of people who wrote scripture, whether Jewish or Christian, wrote in code just like any "criminalized" or "outlawed" group of people like the cosa nostra still speak in code to this day. Capisce?

One must learn "the figurative language of the prophets" to know what they were saying.

Its all literally true.

"The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure buried in a field. (the Bible) The man who found it (Jesus) BURIED IT AGAIN". If you look and look and keep on looking you will find it.

Can you dig it?

 

[BreezeWood]

Its all literally true.

certainly for what have been the repercussions ...

for what people have believed and those that live their lives to torment them.

to say its been the victims that deserve the history they have suffered begs who they are that have made that their issue to make come true.

 

[Woodznutz]

What does it mean by saying that the god chooses a person for the church?

Is that meant to be literally true, or just symbolic for the sake of the believers.

It's literally true. Sadly, many 'join' churches without having been called and chosen by God. Not good for them or the church.

 

[ding]

I know. Good job!

But I think that celebrating the death of Jesus and eating him already made them very clear.



Jesus said, "I have not come to bring peace but division." Luke 12:51

That's exactly the kind of thing a religious nutjob would say about a rival religion he was attacking.

 

[ding]

The jesus was a mortal man just like the rest of men. Raising him to god status is acceptable if it's merely symbolic.

We've already reached agreement on the bibles mostly not being literally true.

For example, nobody is going to claim Genesis was meant to be read as literally true. Christians fearing to say that it's just symbolic, doesn't make any of it true!

As hard as it may be for you to accept, the evidence says otherwise.

 

[ding]

the four heavenly exemplars during that time the 1st century had all the ingredients not integral to the moses false commandments, judaism - in particular their lack of fear, living their chosen life styles free from intimidation.

liberation theology, self determination the mission chosen by jesus till their untimely death made certain by the desperate crucifiers to maintain their callous grip on society through fear and intimidation with no choice for them than to murder who defied them.

the heavenly religion of antiquity is reestablished by the parable of noah and their refrain from ever intervening again for the sake of humanity - well known if not burred deep in the recesses of spiritual freedom by the false prevailing religions undisturbed in disrepute from their beginnings.

And your evidence for these beliefs are what?

 

[Woodznutz]

the four heavenly exemplars during that time the 1st century had all the ingredients not integral to the moses false commandments, judaism - in particular their lack of fear, living their chosen life styles free from intimidation.

liberation theology, self determination the mission chosen by jesus till their untimely death made certain by the desperate crucifiers to maintain their callous grip on society through fear and intimidation with no choice for them than to murder who defied them.

the heavenly religion of antiquity is reestablished by the parable of noah and their refrain from ever intervening again for the sake of humanity - well known if not burred deep in the recesses of spiritual freedom by the false prevailing religions undisturbed in disrepute from their beginnings.

In what universe was Joseph and Mary M "heavenly exemplars"?

It is well-known that Rome persecuted the true church for the first 200 years of its existence. It only stopped when Rome 'appropriated' the popular religion as its own (corrupting it with its pagan practices). The true church fled to the "wilderness" until the Reformation made it safe to reappear. See Revelation 12.

 

[Woodznutz]

For example, nobody is going to claim Genesis was meant to be read as literally true. Christians fearing to say that it's just symbolic, doesn't make any of it true!

The Bible is a book of truth, whether literal or figurative.

 

[Donald H]

The Bible is a book of truth, whether literal or figurative.

I'm good with it being figurative or symbolic.

Talkiag snakes and the Jonah/big fish story? Uh uh.

To be charitable towar your beliefs: Eve and Lucy being the same worman. Hmmmmmm? Maybe?

Don't let my opinion spoil your day.

 

[Donald H]

As hard as it may be for you to accept, the evidence says otherwise.

Your church has addressed that question and given you permission to believe in Darwinian evolution to replace the Genesis comedy routine!.

That's just one of life's sacrifices the CC knew couldn't be delayed any longer.

Enlightened atheists are becoming interested on the hunch that the whole truth is coming!

 

[Donald H]

It's literally true. Sadly, many 'join' churches without having been called and chosen by God. Not good for them or the church.

All that's important to the church is that their money is as good as the literal believers!

 

[ding]

Your church has addressed that question and given you permission to believe in Darwinian evolution to replace the Genesis comedy routine!.

That's just one of life's sacrifices the CC knew couldn't be delayed any longer.

Enlightened atheists are becoming interested on the hunch that the whole truth is coming!

I never needed permission, dummy. Besides Genesis already told us 6,000 years before science that the universe was created from nothing and then evolved sequentially in a logical fashion over time.

 

[Woodznutz]

Talkiag snakes and the Jonah/big fish story? Uh uh.

Talking snake, no, big fish, yes.
Lucifer inside of Eve's head, yes.