What do normal people - think of Israel?

[gtopa1]

The sample referred to was the US and Israel. Most of your reply was a catalogue of excuses for the way normal people view Israel.

Hasbara in the morning.

So much for objectivity and neutrality.

Not that it wasn't already becoming quite clear from early postings.

Thank you for clearly identifying your motives, my little Palestinian-Hamas propaganda shill and fifth-columnist.

Carry on, Abdul.

It seems that small minded pakeha jaffas maintain their rage against all supporters of the USA and Israel. Fortunately they are not a reflection of most kiwis and of their very well supported conservative government.

Greg

 

[docmauser1]

Not all nations steal passports (from allies!) in order to facilitate their assassination attempts. After they've said they won't! How do you know the Israeli government is lying? Its lips are moving.

• In 1973, Mossad agents killed a waiter in Norway in the mistaken belief that he was a senior operative for Black September. The use of false Canadian passports by the killers prompted a diplomatic crisis in relations between Canada and Israel, resulting in a commitment by Israel not to misuse Canadian passports in the future. It also resulted in a redesign of the Canadian passport to improve its security features.[42]
• In 1997, Israeli secret service personnel again botched an assassination bid while using 'Canadian passports'. The attempt against Khaled Mashal in Jordan resulted in the arrest of the would-be killers. The Foreign Affairs Minister Lloyd Axworthy eventually received an apology and a written assurance that Mossad would desist from using Canadian passports.[43]

Canadian passport - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

[cue yawn]

 

[docmauser1]

Yeah, normal people think Israelis think that while refusing to learn the lessons of history. None so blind as those who will not see. Oh, I remember another one. Normal people think that Israel wags the US.

Normal people have a life and a job, of course.

so you must be unemployed then doc

Projectionism much?

 

[Hossfly]

How convenient for the sake of argument, eh?

It's more than just convenient, it happens to be true. It's also illegal. The occupying power cannot transfer a portion of it's citizens to the area it occupy's.

But on a moral platform- what happened to the indigenous communities in in these lands far outdoes any wrongdoings against the non-indigenous Palestinian population in the Middle East.

I'm not sure what your point is here. The indigenous communities are the Palestinian-Arabs, who owned 90% of the land and the Palestinian-Jews, who owned 10% of the land, before the asshole Zionists migrated in with their racist, apartheid policies.

ZIONISTS BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD HERE,Billo,but you should have said "ZIONIST TERRORISTS" to be correct,just sayin steve

theliq You always point out that you're neutral and defend both sides but I've never seen you blister the Pals like you do the Israelis. Remember: anti-Zionism equals anti-Semitism. Plus you use the word "Zionist" as an expletive.

 

[cnm]

So much for objectivity and neutrality.

Not that it wasn't already becoming quite clear from early postings.

Thank you for clearly identifying your motives, my little Palestinian-Hamas propaganda shill and fifth-columnist.

Carry on, Abdul.

For gods' sakes, talk about objectivity and neutrality. You're the only one who has stated they're not neutral. You won't understand you've done that.

I stand with my people - the majority of my countrymen - Americans - and I stand by Israel, as a rule of thumb.

 

[cnm]

What? Intelligence specialist much?

Some countries don't steal passports to assist in their covert assassination attempts and some countries do. Israel is one of the countries that does. Normal people understand this.

 

[cnm]

[cue yawn]

Unpleasant truth spoken, must deflect with yawn.

 

[Phoenall]

Still waiting for you to produce irrefutable evidence that this is the case, and not the false claims made by some sensationalist media outlets. Because the ISLAMONAZI's pointed the finger at Israel doing it led to it being blown all out of proportion, then hushed up when it was found to be ISLAMONAZI executioners doing it.

How about the convictions of the thieves, will that do?

In any case, 'irrefutable evidence' is not required either in court or for people's opinions. Beyond reasonable doubt is enough to send someone to prison, less stringent standards are enough to have it thought Israel steals passports. Which it does.

So you can produce convictions for Israeli war crimes then ? Because that was one of your claims, I wont hold my breath

 

[Phoenall]

Not as you are trying to portray for starters, many now see Israel as the persecuted nation after the press exposure of the war crimes committed by hamas in gaza. So team Palestine is doing everything it can to blacken the name of Israel and the Jews and force decent people to turn on them

I love the smell of Hasbara in the morning.

It smells like.....desperation.

NOPE that would be your ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA

 

[Phoenall]

Oh, that's another one, casts itself as a victim.

So normal people think of Israel in connection to

apartheid,
thieving,
war crimes,
wags the US,
doesn't keep its promises,
casts itself as a victim.

Now we're starting to get somewhere.

NOPE that is just your ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA

 

[cnm]

So you can produce convictions for Israeli war crimes then ? Because that was one of your claims, I wont hold my breath

Do words mean nothing to you people? My claim is that normal people think Israel is guilty of war crimes.

Israel has said, as I have noted and you have ignored, that it does not intend to be a party state to the Treaty of Rome.

Here is evidence that such a belief is not baseless:

Human Rights Watch accuses Israel of war crimes in Gaza

Human Rights Watch accuses Israel of war crimes in Gaza Reuters

(Reuters) - Human Rights Watch accused Israel of committing war crimes by attacking three U.N.-run schools in the Gaza Strip in fighting in July and August, killing Palestinian civilians who had sheltered there.

The New York-based group issued a report on Thursday that it described as the first in-depth documentation of the incidents, which took place during a 50-day conflict between Israel and Palestinian militants that ended in a ceasefire on Aug. 26.

"Three Israeli attacks that damaged Gaza schools housing displaced people caused numerous civilian casualties in violation of the laws of war," it said in the report, based on interviews with witnesses and field research in the Hamas Islamist-dominated enclave.

 

[cnm]

NOPE that is just your ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA

Hoho, next you'll be talking about WMD being north east west and south of Tikrit.

 

[docmauser1]

The reason for all the violence, is the illegal and immoral occupation and blockade. End those and you'll have peace. Don't end them, it's only a matter of time before the world community gets sick of this shit and ends them for you, just like it did in WWII.

Did our honorable billo really short-circuit his Grafik Phuturistik Interface again?

 

[Phoenall]

"
Noting that 9 July 2014 marked the tenth anniversary of the adoption of the advisory
opinion by the International Court of Justice on the legal consequences of the construction
of a wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory and that no progress has been made on its
implementation, and affirming the urgent need to respect and ensure respect for
international humanitarian law and international human rights law in this regard,.."

Hmmm: interesting that Egypt is creating a buffer zone in Rafah. Where is the outrage!

Cairo: Egypt has begun demolishing houses along its border with Gaza to set up a buffer zone to prevent alleged militant infiltration and arms smuggling following a wave of deadly attacks.

The move, which will result in about 800 homes being razed, comes after a suicide bomber killed 30 soldiers in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, which borders the Palestinian territory, last Friday.....................................................................................................

"The president is monitoring the area along the border ... especially the area that is being evacuated for eliminating terrorist hideouts and to prevent any infiltration of terrorists that will threaten national security," his office said.

Read more: Egypt starts demolishing homes to create Gaza buffer zone

UN Resolutions are where exactly??

Greg

Nothing has been said about the separation barrier built by the Saudis that steals 20 miles of Yemens fertile farm land. The same wall that is protected by US made military equipment provided by the US.

 

[docmauser1]

I love the smell of Hasbara in the morning. It smells like.....desperation.

Our honorable cnm's advised to use his comp before eating beans.

 

[docmauser1]

[cue yawn]

Unpleasant truth spoken, must deflect with yawn.

Drivel.

 

[docmauser1]

What? Intelligence specialist much?

Some countries don't steal passports to assist in their covert assassination attempts and some countries do. Israel is one of the countries that does. Normal people understand this.

Good.

 

[Phoenall]

What? Intelligence specialist much?

Some countries don't steal passports to assist in their covert assassination attempts and some countries do. Israel is one of the countries that does. Normal people understand this.

So who stole the passports from a living person then, and where were they stolen from costing the person money to renew their passports ?

 

[docmauser1]

Human Rights Watch accuses Israel of war crimes in Gaza

A talking watch?

 

[Kondor3]

...For gods' sakes, talk about objectivity and neutrality...

Oh, I make no pretense about objectivity and neutrality. I am solidly in Israel's corner and have openly declared thus on this forum on multiple occasions. It's just that I'm helping you to 'out' yourself as lacking objectivity and neutrality and being solidly in Palestine's corner - a simple matter of tactical Enemy Identification, mostly for the benefit of the handful of folks visiting the forum who had not yet bothered to look long enough to figure that out for themselves yet.

...You're the only one who has stated they're not neutral...

Incorrect, in the broader context of the audience here, and correct, in the context of our own sequence.

As already stated, I am simply performing a public service and going through the necessary motions of 'outing' you - the newcomer account - as also lacking in objectivity and neutrality - and interacting with you to an extent required to justifiably publicly label you as the Palestinian-Hamas propaganda shill and apologist and fifth-columnist that you are.

It's been increasingly obvious as your first few dozen posts have materialized, and it's also obvious that you are in all likelihood an old hand, here, now reappearing with a new account, and operating under the apparent delusion that you can mask your own bias and prejudice for some time.

It's a volunteer effort - this public labeling - a public service - gratis - no charge.

...You won't understand you've done that...

Of course I do, and have said so, immediately above, as prelude to the public labeling that I already mentioned.