What do liberals want the US to be?

You're so right. Bush and the GOP from 2000-2006 ruined the economy, lied us into wars, etc and look at how quickly and easily they put the GOP back into office in 2010 and 2014.

Oh, and it wasn't like they showed up TO VOTE for the GOP. They just didn't show up at all and that's how you won. Of course you like it that less people vote. But that makes you an intellectually dishonest idiot in my book to argue that it is good less people vote not more.

Oh Jesus... not this stupid shit again.

Do you want to pretend it didn't happen or wait for me to forget? This is why we'll get no where with fools like you who don't even know/remember what the **** happened to us once Bush got into office.

Remember he took Clinton's SURPLUS and squandered it. Him and his GOP party led by Tom Delay.

There's one huge problem here... Clinton did not leave Bush a surplus. And btw.... Obama has added more to the debt than all his predecessors.. combined.

And so did Bush. So did Clinton.

And yes he did leave him a projected surplus. If spending remained and if taxes coming in remained the same, Bush would have a surplus. But NOTHING stayed the same. Bush gave the rich tax breaks. Strike 1. Lied us into 2 wars. Strike 2. Let illegals flood in to compete with American workers for "jobs Americans won't do". Strike 3. Sent all the good paying union manufacturing jobs overseas. Strike 4. Deregulated the banks and mortgage companies who would no doubt use those deregulations to fuckin ruin the economy.

And it was all by design. The rich got everything they wanted. Its called Disaster Capitalism. Cause a crisis so we have to implement your policies you say will fix the crisis and when they don't work blame it on the other side.

1. Who would you give the breaks to if not the ones paying the taxes?
2. Nobody lied.... that BS has been debunked for a decade now.
3. Yeah, Bush invented this....
4. Better read up on the CRA bub... you people got what you wanted with SISA loans and all that stupid shit. Bush actually warned of an impending crisis and the DEM's laughed.

I've heard all these arguments/lies from the right in 2009. Piss off stupid.

I would give the tax breaks to the middle class and poor. Remember Bush wanted to not be in an official recession so he sent everyone $300? Why didn't he just give his rich friends the money? Because he knew they wouldn't go SPEND IT like the middle class and poor will. And this way even benefits the rich because if the poor and middle class are spending, the rich are making more money.

Our way works, your way does not. Sorry.

Stop crying about what's fair. Ask yourself what works.
 
I'm not the one advocating a return to the tax structure of JFK. It is conservatives holding him up as one of their own

JFK was a Libturd shitass in many ways and a terrible President but he got one thing right. He understood that the economy does better when the people get to keep more of the money they make rather than giving it to the corrupt and incompetent government.

Do you want me to repost his quote to the American people on that?
 
Damn....not a bad estimate on my part
Going rate for a heart transplant is $997,700

Transplant Living Financing A Transplant Costs

It's all about what you can get out of it

I don't follow you

Do you support the Government paying for transplants for those without insurance?

No

Let em die

A true Libertarian

Government is the only solution, a true authoritarian leftist.

So lets pay a visit to Libertarian America

Your next door neighbor works hard and supports a wife and two kids. However, he has a heart condition which prevents him from getting health insurance. His heart has deteriorated to the point where he now needs a heart transplant. A donor has been identified and a heart is available that will save his life. However, a heart transplant will cost $1 million.

Libertarian kaz says.......Let him die
 
Oh Jesus... not this stupid shit again.

Do you want to pretend it didn't happen or wait for me to forget? This is why we'll get no where with fools like you who don't even know/remember what the **** happened to us once Bush got into office.

Remember he took Clinton's SURPLUS and squandered it. Him and his GOP party led by Tom Delay.

There's one huge problem here... Clinton did not leave Bush a surplus. And btw.... Obama has added more to the debt than all his predecessors.. combined.

And so did Bush. So did Clinton.

And yes he did leave him a projected surplus. If spending remained and if taxes coming in remained the same, Bush would have a surplus. But NOTHING stayed the same. Bush gave the rich tax breaks. Strike 1. Lied us into 2 wars. Strike 2. Let illegals flood in to compete with American workers for "jobs Americans won't do". Strike 3. Sent all the good paying union manufacturing jobs overseas. Strike 4. Deregulated the banks and mortgage companies who would no doubt use those deregulations to fuckin ruin the economy.

And it was all by design. The rich got everything they wanted. Its called Disaster Capitalism. Cause a crisis so we have to implement your policies you say will fix the crisis and when they don't work blame it on the other side.

1. Who would you give the breaks to if not the ones paying the taxes?
2. Nobody lied.... that BS has been debunked for a decade now.
3. Yeah, Bush invented this....
4. Better read up on the CRA bub... you people got what you wanted with SISA loans and all that stupid shit. Bush actually warned of an impending crisis and the DEM's laughed.

I've heard all these arguments/lies from the right in 2009. Piss off stupid.

I would give the tax breaks to the middle class and poor. Remember Bush wanted to not be in an official recession so he sent everyone $300? Why didn't he just give his rich friends the money? Because he knew they wouldn't go SPEND IT like the middle class and poor will. And this way even benefits the rich because if the poor and middle class are spending, the rich are making more money.

Our way works, your way does not. Sorry.

Stop crying about what's fair. Ask yourself what works.

Yeah, what you guys are doing is working wonders... worst economy in thirty years, record unemployed, lowest workforce participation since Jimmy Carter...

Seriously how old are you? 15? You sound very immature and frankly, irrational. Do you smoke a lot of weed?
 
You're so right. Bush and the GOP from 2000-2006 ruined the economy, lied us into wars, etc and look at how quickly and easily they put the GOP back into office in 2010 and 2014.

Oh, and it wasn't like they showed up TO VOTE for the GOP. They just didn't show up at all and that's how you won. Of course you like it that less people vote. But that makes you an intellectually dishonest idiot in my book to argue that it is good less people vote not more.

Sorry but I am not a Republican so your little rant was wasted on me. The Republicans are too Liberal and at the end of the day are not that much different from the Democrats. Both parties promote big government and the welfare state.

However, just to comment on your post the economy was doing OK (relatively) under Bush until the 2006 Democrat Congress was elected and then it went to hell in a handbasket. Despite the trillion dollar hit from 911 the economy grew some and the annual debt was much lower than now,taxes were lower and real unemployment (not this made up shit by Obama) was better. Of course that all changed when those dumbass Democrats got elected. What the hell were the American thinking electing those bozos? They made a big enough mistake with the Republicans but made it worse with the Democrats.

Yea yea yea it as Freddy mack, fanny may, harry reid, Pelosi Obama Clinton/carter's fault.

I remember all these bad arguments back in 2010. Everyone was at fault except for Bush.

OR, as Right wingers always try to do, say that "everyone" has to take some of the blame". **** that. Us liberals were telling you for 6 years that the GOP were going to cause a recession. Increasingly high gas prices and healthcare costs, good jobs going overseas, corporations hiring illegals while Bush turned a blind eye, two costly wars while giving the rich tax breaks. No leader in world history ever gave tax breaks while starting two wars. Either the Iraq war was a war for profit started on purpose or Bush is the dumbest commander in world history. Not US history, WORLD.
 
If Clinton ran a "surplus" then why did the national debt go up every year he was in office?

I have a secret for you, Beav, politicians lie. Shocking, isn't it?

We all know that idiot. But based on the way every president is judged, Clinton had a surplus. Projected but it was a surplus.

If Bush or Reagan had those numbers, you'd call it a surplus and you would know what we mean but because it was Clinton who had a surplus, you want to nit pick.

What is true is Bush took that projected surplus and created a huge deficit.

Rick Snyder Gov of Michigan has the same kind of surplus Clinton had and he's bragging every day about this "surplus".[/QUOTE]

Yes, moron, the world is only Republicans and Democrats. I'm not a Democrat, therefore I must be a Republican. Tell me how you're smarter than Republicans because you're not all black and white like they are.

I do like how you said Clinton has a surplus, but you know he didn't, which makes you intelligent and me stupid for correctly saying he ran a deficit.

I don't know if I like that better or the part where because politicians always lie, we should believe their lie and rate them on that.
 
I'm not the one advocating a return to the tax structure of JFK. It is conservatives holding him up as one of their own

JFK was a Libturd shitass in many ways and a terrible President but he got one thing right. He understood that the economy does better when the people get to keep more of the money they make rather than giving it to the corrupt and incompetent government.

Do you want me to repost his quote to the American people on that?
Is that the post where he defends that a 70% tax rate on the rich is good for America?

By all means post it
 
this is a serious question, please only reply with serious comments.

what specifically do liberals want the US to become?
Tell us exactly what you want changed, and why.

We use to be the greatest country in the world. Upward mobility and good paying jobs. What got us there? High paying union jobs. It is no coincidence as union membership has declined, so have our wages. We have to be a more educated society. How many people voted in the last elections? Less than 40%? That's ridiculous. So I would like us to be a society of educated citizens who all realize that the best economy is/was a middle class first economy. The rich are always going to be rich. But what they have done, by us not voting, is turned our government into their government. They now rule/run our government. They changed the tax codes and laws and shifted the tax burden more onto us and they are making more than ever while our wages are stagnant for 30 years. I'd like to see the masses wake up and vote thus turning this country back over to We The People.

So more people voting so the country and our government goes back to working for all of us not just the rich and roll back all the bad tax breaks the conservatives have given the corporations and fix whatever is wrong with NAFTA. Tariffs sound good.

Oh, and Tesla's car went from over $100,000 to $70K now. It will go even lower. But Tesla will have to fight the Oil Lobbyists and the GOP. I would like the Coal Company GOP to stop fighting Global Warming.

And go after illegal employers. Stop trying to close the border. That's impossible and not the solution. They can just come on a visitors visa and stay. The USA has 2 sings on the border. Small one says stay out and big one says HELP WANTED. Illegal employers are never talked about.

More people voting won't change anything if they make as poor as choice as the ones that do vote make.

No real change will be made at the ballot box. There are too many greedy people that benefit from having this bloated government and too many people are simply confused about the role of government and don't understand the consequences.

This country is beyond the pint of being able to be fixed.

Nothing wrong with a government that provides services to the people for the taxes it takes in. It isn't greedy to want something from your government. That's the rich brainwashing you. Meanwhile, they want everything and you go along.

Yes, voting is the solution. We can only take back the country by voting or revolution. What is your solution? You want to revolt before even trying the vote?

Yes it does matter if 70% of the people vote instead of 39%. If you say it doesn't either you are a fool or liar.

I see, so it is not greedy to want stuff from your government funded by taxes paid by other people, but it is greedy to want to keep more of the money you make through your own labor and efforts?
 
Do you want to pretend it didn't happen or wait for me to forget? This is why we'll get no where with fools like you who don't even know/remember what the **** happened to us once Bush got into office.

Remember he took Clinton's SURPLUS and squandered it. Him and his GOP party led by Tom Delay.

There's one huge problem here... Clinton did not leave Bush a surplus. And btw.... Obama has added more to the debt than all his predecessors.. combined.

And so did Bush. So did Clinton.

And yes he did leave him a projected surplus. If spending remained and if taxes coming in remained the same, Bush would have a surplus. But NOTHING stayed the same. Bush gave the rich tax breaks. Strike 1. Lied us into 2 wars. Strike 2. Let illegals flood in to compete with American workers for "jobs Americans won't do". Strike 3. Sent all the good paying union manufacturing jobs overseas. Strike 4. Deregulated the banks and mortgage companies who would no doubt use those deregulations to fuckin ruin the economy.

And it was all by design. The rich got everything they wanted. Its called Disaster Capitalism. Cause a crisis so we have to implement your policies you say will fix the crisis and when they don't work blame it on the other side.

1. Who would you give the breaks to if not the ones paying the taxes?
2. Nobody lied.... that BS has been debunked for a decade now.
3. Yeah, Bush invented this....
4. Better read up on the CRA bub... you people got what you wanted with SISA loans and all that stupid shit. Bush actually warned of an impending crisis and the DEM's laughed.

I've heard all these arguments/lies from the right in 2009. Piss off stupid.

I would give the tax breaks to the middle class and poor. Remember Bush wanted to not be in an official recession so he sent everyone $300? Why didn't he just give his rich friends the money? Because he knew they wouldn't go SPEND IT like the middle class and poor will. And this way even benefits the rich because if the poor and middle class are spending, the rich are making more money.

Our way works, your way does not. Sorry.

Stop crying about what's fair. Ask yourself what works.

Yeah, what you guys are doing is working wonders... worst economy in thirty years, record unemployed, lowest workforce participation since Jimmy Carter...

Seriously how old are you? 15? You sound very immature and frankly, irrational. Do you smoke a lot of weed?

What do you mean? The economy is booming! Record profits. Forbes Magazine Obama best economic president of modern times
The only ones left behind are labor. What do the GOP plan on doing to raise workers wages? Not a god damn thing. And that is the only problem with our economy.
 
It's all about what you can get out of it

I don't follow you

Do you support the Government paying for transplants for those without insurance?

No

Let em die

A true Libertarian

Government is the only solution, a true authoritarian leftist.

So lets pay a visit to Libertarian America

Your next door neighbor works hard and supports a wife and two kids. However, he has a heart condition which prevents him from getting health insurance. His heart has deteriorated to the point where he now needs a heart transplant. A donor has been identified and a heart is available that will save his life. However, a heart transplant will cost $1 million.

Libertarian kaz says.......Let him die

Authoritarian leftist RW says it's not my money, spend it. Any politician who approves a $1M taxpayer funded medical procedure should be strung up.
 
There's one huge problem here... Clinton did not leave Bush a surplus. And btw.... Obama has added more to the debt than all his predecessors.. combined.

And so did Bush. So did Clinton.

And yes he did leave him a projected surplus. If spending remained and if taxes coming in remained the same, Bush would have a surplus. But NOTHING stayed the same. Bush gave the rich tax breaks. Strike 1. Lied us into 2 wars. Strike 2. Let illegals flood in to compete with American workers for "jobs Americans won't do". Strike 3. Sent all the good paying union manufacturing jobs overseas. Strike 4. Deregulated the banks and mortgage companies who would no doubt use those deregulations to fuckin ruin the economy.

And it was all by design. The rich got everything they wanted. Its called Disaster Capitalism. Cause a crisis so we have to implement your policies you say will fix the crisis and when they don't work blame it on the other side.

1. Who would you give the breaks to if not the ones paying the taxes?
2. Nobody lied.... that BS has been debunked for a decade now.
3. Yeah, Bush invented this....
4. Better read up on the CRA bub... you people got what you wanted with SISA loans and all that stupid shit. Bush actually warned of an impending crisis and the DEM's laughed.

I've heard all these arguments/lies from the right in 2009. Piss off stupid.

I would give the tax breaks to the middle class and poor. Remember Bush wanted to not be in an official recession so he sent everyone $300? Why didn't he just give his rich friends the money? Because he knew they wouldn't go SPEND IT like the middle class and poor will. And this way even benefits the rich because if the poor and middle class are spending, the rich are making more money.

Our way works, your way does not. Sorry.

Stop crying about what's fair. Ask yourself what works.

Yeah, what you guys are doing is working wonders... worst economy in thirty years, record unemployed, lowest workforce participation since Jimmy Carter...

Seriously how old are you? 15? You sound very immature and frankly, irrational. Do you smoke a lot of weed?

What do you mean? The economy is booming! Record profits. Forbes Magazine Obama best economic president of modern times
The only ones left behind are labor. What do the GOP plan on doing to raise workers wages? Not a god damn thing. And that is the only problem with our economy.

I think we should raise the minimum wage to $80/hr.. that'll fix everything. Micky D workers can then afford Jags.

lol
 
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I'm not the one advocating a return to the tax structure of JFK. It is conservatives holding him up as one of their own

JFK was a Libturd shitass in many ways and a terrible President but he got one thing right. He understood that the economy does better when the people get to keep more of the money they make rather than giving it to the corrupt and incompetent government.

Do you want me to repost his quote to the American people on that?
Is that the post where he defends that a 70% tax rate on the rich is good for America?

By all means post it

It's a tax on greed. Any money you make over $10 million you pay 70%. Boo ******* hoo. Don't want to pay it? MOve to Brazil or somewhere else but we warn you they'll have universal healthcare wherever you go.
 
I'm not the one advocating a return to the tax structure of JFK. It is conservatives holding him up as one of their own

JFK was a Libturd shitass in many ways and a terrible President but he got one thing right. He understood that the economy does better when the people get to keep more of the money they make rather than giving it to the corrupt and incompetent government.

Do you want me to repost his quote to the American people on that?
Is that the post where he defends that a 70% tax rate on the rich is good for America?

By all means post it

It's a tax on greed. Any money you make over $10 million you pay 70%. Boo ******* hoo. Don't want to pay it? MOve to Brazil or somewhere else but we warn you they'll have universal healthcare wherever you go.

Yeah, but why? You never answer that question.... can you? Or are you just a hyperemotional and envious ninny?
 
Nothing wrong with a government that provides services to the people for the taxes it takes in. It isn't greedy to want something from your government. That's the rich brainwashing you. Meanwhile, they want everything and you go along.

Yes, voting is the solution. We can only take back the country by voting or revolution. What is your solution? You want to revolt before even trying the vote?

Yes it does matter if 70% of the people vote instead of 39%. If you say it doesn't either you are a fool or liar.

It certainly is greed when you vote for shitheads that uses the force of government to steal money from other people to benefit you. That is the definition of greed. Tony Soprano would be proud of that scam.

If 70% of the people elect the same kind of people that get elected now and the country continues to have enormous debt, high taxation, limited economic growth, a welfare state, a lost of freedom, interventionism and corrupt government then they haven't accomplished any more that 39% that votes right now.

The American people are not smart enough or moral enough to have a working Republic.

When the citizen asked Ben Franklin "What kind of government have you given us?" and his reply was "A Republic if you can keep it" then he was commenting about the American people may not being smart or moral enough to have good government. He was right to have that concern as we are seeing now.

That's what governments do idiot! Social engineering. Do you think the American Middle class is because of unregulated free market capitalism? If you do you are wrong. It is because of a government that worked for We The People.

You are clearly brainwashed when you use words like steal from you. If the government taxes you, it is not theft. Oh, and the entire 8 years when Bush and the GOP were talking about lower taxes they weren't talking about for broke asses like you and me. They were talking about for their rich friends. In fact we see the GOP way is to shift more of the tax burden onto you. In other words the GOP are actually for raising your taxes to lower their rich friends taxes.

Liberals a long time ago set up a progressive tax scheme and the rich have been chipping away at it ever since. This is a fact. In fact, Bush's policies STOLE our 401K money and gave it to the rich. His wars were a gift to the defense contractors. He doubled the debt by giving his rich friends tax breaks while starting two wars and borrowing from China to pay for them. Chaney/Rumsfeld said Iraq oil would pay for the war. They lied. More than once. And here you remain brainwashed and stupid. OMG.

2 more things. 1. Only the rich voting GOP and middle class voting Democrat are smart. All the poor and middle class voting GOP are stupid and all the people not voting at all are stupid. But I'm ok with the stupid people voting GOP. As long as they vote.

So don't worry about them not being smart enough to vote. That doesn't stop you does it? And when they start voting, it changes EVERYTHING. Then both the Democrats and Republicans start caring what we think/say/vote. Right now they don't give a **** because they know you are stupid enough to not vote. They have won. Until you vote, they win.

What about the rich who vote Democrat? Stupid? According to you it is against their own interest to do so, which would make them stupid right?
 
And so did Bush. So did Clinton.

And yes he did leave him a projected surplus. If spending remained and if taxes coming in remained the same, Bush would have a surplus. But NOTHING stayed the same. Bush gave the rich tax breaks. Strike 1. Lied us into 2 wars. Strike 2. Let illegals flood in to compete with American workers for "jobs Americans won't do". Strike 3. Sent all the good paying union manufacturing jobs overseas. Strike 4. Deregulated the banks and mortgage companies who would no doubt use those deregulations to fuckin ruin the economy.

And it was all by design. The rich got everything they wanted. Its called Disaster Capitalism. Cause a crisis so we have to implement your policies you say will fix the crisis and when they don't work blame it on the other side.

1. Who would you give the breaks to if not the ones paying the taxes?
2. Nobody lied.... that BS has been debunked for a decade now.
3. Yeah, Bush invented this....
4. Better read up on the CRA bub... you people got what you wanted with SISA loans and all that stupid shit. Bush actually warned of an impending crisis and the DEM's laughed.

I've heard all these arguments/lies from the right in 2009. Piss off stupid.

I would give the tax breaks to the middle class and poor. Remember Bush wanted to not be in an official recession so he sent everyone $300? Why didn't he just give his rich friends the money? Because he knew they wouldn't go SPEND IT like the middle class and poor will. And this way even benefits the rich because if the poor and middle class are spending, the rich are making more money.

Our way works, your way does not. Sorry.

Stop crying about what's fair. Ask yourself what works.

Yeah, what you guys are doing is working wonders... worst economy in thirty years, record unemployed, lowest workforce participation since Jimmy Carter...

Seriously how old are you? 15? You sound very immature and frankly, irrational. Do you smoke a lot of weed?

What do you mean? The economy is booming! Record profits. Forbes Magazine Obama best economic president of modern times
The only ones left behind are labor. What do the GOP plan on doing to raise workers wages? Not a god damn thing. And that is the only problem with our economy.

I think we should raise the minimum wage to $80/hr.. that'll fix everything. Micky D workers can then afford Jags.

lol

Seems to me the Big 3 did just fine in 1999. They had record profits and all those high paid union workers were here in America. These Big 3 jobs created the middle class. Other companies were created because of all that money all those workers had in their pockets. THe GOP sent those jobs overseas and today all we have is McD jobs.

Oh, and back in the 90's I remember Taco Bell and McD's even paid $10 hr because jobs were plentiful. Not just jobs but GOOD PAYING jobs. Not today. Today even college grads aren't doing as well as those Big 3 Union workers did in the 90's. Insurance costs more, they don't make as much and they have no job security plus they graduate with huge debt. The American people are stupid!
 
I don't follow you

Do you support the Government paying for transplants for those without insurance?

No

Let em die

A true Libertarian

Government is the only solution, a true authoritarian leftist.

So lets pay a visit to Libertarian America

Your next door neighbor works hard and supports a wife and two kids. However, he has a heart condition which prevents him from getting health insurance. His heart has deteriorated to the point where he now needs a heart transplant. A donor has been identified and a heart is available that will save his life. However, a heart transplant will cost $1 million.

Libertarian kaz says.......Let him die

Authoritarian leftist RW says it's not my money, spend it. Any politician who approves a $1M taxpayer funded medical procedure should be strung up.

You prefer that the richest country in the world let their citizens die because they don't have insurance?

No wonder nobody in the world embraces libertarianism
 
Is that the post where he defends that a 70% tax rate on the rich is good for America?

By all means post it

It's a tax on greed. Any money you make over $10 million you pay 70%. Boo ******* hoo. Don't want to pay it? MOve to Brazil or somewhere else but we warn you they'll have universal healthcare wherever you go.

Someone earning $10 million is "greed." You taking 70% of it at the point of a gun isn't, got it. Your strategy isn't working well for France, that's what the wealthy are constantly doing and it's causing serious budget issues.

I do have one question. How do you arrive at that $10 million you want people to stop working and providing jobs What is it about that number? Just a round one?
 
15th post

Let em die

A true Libertarian

Government is the only solution, a true authoritarian leftist.

So lets pay a visit to Libertarian America

Your next door neighbor works hard and supports a wife and two kids. However, he has a heart condition which prevents him from getting health insurance. His heart has deteriorated to the point where he now needs a heart transplant. A donor has been identified and a heart is available that will save his life. However, a heart transplant will cost $1 million.

Libertarian kaz says.......Let him die

Authoritarian leftist RW says it's not my money, spend it. Any politician who approves a $1M taxpayer funded medical procedure should be strung up.

You prefer that the richest country in the world let their citizens die because they don't have insurance?

No wonder nobody in the world embraces libertarianism

Yes, comrade, and if someone doens't buy a house or food or a car or a TV government should give them that. We are the richest country in the world.

Libertarian was doing pretty well until the parasites populated to the point that you took over. That's why mob rule voting at the Federal level is so important to you.
 

Let em die

A true Libertarian

Government is the only solution, a true authoritarian leftist.

So lets pay a visit to Libertarian America

Your next door neighbor works hard and supports a wife and two kids. However, he has a heart condition which prevents him from getting health insurance. His heart has deteriorated to the point where he now needs a heart transplant. A donor has been identified and a heart is available that will save his life. However, a heart transplant will cost $1 million.

Libertarian kaz says.......Let him die

Authoritarian leftist RW says it's not my money, spend it. Any politician who approves a $1M taxpayer funded medical procedure should be strung up.

You prefer that the richest country in the world let their citizens die because they don't have insurance?

No wonder nobody in the world embraces libertarianism

No one was dying... another LW myth.
1. Who would you give the breaks to if not the ones paying the taxes?
2. Nobody lied.... that BS has been debunked for a decade now.
3. Yeah, Bush invented this....
4. Better read up on the CRA bub... you people got what you wanted with SISA loans and all that stupid shit. Bush actually warned of an impending crisis and the DEM's laughed.

I've heard all these arguments/lies from the right in 2009. Piss off stupid.

I would give the tax breaks to the middle class and poor. Remember Bush wanted to not be in an official recession so he sent everyone $300? Why didn't he just give his rich friends the money? Because he knew they wouldn't go SPEND IT like the middle class and poor will. And this way even benefits the rich because if the poor and middle class are spending, the rich are making more money.

Our way works, your way does not. Sorry.

Stop crying about what's fair. Ask yourself what works.

Yeah, what you guys are doing is working wonders... worst economy in thirty years, record unemployed, lowest workforce participation since Jimmy Carter...

Seriously how old are you? 15? You sound very immature and frankly, irrational. Do you smoke a lot of weed?

What do you mean? The economy is booming! Record profits. Forbes Magazine Obama best economic president of modern times
The only ones left behind are labor. What do the GOP plan on doing to raise workers wages? Not a god damn thing. And that is the only problem with our economy.

I think we should raise the minimum wage to $80/hr.. that'll fix everything. Micky D workers can then afford Jags.

lol

Seems to me the Big 3 did just fine in 1999. They had record profits and all those high paid union workers were here in America. These Big 3 jobs created the middle class. Other companies were created because of all that money all those workers had in their pockets. THe GOP sent those jobs overseas and today all we have is McD jobs.

Oh, and back in the 90's I remember Taco Bell and McD's even paid $10 hr because jobs were plentiful. Not just jobs but GOOD PAYING jobs. Not today. Today even college grads aren't doing as well as those Big 3 Union workers did in the 90's. Insurance costs more, they don't make as much and they have no job security plus they graduate with huge debt. The American people are stupid!

No, just some of the American people are stupid. If you are graduating with huge debt, then you screwed up.
 
I'm not the one advocating a return to the tax structure of JFK. It is conservatives holding him up as one of their own

JFK was a Libturd shitass in many ways and a terrible President but he got one thing right. He understood that the economy does better when the people get to keep more of the money they make rather than giving it to the corrupt and incompetent government.

Do you want me to repost his quote to the American people on that?
Is that the post where he defends that a 70% tax rate on the rich is good for America?

By all means post it

It's a tax on greed. Any money you make over $10 million you pay 70%. Boo ******* hoo. Don't want to pay it? MOve to Brazil or somewhere else but we warn you they'll have universal healthcare wherever you go.

Yeah, but why? You never answer that question.... can you? Or are you just a hyperemotional and envious ninny?

Because it works. Because it is the same tax scheme that we had in place before when they were trying to climb the ladder of success. What the rich since 2000 have done is change/rig the game in their favor. In essence they climbed the ladder then pulled it up on the rest of us after they made it to the top.

I can explain why but can you get it? Do you understand? If Bush's tax breaks didn't work for example, why continue them? Do you even remember when you first argued for them you said they would be temporary? So you please explain why ending them was unfair in your opinion.
 
Let em die

A true Libertarian

Government is the only solution, a true authoritarian leftist.

So lets pay a visit to Libertarian America

Your next door neighbor works hard and supports a wife and two kids. However, he has a heart condition which prevents him from getting health insurance. His heart has deteriorated to the point where he now needs a heart transplant. A donor has been identified and a heart is available that will save his life. However, a heart transplant will cost $1 million.

Libertarian kaz says.......Let him die

Authoritarian leftist RW says it's not my money, spend it. Any politician who approves a $1M taxpayer funded medical procedure should be strung up.

You prefer that the richest country in the world let their citizens die because they don't have insurance?

No wonder nobody in the world embraces libertarianism

Yes, comrade, and if someone doens't buy a house or food or a car or a TV government should give them that. We are the richest country in the world.

Libertarian was doing pretty well until the parasites populated to the point that you took over. That's why mob rule voting at the Federal level is so important to you.

More insight into the Libertarian paradise of kaz

He will refuse a million dollar transplant for his next door neighbor but has no problem spending a million dollars on a cruise missile
 
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