Zone1 What do Dems mean by their promises of “affordability”?

[Lisa558]

Why should poor people have nice cars, houses, and iPhones?

Poor means you organically don’t have those things. You’re tapping into the poor entitlement in our country, the ones that are so angry at and envious of the rich. Having some rich people in society is good for society

Joe thinks that poor people should be GIVEN all the nice things that responsible people EARN for themselves.

 

[Woodznutz]

So they get roommates and share a modest apartment. It’s what all my friends did after they graduated from college.

I shared rent with others right up until I got married at 32. Saved a bundle. Even back in the '60's rent was unaffordable for one person.

 

[Woodznutz]

You fail in your answer

What do Republicans offer poor people?

A good example.

 

[Lisa558]

I shared rent with others right up until I got married at 32. Saved a bundle. Even back in the '60's rent was unaffordable for one person.

That’s what everyone did! Either share a 2-bedroom apartment, a 3-bedroom townhouse, or, if money was especially limited, rent a room in someone’s house.

It’s only recently that leftists think everyone - including kids with a high school diploma and no real job skills - needs to be paid enough to afford a one-bedroom apt on their own.

 

[task0778]

What do Dems mean by their promises of “affordability”?​

It's another way saying vote for us cuz we'll do better than Trump on the economy. Whatever you want now but can't afford, we'll make it affordable for you. Which flies in the face of recent history under Obama and Biden but never mind, Trump is a bad person.

 

[sartre play]

A good hint might be the actions the new Democrat Governor of VA has made just a few days into her role, following her promises of making things more “affordable” for Virginians.

Among others, she (and the new Democrat legislature, so they’ll go through) are to;

1) Add in a 4.8% tax on investment income

2) Rejoin some green initiative, which will increase electric bills an average of $1100 a year per family

3) Add a tax for deliveries by Amazon, UPS, FedEx, Uber, etc.

4) Reverse Youngkin’s direction for local police to work with ICE, and turn VA into a sanctuary state, thereby placing more of a tax burden of Virginia earner,

So…my sense of what Dems mean by “affordable” is to raise money on the backs of the middle class in order to keep up welfare programs for people who can’t or refuse to support themselves.

Democrats Pounce On Virginia Taxpayers - Americans for Tax Reform

Under unified Democrat control, Virginia is poised to become a tax-hiking outlier in a region full of states that are phasing out their income taxes.

atr.org

Who knows? Smart thing, do not believe Any thing that comes out of a politicians mouth!

 

[initforme]

Only 40% have jobs? That means the majority of welfare people do not.

And they don’t need a car. They can take the bus and the train like I did for many years.

You worked for a rotten employer. Sorry about that. We need to shut those employers down.

 

[Lisa558]

You worked for a rotten employer. Sorry about that. We need to shut those employers down.

Taking public transportation to a downtown job means my employer was rotten?!

 

[JoeB131]

It's not a conspiracy, we are seeing many examples of fraud, and continuing your own job is human nature.

ACA subsidies are actually a different argument, showing the worthlessness of the ACA.

ACA is doing exactly what it is intended to do.

What is failing is employer-provided health insurance.

 

[JoeB131]

I see you couldn’t address your hypocrisy, so you revert to the lib tactic: an attempt at an insult.

The point stands: you tell the responsible worker to “get a better job” while fighting to keep welfare leeches from having to get a job at all.

Except 40% of families on assistance do have jobs.

What the welfare state does is subsidize the low-income workforces of McDonald's and WalMart, because they refuse to pay a living wage.

The reality is we spend far more on Middle Class Entitlements- WHITE PEOPLE WELFARE - than we do on poverty relief.

 

[JoeB131]

Why should poor people have nice cars, houses, and iPhones?

Why shouldn't they?

Poor means you organically don’t have those things. You’re tapping into the poor entitlement in our country, the ones that are so angry at and envious of the rich. Having some rich people in society is good for society

The rich are scumwads...

You see, we used to have it right in this country. The workforce was unionized, the rich paid their fair share, and things were pretty good.

Then they started playing on middle class racism, sexism, and religious bigotry to get them to vote against their own economic interests.

 

[Pastelli]

If you define freedom as "the ability of rich people to **** over poor people", then that's really not freedom or anything like it.

I don't go to bed at night saying, "I hope Jeff Bezos can afford a new yacht."

I'm not sure why you do.


Hold on now, Lisa is insisting that these poor people are buying prime rib while she buys ground beef.

So which is it? You wingnuts need to get your story straight.

You JOEB131 define "freedom" by massacring , raping and using its population as shields https://archive.ph/4pagT to make sure they die.

 

[JoeB131]

You JOEB131 define "freedom" by massacring , raping and using its population as shields https://archive.ph/4pagT to make sure they die.

Guy, I'd rather spend money feeding poor Americans than subsidizing the Zionist War Machine.

 

[Blisterfinger]

Lisa lives in mortal fear that poor people might have nice things.

You want to make everyone poor

 

[Lockback]

Why shouldn't they?

The rich are scumwads...

You see, we used to have it right in this country. The workforce was unionized, the rich paid their fair share, and things were pretty good.

Then they started playing on middle class racism, sexism, and religious bigotry to get them to vote against their own economic interests.

You are literally the living embodiment of the Communist Useful Idiot .
I'm not sure anyone here could pack in more Far Leftist cliches, lies and outright bullshit.
Congrats! You win the prize!

 

[Pastelli]

.. money ... Zionist War Machine.

Omg infamous bigot (about "money" classic tropes) joeb131 said "zionists". Simply checkmate .

Mideastbackgrounder

 

[JoeB131]

You are literally the living embodiment of the Communist Useful Idiot .
I'm not sure anyone here could pack in more Far Leftist cliches, lies and outright bullshit.
Congrats! You win the prize!

Yawn, the only useful idiots are the ones who keep letting the rich screw them and say, "Thank you, sir, may I have another."

I know, you blame the Chinese for not having a job, right?

 

[JoeB131]

Omg infamous bigot (about "money" classic tropes) joeb131 said "zionists". Simply checkmate .

Mideastbackgrounder

Hey, the last thing you guys want is Americans asking, "Why are we spending hundreds of billions propping up Israel?"

A lot poorer investment than taking care of poor people.

 

[Lisa558]

Hey, the last thing you guys want is Americans asking, "Why are we spending hundreds of billions propping up Israel?"

A lot poorer investment than taking care of poor people.

1) It’s not hundreds of billions. It’s about $3 or $4 billion a year. We spend more on the Arab countries, but no…..you focus on Da Joos.

2) This topic is about the lying Dems promising “affordability,” and then raising taxes in the working class. instituting delivery fees, and increasing the cost of gas. Yet somehow, you pivot to Da Joos, Da Joos!

You disgusting antisemite.

 

[Lisa558]

Announcement to JoeB131:

The topic is how Dems in Virginia, within days of taking office, and despite their promise of making things more affordable, immediately instituted new fees and raised taxes on the working and middle class.

One more dig against the Jews or Israel will get you reported for off-topic content that derails the discussion and tries to incite the Jews on the thread.