What did Trump offer Ukraine?

Great point. Zelensky is dead without America inside his country. Russia already has a plan to kill Zelensky.

Trump knows he can wait and make the deal with Zelensky's successor
Yes. Kievan People Republic, young and without Ukraina's debts, truly democratic country, with equal rights for all its citizens, without taxation (for three years) and with cheap Russian energy, might become great place for investment (for Russia-friendly countries, of course).
 
NATO guarantee of security. Suddenly a false flag and NATO is fighting Russia.

Captured land applies to both.

Precious metals industries from US investment....... nothing in return?

Think paid for that up front.

Do you mean like the Iraq War when W lied about "weapons of mass destruction"???

The USA is the ONLY NATO country to ever invoke Article 5.

How much blood and treasure did the rest of the NATO spend on your wars in Iraq and Afghanistan????? Did any NATO country ask the USA for "reimbursement" for the tax money WE spent on YOUR useless war??????
 
Do you mean like the Iraq War when W lied about "weapons of mass destruction"???

The USA is the ONLY NATO country to ever invoke Article 5.

How much blood and treasure did the rest of the NATO spend on your wars in Iraq and Afghanistan????? Did any NATO country ask the USA for "reimbursement" for the tax money WE spent on YOUR useless war??????
NATO didnt fight in Iraq you twit.

As far as Afghanistan goes other than the Brits the other NATO countries had a minimal show of force there.

That said I think bailing Europe out of 2 WW's and financing their security for 70+ years more than balances the ledger.
 
NATO didnt fight in Iraq you twit.

As far as Afghanistan goes other than the Brits the other NATO countries had a minimal show of force there.

That said I think bailing Europe out of 2 WW's and financing their security for 70+ years more than balances the ledger.

Nah, only poor businessmen think so.

Europe will stick it to us now that Trump acted obviously as Putin's henchman.
 
Don’t talk to me about skills or intelligence when you can’t answer simple questions and when you spew the kind of nonsense you’ve been spewing about being responsible for wars…. What a joke
I did answer the question. You don't like the answer so you play stupid, as if it was never answered.

Either way, no matter what you believe, Trump offered peace to Zelinaky under our terms. Zelensky refused. We are brokering peace because we are at war.
 
I did answer the question. You don't like the answer so you play stupid, as if it was never answered.
You answered it for somebody else. Not for yourself. That’s a dodge, not an answer.
 
Either way, no matter what you believe, Trump offered peace to Zelinaky under our terms. Zelensky refused. We are brokering peace because we are at war.
Trump doesn’t have peace to offer. Z could surrender whenever he wants and get peace. He doesn’t need Trump for that. He is defending this country from an invasion.
 
Trump doesn’t have peace to offer. Z could surrender whenever he wants and get peace. He doesn’t need Trump for that. He is defending this country from an invasion.
Zelensky and the ruch are at the ski resort in the Ukraine trying to figure out how to get away with the purchase of two Russian nuclear reactors and the arw building 2 other reactors from Europe. Already under construction
 

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