What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[rightwinger]

Oh my, how dramatic. How do you think "history" will view the Democratic Party their media and their followers in blowing up every American tradition and construct just to stay in power?

Examples?

 

[MarathonMike]

Examples?

Blowing up our border, enabling the trafficking of tens of thousands of unaccompanied children, making a mockery out of Constitutional Impeachment, the clusterfuck Afghanistan withdrawal that signaled Putin to start the Ukraine War, weaponizing the FBI into a Democrat hit squad.....I could list about 20 more but that should be sufficient.

 

[rightwinger]

Blowing up our border, enabling the trafficking of tens of thousands of unaccompanied children, making a mockery out of Constitutional Impeachment, the clusterfuck Afghanistan withdrawal that signaled Putin to start the Ukraine War, weaponizing the FBI into a Democrat hit squad.....I could list about 20 more but that should be sufficient.

Our border is still there
Nobody allowed children to be trafficked

Trumps own actions led to impeachment and most Congress members supported it

Trump made the agreement with Taliban not Buden

Trump called Putin a genius for invading

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Little Taco Donnie is a growing welter of uncertainty.

 

[MarathonMike]

Our border is still there
Nobody allowed children to be trafficked

Trumps own actions led to impeachment and most Congress members supported it

Trump made the agreement with Taliban not Buden

Trump called Putin a genius for invading

Dumb and inaccurate BS. You should be ashamed if you are an American.

 

[PeterPilot]

Federalist #10

Deuteronomy 7

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Selective Protectionism And Planned Economy Versus Laissez Faire Globalism Without National Allegiance "

* Us Neomercantilism In A Modern Age *

If you voted for Trump there’s a good chance you’re a lot like me with regard to why....I voted for him on two policies almost exclusively...First and foremost on how he would deal with illegal Mexicans and the border and second on how he would yank lowlifes off the Democrat induced welfare plantation.
Anyhoo, as we approach the point where welfare reform will be visited I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?

Attention all Smartest Guys In The Room, and legal scholars:
Please spare us the case citations such as the U.S. vs Butler case and the like. I’m interested in YOUR opinions.

To promote a general welfare is consistent with establishing independence of the individual citizen , which is related with American School (economics) - Wikipedia from alexander hamilton whose picture is on us $10 bill .

. Globalism Of Neoclassical Economics Versus Nationalism Of American School Of Economics .

. CDZ - Why Have Socialists Not Privatized The Socialist Ideals ? .

. Public Private Trust .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Notation "

* Preamble Allusions *

If you voted for Trump there’s a good chance you’re a lot like me with regard to why....I voted for him on two policies almost exclusively...First and foremost on how he would deal with illegal Mexicans and the border and second on how he would yank lowlifes off the Democrat induced welfare plantation.
Anyhoo, as we approach the point where welfare reform will be visited I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?

Attention all Smartest Guys In The Room, and legal scholars:
Please spare us the case citations such as the U.S. vs Butler case and the like. I’m interested in YOUR opinions.

https://pclt.defense.gov/DIRECTORATES/IOD/Library/Constitution/

Section 8. The Congress shall have Power

To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the Credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square), as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[BrokeLoser]

" Selective Protectionism And Planned Economy Versus Laissez Faire Globalism Without National Allegiance "

* Us Neomercantilism In A Modern Age *

To promote a general welfare is consistent with establishing independence of the individual citizen , which is related with American School (economics) - Wikipedia from alexander hamilton whose picture is on us $10 bill .

. Globalism Of Neoclassical Economics Versus Nationalism Of American School Of Economics .

. CDZ - Why Have Socialists Not Privatized The Socialist Ideals ? .

. Public Private Trust .

You’re totally lost beggar…look up the definition of PROMOTE and GENERAL.
Think GENERAL public

 

[RetiredGySgt]

He copied the delegated powers of congress no where is there a power to do half the shit the government does.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes, TACO has co-opted Congressional power.

Dictator Don is on the loose.

 

[rightwinger]

You’re totally lost beggar…look up the definition of PROMOTE and GENERAL.
Think GENERAL public

Constitution says provide and promote

General welfare means do what needs doing for We the People

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Request Spell Out Alternative Perceptions Other Wise "

* Allusions Two Nebulous References *

You’re totally lost beggar…look up the definition of PROMOTE and GENERAL.
Think GENERAL public

U.S. Constitution - The Preamble | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of The Preamble of the Constitution of the United States.

constitution.congress.gov

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Could a general public be related as obligations similar with generals for a well being of its soldiers , some of who will be allowed to perish ?

Should congress maintain an agenda , as a role of civil servants , that includes a responsibility to a goal for an american school of economics , which is a style of neomercantilism ?

Would a national agenda for neomercantilism to establish independence of individual us citizens , also be a corollary to promoting the general welfare , when it is also consistent with securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity , ?

Think academia and informed consent through explicit example , perhaps by providing references for adequate citation .

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

" Request Spell Out Alternative Perceptions Other Wise "

* Allusions Two Nebulous References *

U.S. Constitution - The Preamble | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of The Preamble of the Constitution of the United States.

constitution.congress.gov

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Could a general public be related as obligations similar with generals for a well being of its soldiers , some of who will be allowed to perish ?

Should congress maintain an agenda , as a role of civil servants , that includes a responsibility to a goal for an american school of economics , which is a style of neomercantilism ?

Would a national agenda for neomercantilism to establish independence of individual us citizens , also be a corollary to promoting the general welfare , when it is also consistent with securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity , ?

Think academia and informed consent through explicit example , perhaps by providing references for adequate citation .

An informed population and academia have always rejected your path.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Constitution says provide and promote

General welfare means do what needs doing for We the People

wrong the constitution only grants specific powers to congress they are listed in the document.

 

[rightwinger]

wrong the constitution only grants specific powers to congress they are listed in the document.

Nobody but libertarian nut jobs believes that.

Why don’t you take specific powers to court and see what happens?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Nobody but libertarian nut jobs believes that.

Why don’t you take specific powers to court and see what happens?

you prove you are a retard when you can't read english.

 

[rightwinger]

you prove you are a retard when you can't read english.

If you believe Congress or the President has exceeded their Constitutional powers

Why don’t you take it to court?

I am sure a bunch of other nut jobs will support you

 

[RetiredGySgt]

If you believe Congress or the President has exceeded their Constitutional powers

Why don’t you take it to court?

I am sure a bunch of other nut jobs will support you

You can't read obviously as you keep claiming what the Constitution says doesn't apply.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

wrong the constitution only grants specific powers to congress they are listed in the document.

99% of Americans do not buy your libertarianism or nihilism or whatever you call yourself these days.