Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[hobelim]

Yes, Jesus was 100% human and 100% God. The God/Man.

Sounds awesome! How can I join the club? How much money does it cost? Or do I just have to throw my brain in the garbage before entering a church? Will I confuse being oblivious with a state of grace for the rest of my life?

Sounds like a dream! Ignorance is bliss and all that jazz. Lots of chanting, mood lighting, candles, incense, and kneeling to put me into a hypnotic state, an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a very deep sleep!

A priest says abracadabra, presto mundo, alakazam! And poof! The congregation becomes easily fleeced sheep.

Just show me where to sign up! Who wouldn't love a God that became a diaper wearing baby boy on Christmas just to abolish his eternal Law, say things no one understood, perform magic tricks, only to be ridiculed rejected tortured and crucified so "believers" can sin with impunity for life because he loved the Roman world so much?

The devil?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Was Jesus 100% human? Whelp, not a God then. Did Lazarus come back from the dead? Yes?

Whelp, he was not a God either.

Lol. You decide He is not a God, and in the same sentence you point to one of His miracles. Can you raise people from the dead? Jesus could. Can you repair twisted bones, cure the sick, make the blind man see again? Jesus did.
Jesus is 100% human and 100% God. You should get to know Him.

 

[hobelim]

Lol. You decide He is not a God, and in the same sentence you point to one of His miracles.

The prophets performed miracles too. Were they God? NO. smarten up.

Can you raise people from the dead? Jesus could. Can you repair twisted bones, cure the sick, make the blind man see again?

Yes. it wasn't too long ago that a dear friend died from the poison of a serpent and was possessed by trumpism. I showed them how he was a liar, a low life scumbag, which wasn't hard because he lies all the time and how his sinister appeal to the fear of communism made them susceptible to the deception that he was going to save American democracy from communism (with fascism). After these few words they came back to life! A miracle!

Another time a person thought that there was no God. I removed the stigmatism that caused his blindness and now he can see. A miracle! Then again, another time, I straightened out a person whose bones were twisted like a pretzel. Then he stood upright and walked like a man that reflects the image and likeness of a Holy (separate) God. A miracle! Another time I saw a person so paralyzed they refused to hear a word of truth. I touched their ear and they were healed. Then I saw a herd of lame creatures. I said a few words and now they are jumping around. Jesus said believers would do what he was doing and here I am doing it and I am not God. Neither was Jesus.

What have you done? Cried on your knees to a cracker in church? Awesome. I'm sure Jesus is very impressed.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Just show me where to sign

Sounds awesome! How can I join the club

You get down on your knees and ask for forgiveness for leading people away from Christ...

 

[hobelim]

You get down on your knees and ask for forgiveness for leading people away from Christ...

I don't know why YOU think I should get down on my knees for any reason. Jesus told people to stand upright. Jesus never said get down on your knees and beg forgiveness before me. Thats sounds exactly like the devil.

It is my God alone who you must worship.

I have no need to be forgiven for anything. I always do exactly as God commands, even alerting nitwits like you to the irrefutable fact that what you do at mass is not the way to eternal life after you die. It is the way to death and descent into hell before your body dies so you can be a marionette for the perverse. Possessed by whatever devil told you that the way to eternal life is by doing the exact thing that my God clearly warns results in death, a curse, the loss of your soul, your individual conscious mind which explains your pathetic vapid view of the world.

 

[The Irish Ram]

I don't know why YOU think I should get down on my knees for any reason. Jesus told people to stand upright. Jesus never said get down on your knees and beg forgiveness before me. Thats sounds exactly like the devil.

It is my God alone who you must worship.

I have no need to be forgiven for anything.

Does your God have a Son named Jesus?

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Philippians 2:10-11"that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father".

Isaiah 45:23: "By myself I have sworn... To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance"...

I can guarantee Hob, your knees will bow. They are smarted than you.

 

[toobfreak]

Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?​

A silly argument really.

• The Book of Genesis was written by an unknown author about 1600 BC best we can estimate.
• The book implies an origin of man from 6000 years ago (4000 years by the time of Christ).
• Homo Sapiens obviously must have appeared long before that; mankind did not just "appear" on Earth.
• The "six days" are non-descript and it is silly to confuse them with days and nights of the Earth, especially when the Earth would not have even existed then.
• As such, while the rest of the Bible is largely allegorical and historical of actual events, Genesis was a mere attemp best as possible for people of the time, to give a footing to the Bible as setting for how the world came about before describing events herein.

 

[hobelim]

Does your God have a Son named Jesus?

Yes, "Son of God" being a relational metaphor. I am the avenger of blood, the blood of Jesus. Next of kin, cut from the same loaf. If you don't know what the avenger of blood means according to the Bible . Look it up.

Jesus said, "Forgive them for they know not what they do." I think jokers like you know exactly what you're doing

 

[The Irish Ram]

I am the avenger of blood

Proverbs 20:22
Do not say, “I will avenge this evil!”

1 Thessalonians 4:6
and no one should ever violate or exploit his brother in this regard, because the Lord will avenge all such acts, as we have already told you and solemnly warned you.

Leviticus 19:18
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

 

[flack]

Fayette Co WV

 

[The Irish Ram]

Yes. it wasn't too long ago that a dear friend died from the poison of a serpent and was possessed by trumpism

 

[hobelim]

Proverbs 20:22
Do not say, “I will avenge this evil!”

1 Thessalonians 4:6
and no one should ever violate or exploit his brother in this regard, because the Lord will avenge all such acts, as we have already told you and solemnly warned you.

Leviticus 19:18
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

In the Bible, the avenger of blood is a person legally responsible for carrying out vengeance when a family member has been unlawfully killed or murdered. The avenger of blood is usually the nearest male relative of the murdered person. This person seeks justice by killing the individual responsible for the death of his relative.

Mosaic Law allowed vengeance killings carried out by an avenger of blood: “The avenger of blood shall put the murderer to death; when the avenger comes upon the murderer, the avenger shall put the murderer to death” (Numbers 35:19; see also 26–27 and Deuteronomy 19:11–12). If a family member was murdered, it became the duty of the avenger of blood to restore justice to the family and the land by pursuing and ultimately carrying out the death penalty on the person responsible.

Don't get your panties twisted and freak out. The scarlet beast, drunk on the blood of Gods people and all the faithful who maintain allegiance to Jesus Christ, will be summarily put to death, made to die in complete anguish.


A new day is dawning. I am creating a new heaven and a new earth. Hell must give up the dead in its keeping.

Be happy!

 

[The Irish Ram]

hob honey, we are under a new covenant. A better covenant.
Moses said, "Here are the rules. You can kill".
Jesus said, "Pray for your enemies".

Luke 6:27-29
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you

 

[hobelim]

hob honey, we are under a new covenant. A better covenant.
Moses said, "Here are the rules. You can kill".
Jesus said, "Pray for your enemies".

I don't have any enemies. I am not against anyone. I am for the truth. There is only the living and the dead.

The living have no quarrel with me and the dead know nothing, not even that they're dead. I have made the difference between good and evil, life and death, clear. Anyone who has a problem with that is their own enemy.

 

[Quantrill]

If you had faith in Jesus you wouldn't be worshipping a trinity which is a clear violation of the first command. You wouldn't be caught dead in a church that defies the first commandment and desecrates the teaching of Jesus.

You phony ****.

Seriously. Who do you think you're fooling?

Not according to the Bible.

As I said, faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to eternal life. And it is not in defiance of the 1st commandment.

I'm not trying to fool anyone. I have said up front that I believe in the God of the Bible, in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.

You on the other hand, try to posture yourself as some sort of follower of a god and a jesus that is foreign to the Bible. It is you who are the phony, as I have stated before.

What is the name of your phony god? Where did you learn of him...in your dreams? How can others learn of this phony god of yours? As if any would want to. What does your god offer? Salvation? How?

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

You are a murderer in the same exact way that Jesus meant by saying that "Satan was a murderer from the beginning" which is why God said what he said in Gen 3:14. Obviously you don't believe the consequences for misleading others into defying the first command. You have been deceived or you are a deceiver. Either way to perpetuate lies now is to make sinfulness and all its known and unknown consequences a deliberate choice.

If I had not come and spoken with you you would not be guilty of sin. Now there is no longer any excuse for sins.

No need to thank me. I have only done my duty.

Faith in Jesus Christ does not defy the 1st commandment. Only in your perverted mind.

I believe (Gen. 3:14) as I said.

Nice speech...but means nothing.

I was guilty of sin long before your rambling. What an idiotic statement you make.

I am sure you have done your duty to your god. But, your god is not my God. So, your duty means nothing to me.

Quantrill

 

[Woodznutz]

In Hebrew, adam means tribe of society. We are to read the Bible as if it is talking directly to our individual and collective mind. This is clear when we read the Bible that says created we man and woman and called them adam. This is better than the rib woman stupidity that they used to show that the source of evil was Satan. Yahweh's female side.

Lucifer was God "female side". Lucifer/Satan became a 'pain' in God's side after the divorce.

 

[Quantrill]

Sounds awesome! How can I join the club? How much money does it cost? Or do I just have to throw my brain in the garbage before entering a church? Will I confuse being oblivious with a state of grace for the rest of my life?

Sounds like a dream! Ignorance is bliss and all that jazz. Lots of chanting, mood lighting, candles, incense, and kneeling to put me into a hypnotic state, an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a very deep sleep!

A priest says abracadabra, presto mundo, alakazam! And poof! The congregation becomes easily fleeced sheep.

Just show me where to sign up! Who wouldn't love a God that became a diaper wearing baby boy on Christmas just to abolish his eternal Law, say things no one understood, perform magic tricks, only to be ridiculed rejected tortured and crucified so "believers" can sin with impunity for life because he loved the Roman world so much?

The devil?

You can't join. You're not of God. Your brain is already in the garbage.

You can't sign up. That is the great work that God has done with salvation. You can't imitate it. You can't falsify it.

What kind of salvation does your puny god offer...if he offers any? How is it obtained? How did you 'sign up'?

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

Not according to the Bible.

As I said, faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to eternal life. And it is not in defiance of the 1st commandment.

Jesus taught and demonstrated the only right way to comply with the figurative words and hidden subjects of the Laws demands that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life here and now on earth.

Worshiping an imaginary trinity that does not exist is a brazen violation of the first commandment, an open demonstration of pure hatred for the Hebrew God, no matter how you try to rationalize it, no matter what you profess to believe in your defiled and contaminated mind. You openly seek spiritual life on your knees from a lifeless piece of bread MADE BY HUMAN HANDS, baked on human dung. Who do you think you are fooling?

 

[hobelim]

I was guilty of sin long before your rambling.

No kidding. And yet you continue to openly and brazenly sin, the penalty is death, while claiming to be saved.

You really need to work on your con before you take that act on the road.

Derp.