We're losing soil organic matter.

[Woodznutz]

There is nothing on earth more important than healthy soils for growing our food, however, thanks to the brainiacs that run our agricultural systems we are depleting our soils of needed organic matter. This despite obvious ways to increase it.

Low Organic Matter :: Soil Health

soilhealth.ucdavis.edu

 

[Sunsettommy]

There is nothing on earth more important than healthy soils for growing our food, however, thanks to the brainiacs that run our agricultural systems we are depleting our soils of needed organic matter. This despite obvious ways to increase it.

Low Organic Matter :: Soil Health

soilhealth.ucdavis.edu

A nice informative link you have but where is the story of this alleged soil depletion claim taking place?

 

[Woodznutz]

A nice informative link you have but where is the story of this alleged soil depletion claim taking place?

Without addressing other causes of soil organic matter depletion, I believe that it mostly takes place on large acreages where cereal grains are grown year after year with no rotation of soil building crops.

 

[elektra]

Yes, a direct result of wind and solar power disrupting and literally destroung the ground.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Without addressing other causes of soil organic matter depletion, I believe that it mostly takes place on large acreages where cereal grains are grown year after year with no rotation of soil building crops.

Actually that isn't true they do fallow land because the wheat is a known soil depleter and dryland wheat growing is fallowed every other year to allow soil moisture recovery.

When will you answer my question:

where is the story of this alleged soil depletion claim taking place?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There is nothing on earth more important than healthy soils for growing our food, however, thanks to the brainiacs that run our agricultural systems we are depleting our soils of needed organic matter. This despite obvious ways to increase it.

Low Organic Matter :: Soil Health

soilhealth.ucdavis.edu

And THIS is why carnivores also need to supplement B-12. The vitamin comes from BACTERIA in the soil, not animal flesh

 

[Woodznutz]

Actually that isn't true they do fallow land because the wheat is a known soil depleter and dryland wheat growing is fallowed every other year to allow soil moisture recovery.

When will you answer my question:

Your question is a rhetorical comment, meaning you don't believe it.

The regions experiencing significant soil depletion include:​

• Sub-Saharan Africa: This region is particularly affected by drought and erosion, leading to food insecurity and famine.
  
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• North America: The U.S. is predicted to see 95% of its soil degraded in less than 30 years due to intensive farming practices.
  
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• Southeast Asia: This region is also facing soil degradation, with over 40% of soils degraded, primarily due to farming practices.
  
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• Europe: The European Union is facing challenges with soil degradation, particularly in the Mediterranean region.
  
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• Asia: Soil degradation is a significant issue in Asia, with various forms of degradation affecting agricultural productivity and ecosystem health.
  
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  These regions highlight the global nature of soil depletion and the need for sustainable practices to mitigate its impact.

Map shows how much U.S. land may be degraded by 2050

Save Soil movement predicts massive damage to fields all over the glove over the next 30 years.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Woodznutz]

And THIS is why carnivores also need to supplement B-12. The vitamin comes from BACTERIA in the soil, not animal flesh

Animal flesh tastes better than bacteria.

I get most of my B-12 from milk.

 

[Old Rocks]

Your question is a rhetorical comment, meaning you don't believe it.

The regions experiencing significant soil depletion include:​

• Sub-Saharan Africa: This region is particularly affected by drought and erosion, leading to food insecurity and famine.
  
  1
• North America: The U.S. is predicted to see 95% of its soil degraded in less than 30 years due to intensive farming practices.
  
  1
• Southeast Asia: This region is also facing soil degradation, with over 40% of soils degraded, primarily due to farming practices.
  
  1
• Europe: The European Union is facing challenges with soil degradation, particularly in the Mediterranean region.
  
  1
• Asia: Soil degradation is a significant issue in Asia, with various forms of degradation affecting agricultural productivity and ecosystem health.
  
  1
  These regions highlight the global nature of soil depletion and the need for sustainable practices to mitigate its impact.

Map shows how much U.S. land may be degraded by 2050

Save Soil movement predicts massive damage to fields all over the glove over the next 30 years.

www.newsweek.com

And increased temperatures do not help;

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0929139325003774

 

[Old Rocks]

Your question is a rhetorical comment, meaning you don't believe it.

The regions experiencing significant soil depletion include:​

• Sub-Saharan Africa: This region is particularly affected by drought and erosion, leading to food insecurity and famine.
  
  1
• North America: The U.S. is predicted to see 95% of its soil degraded in less than 30 years due to intensive farming practices.
  
  1
• Southeast Asia: This region is also facing soil degradation, with over 40% of soils degraded, primarily due to farming practices.
  
  1
• Europe: The European Union is facing challenges with soil degradation, particularly in the Mediterranean region.
  
  1
• Asia: Soil degradation is a significant issue in Asia, with various forms of degradation affecting agricultural productivity and ecosystem health.
  
  1
  These regions highlight the global nature of soil depletion and the need for sustainable practices to mitigate its impact.

Map shows how much U.S. land may be degraded by 2050

Save Soil movement predicts massive damage to fields all over the glove over the next 30 years.

www.newsweek.com

And increased temperatures do not help;

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0929139325003774

 

[ReinyDays]

Jerome Rodale started Organic Gardening magazine in 1942 ... Prevention magazine in 1950 ... the OP is pretty much 100 years behind the times ... yeesh ... S'tommy is correct ... farmers have long known to fallow their fields on a regular basis ... or grow soil-building crops like soybeans ...

This only shows that flatlanding cityslickers don't know how their food is made ...

 

[Moonglow]

Famous quote about soil is: "A nation that destroys its soil destroys itself."

 

[ReinyDays]

Famous quote about soil is: "A nation that destroys its soil destroys itself."

Let's raise taxes on the Middle Class and pay corporate agriculture to not grow food ... family farms need not apply ...

 

[Sunsettommy]

Jerome Rodale started Organic Gardening magazine in 1942 ... Prevention magazine in 1950 ... the OP is pretty much 100 years behind the times ... yeesh ... S'tommy is correct ... farmers have long known to fallow their fields on a regular basis ... or grow soil-building crops like soybeans ...

This only shows that flatlanding cityslickers don't know how their food is made ...

Plus, this is what I was trained for in college, did travel to several farms to see how they handled their soils and the irrigation methods, some farmers are outstanding because they are well educated even helped install a large irrigation circle that had to be precise, or it would fail within the week of its operation, did wheel irrigation work on a family farm in summer of 1980, had to "buck" the wheel line on occasion to make it go straight across the field.

Crop rotation and soil rebuilding is also employed as they MUST because Hybrid seeds require much more elements for growth that forces them to rotate or there will be increasing difficulties to maintaining soil health and they have learned not to add too much nitrogen at a time which can damage or kill soil microbes this is all 101 stuffs learned in college and seminars I went to.

It was the Rodale group who gave us minimum tilling methods and to plant seed and fertilize in a single pass which help to keep soil tilth up as excessive till destroys soil tilth and porosity over time.

In my own garden beds, I never till or walk on the growing surfaces, add grass clippings several times and then cover the beds with a 2" layer for the winter and I use only open pollinated seeds thus much easier to keep the soils happy.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Your question is a rhetorical comment, meaning you don't believe it.

The regions experiencing significant soil depletion include:​

• Sub-Saharan Africa: This region is particularly affected by drought and erosion, leading to food insecurity and famine.
  
  1
• North America: The U.S. is predicted to see 95% of its soil degraded in less than 30 years due to intensive farming practices.
  
  1
• Southeast Asia: This region is also facing soil degradation, with over 40% of soils degraded, primarily due to farming practices.
  
  1
• Europe: The European Union is facing challenges with soil degradation, particularly in the Mediterranean region.
  
  1
• Asia: Soil degradation is a significant issue in Asia, with various forms of degradation affecting agricultural productivity and ecosystem health.
  
  1
  These regions highlight the global nature of soil depletion and the need for sustainable practices to mitigate its impact.

Map shows how much U.S. land may be degraded by 2050

Save Soil movement predicts massive damage to fields all over the glove over the next 30 years.

www.newsweek.com

Yawn this has been talked about for DECADES!

I saw this overblown shit back in 1980 when I was studying Soil agronomy and other subjects related to agriculture that is 45 ******* years ago, meanwhile yields continues to increase because agriculture is a well-practiced field with many well-educated farmers doing the work.

LOL.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yawn this has been talked about for DECADES!

I saw this overblown shit back in 1980 when I was studying Soil agronomy and other subjects related to agriculture that is 45 ******* years ago, meanwhile yields continues to increase because agriculture is a well-practiced field with many well-educated farmers doing the work.

LOL.

Apparently, it's still a 'growing' problem. "Artificials" face future shortages and upsets.


Fertilizer shortages are currently a significant concern due to various factors:

• Supply Chain Disruptions: Labor shortages, transportation delays, and geopolitical tensions have disrupted the global supply chain, leading to increased prices and reduced availability of fertilizers.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=0e21...lcnRpbGl6ZXItc2hvcnRhZ2UtaW4tdGhlLXVzLw&ntb=1
• Price Increases: Phosphate prices have surged nearly 36% between January and August 2025, while nitrogen and potash markets remain volatile due to energy and trade disruptions.
• Impact on Agriculture: These shortages can squeeze profit margins for farmers, leading to reduced crop yields and higher food prices for consumers.
• Long-term Implications: The ongoing volatility in fertilizer prices and supply is expected to persist, affecting food security and agricultural productivity, especially in low-income countries.
• Sustainable Practices: Encouraging farmers to adopt sustainable fertilizer management practices can help mitigate the effects of shortages and ensure a more stable supply.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=0e21...lcnRpbGl6ZXItc2hvcnRhZ2UtaW4tdGhlLXVzLw&ntb=1
  
  
  Addressing these challenges requires collaboration among governments, industry stakeholders, and farmers to enhance fertilizer production capacity and explore alternative sources of fertilizers.
• 
  
• 
  

 

[ReinyDays]

Plus, this is what I was trained for in college, did travel to several farms to see how they handled their soils and the irrigation methods, some farmers are outstanding because they are well educated even helped install a large irrigation circle that had to be precise, or it would fail within the week of its operation, did wheel irrigation work on a family farm in summer of 1980, had to "buck" the wheel line on occasion to make it go straight across the field.

Crop rotation and soil rebuilding is also employed as they MUST because Hybrid seeds require much more elements for growth that forces them to rotate or there will be increasing difficulties to maintaining soil health and they have learned not to add too much nitrogen at a time which can damage or kill soil microbes this is all 101 stuffs learned in college and seminars I went to.

It was the Rodale group who gave us minimum tilling methods and to plant seed and fertilize in a single pass which help to keep soil tilth up as excessive till destroys soil tilth and porosity over time.

In my own garden beds, I never till or walk on the growing surfaces, add grass clippings several times and then cover the beds with a 2" layer for the winter and I use only open pollinated seeds thus much easier to keep the soils happy.

Shade trees product leaf litter ... it's back-breaking work but I spade the stuff into my garden patch religiously ... these clay soils Westside are a chore to keep friable ...

 

[Sunsettommy]

Apparently, it's still a 'growing' problem. "Artificials" face future shortages and upsets.


Fertilizer shortages are currently a significant concern due to various factors:

• Supply Chain Disruptions: Labor shortages, transportation delays, and geopolitical tensions have disrupted the global supply chain, leading to increased prices and reduced availability of fertilizers.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=0e21...lcnRpbGl6ZXItc2hvcnRhZ2UtaW4tdGhlLXVzLw&ntb=1
• Price Increases: Phosphate prices have surged nearly 36% between January and August 2025, while nitrogen and potash markets remain volatile due to energy and trade disruptions.
• Impact on Agriculture: These shortages can squeeze profit margins for farmers, leading to reduced crop yields and higher food prices for consumers.
• Long-term Implications: The ongoing volatility in fertilizer prices and supply is expected to persist, affecting food security and agricultural productivity, especially in low-income countries.
• Sustainable Practices: Encouraging farmers to adopt sustainable fertilizer management practices can help mitigate the effects of shortages and ensure a more stable supply.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=0e21...lcnRpbGl6ZXItc2hvcnRhZ2UtaW4tdGhlLXVzLw&ntb=1
  
  
  Addressing these challenges requires collaboration among governments, industry stakeholders, and farmers to enhance fertilizer production capacity and explore alternative sources of fertilizers.
• 
  

That has always been a problem, it is clear you are unaware of this going back decades in parts of the world.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Russia can easily stop this trade if the US continues to be stupid over worthless Ukraine.​

Nitrogen (72%) is the choke point as US gets most of it from Russia and little anywhere else.

​

Does the US Import Russian Fertilizer? Top Fertilizer Importer in USA​

Apr 24, 2025

Excerpt:

Does the US Import Russian Fertilizer? Top Fertilizer Importer in USA​

Discover whether the US imports fertilizer from Russia, explore the role of Russian fertilizer in US markets, and learn about the top fertilizer importer in USA.​

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With the ongoing geopolitical tensions between the US and Russia, many may wonder if the US continues to import fertilizer from its European counterpart. According to the US import data and USA fertilizer import data, the US fertilizer imports reached a total value of $9.37 billion in 2024, a 5% decline from the previous year. The US imports the most fertilizers from Canada, followed by Russia. In recent years, there has been growing concern about the United States’ dependency on foreign countries for key resources such as fertilizers. With Russia being a major player in the global fertilizer market, many are wondering: Does the US import fertilizer from Russia in 2024-25, and how much fertilizer does the US import?

Yes, the US imports fertilizers from Russia as per the US-Russia bilateral trade data. The US fertilizer imports from Russia in 2024 accounted for $1.30 billion, a 2% decline from 2023, as per the Russia export data and US trade data. Let's take a closer look at the current situation and prospects. In this article, we will dive into the current status of fertilizer imports from Russia to the United States, specifically focusing on the years 2024-25.

LINK

 

[Clipper]

Jerome Rodale started Organic Gardening magazine in 1942 ... Prevention magazine in 1950 ... the OP is pretty much 100 years behind the times ... yeesh ... S'tommy is correct ... farmers have long known to fallow their fields on a regular basis ... or grow soil-building crops like soybeans ...

This only shows that flatlanding cityslickers don't know how their food is made ...

And dopes like you should know that food isn't "made".