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Weapon of war...the pump action shotgun....should it be banned too? The anti-gunners will eventually say yes....

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the only problem I have is with religious assholes trying to impose their bronze age superstitions on the rest of us.

Except most of that is spent on adults, very few children are getting either the drugs or the surgeries...

No kid is going to be gay because a drag queen read a story to him.
And no kid is going to be straight because you Scream JESUS at him for 12 years.

The only people who have to worry here are the bigots... that kids are being taught your bigotry is wrong.




Um, yeah, too bad none of that is happening.

Shit, man, get a new song. I'm old enough to remember when Anita Bryant was spewing this shit in the 1970's. It was silly then, it's silly now.

Um, yeah. $1.2 billion dollars annually is the value of leftist grooming targeting children. The problem so many people have with your side is the exploitation of childen as young as three years old being groomed. It's a vile program of coercing young children into behaving and identifying in ways that are controlled by groomer teachers and those in control of schools.


Deliberately indoctrinating pre-pubescent children about a basic aspect of their identity, in front of their peers, should be punishable by law. Fortunately, school districts are responding and with laws prohibiting your side from grooming, there is action being taken.

It's telling that your side sees a need to use lies and deceit - coercing children not to tell their parents what is taking place - as the groomers use tranny freak shows and pornographic material to groom children.

No one really cares how tranny you want to be or if you cross-dress but people do care when you want to groom children with such ideology.
 

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Um, yeah. $1.2 billion dollars annually is the value of leftist grooming targeting children. The problem so many people have with your side is the exploitation of childen as young as three years old being groomed. It's a vile program of coercing young children into behaving and identifying in ways that are controlled by groomer teachers and those in control of schools.

Um, where do you get that number? Your claim was this was the cost of adults getting Gender Confirmation Treatment, which children plain old aren't getting unless their families jump through a lot of hoops.

Deliberately indoctrinating pre-pubescent children about a basic aspect of their identity, in front of their peers, should be punishable by law. Fortunately, school districts are responding and with laws prohibiting your side from grooming, there is action being taken.

Ah, and this is what bothers you isn't it? That we are teaching kids that bigotry is wrong.

The reality is, you are on the wrong side of history. YOu know how I know this? Because big corporations are hopping on the bandwagon. The company I work for recently launched an initiative to allow people to pick their pronouns and even use them in their signature blocks.

It's telling that your side sees a need to use lies and deceit - coercing children not to tell their parents what is taking place - as the groomers use tranny freak shows and pornographic material to groom children.

Uh, funny thing. The most likely people to "groom" children are family members. The next most likely group are clergy. The Catholic High School I went to, the junior football coach invited his players to his house to watch gay porn. And this went on for years before he was finally fired.
 

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Um, where do you get that number? Your claim was this was the cost of adults getting Gender Confirmation Treatment, which children plain old aren't getting unless their families jump through a lot of hoops.



Ah, and this is what bothers you isn't it? That we are teaching kids that bigotry is wrong.

The reality is, you are on the wrong side of history. YOu know how I know this? Because big corporations are hopping on the bandwagon. The company I work for recently launched an initiative to allow people to pick their pronouns and even use them in their signature blocks.



Uh, funny thing. The most likely people to "groom" children are family members. The next most likely group are clergy. The Catholic High School I went to, the junior football coach invited his players to his house to watch gay porn. And this went on for years before he was finally fired.

Um, yeah. The grooming industry is growing.



How cool is it that groomer California is now a grooming sanctuary city?



Um, yeah. It's great your company is on the grooming bandwagon. Do it soon, though. States are taking action to limit the child exploitation you're going to do.


Florida seems to be something of a trailblazer in terms of inspiring other states to consider legislation limiting conversations in classrooms about sexual orientation and gender identity.


Um, yeah. Odd how schools are at the heart of the grooming industry.


On April 9, Oklahoma State University hosted a “drag queen story hour” for children as young as 2 years old on its campus. The event was part of the university’s “Pride 2022” celebration. A description for the program stated two drag performers would read books to all attendees and that the drag queen story hour was geared toward children between the ages of 2 to 8, but that “all ages [were] welcome to join in on the fun.
 

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Um, yeah. The grooming industry is growing.
How is medical treatment for adults "grooming", exactly?

How cool is it that groomer California is now a grooming sanctuary city?

You mean that they can actually get treatment there if the bigots in their home states prevent it? Not seeing a problem.

Um, yeah. It's great your company is on the grooming bandwagon. Do it soon, though. States are taking action to limit the child exploitation you're going to do.

So letting adults use the pronouns of their choice is grooming? Here's the reality... big corporations are done with you bigots. You served your purpose, allowing the GOP to dismantle unions and the middle class, but now you've pretty much outlived your usefulness.

Florida seems to be something of a trailblazer in terms of inspiring other states to consider legislation limiting conversations in classrooms about sexual orientation and gender identity.

And they'll lose. Kind of like you guys were all thrilled when the Mormon Liars got Proposition Hate passed... but eventually, you lost.

On April 9, Oklahoma State University hosted a “drag queen story hour” for children as young as 2 years old on its campus. The event was part of the university’s “Pride 2022” celebration. A description for the program stated two drag performers would read books to all attendees and that the drag queen story hour was geared toward children between the ages of 2 to 8, but that “all ages [were] welcome to join in on the fun.

Wow... um, so exactly how is that "grooming"? Telling kids that trans people exist isn't grooming.
 

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How is medical treatment for adults "grooming", exactly?



You mean that they can actually get treatment there if the bigots in their home states prevent it? Not seeing a problem.



So letting adults use the pronouns of their choice is grooming? Here's the reality... big corporations are done with you bigots. You served your purpose, allowing the GOP to dismantle unions and the middle class, but now you've pretty much outlived your usefulness.



And they'll lose. Kind of like you guys were all thrilled when the Mormon Liars got Proposition Hate passed... but eventually, you lost.



Wow... um, so exactly how is that "grooming"? Telling kids that trans people exist isn't grooming.
Um, yeah. Grownups can use whatever pronouns, labels or descriptions for themselves they choose.

When those grownups attempt to groom children, that's crossing a line. Groomers who conceal their agenda in schools by coercion in that the children are instructed to conceal the grooming agenda from parents is wrong, alhough I'm sure you see nothing wrong with that behavior.

Um, yeah. In terms of getting treatment, you acknowledge that gender dysphoria is a disorder in need of treatment. There's every reason to accept that pressing a grooming agenda on children is coercion. The gender dysphoria treatment needs to be directed at adults who are the groomers trying to damage children.
 

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It’s not genitalia that determines gender, says clinical psychiatrist Murat Altinay, MD, Head of LGBT Mental Health Services at Cleveland Clinic. A closer look at brain structure and function reveals that transgender people have striking similarities to their identified gender rather than their biological gender — even before hormone therapy.

You're making an appeal to authority, to a source that like yourself, is so fucked-up in his head that he doesn't even grasp the basic distinction between male and female.

What credibility do you think any such source has to sane people?

The correct answer would be “none at all”.
 

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Um, yeah. Grownups can use whatever pronouns, labels or descriptions for themselves they choose.

When those grownups attempt to groom children, that's crossing a line. Groomers who conceal their agenda in schools by coercion in that the children are instructed to conceal the grooming agenda from parents is wrong, alhough I'm sure you see nothing wrong with that behavior.

Um, yeah. In terms of getting treatment, you acknowledge that gender dysphoria is a disorder in need of treatment. There's every reason to accept that pressing a grooming agenda on children is coercion. The gender dysphoria treatment needs to be directed at adults who are the groomers trying to damage children.

Uh, here's the thing. 50 years ago, homosexuality was considered a disorder. Then when they realize the only arguments the bigots had were "I think it's icky" and "My imaginary friend in the sky says it's bad". they took it off the list of disorders. Same thing here with gender identity. Different doesn't mean wrong.

No one is "hiding" anything from parents, dummy. I'm not even sure how that could be done, exactly.

You're making an appeal to authority, to a source that like yourself, is so fucked-up in his head that he doesn't even grasp the basic distinction between male and female.

What credibility do you think any such source has to sane people?

The correct answer would be “none at all”.

Hmmm.. who am I going to believe has "Credibility".
A scientist who has spent decades studying the issue..
Or some whackadoodle cultist who thinks he's wearing "Magic Underwear"?
 

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You can't whine about "crime" if you are unwilling to address the underlying causes - poverty, racism, mental illness, addiction, gun proliferation.

The rest of the industrialized world has figured this out.

I dunno, try coming through my door. I don't give a shit how hard you had it.
 

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Uh, here's the thing. 50 years ago, homosexuality was considered a disorder. Then when they realize the only arguments the bigots had were "I think it's icky" and "My imaginary friend in the sky says it's bad". they took it off the list of disorders. Same thing here with gender identity. Different doesn't mean wrong.

No one is "hiding" anything from parents, dummy. I'm not even sure how that could be done, exactly.



Hmmm.. who am I going to believe has "Credibility".
A scientist who has spent decades studying the issue..
Or some whackadoodle cultist who thinks he's wearing "Magic Underwear"?
I understand professing ignorance about leftist grooming is a part of the Cult ideology but who are you kidding?



''A teacher training for a Texas public school district directed teachers to hide information about students’ gender identity from their parents in order to make school a “safe” place.''




Loudoun County School District officials instructed staff to avoid informing a transgender student's parents about their child's gender identity unless the student gives the school expressed permission, according to materials from the training.




When “woke” educators seek to indoctrinate students, sometimes they work hard to sneak it past parents.

Here are some of the top times efforts to sneak indoctrination got revealed.



The lists just go and on with leftist groomers. Your denials are really pretty pathetic.
 

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''A teacher training for a Texas public school district directed teachers to hide information about students’ gender identity from their parents in order to make school a “safe” place.''

Loudoun County School District officials instructed staff to avoid informing a transgender student's parents about their child's gender identity unless the student gives the school expressed permission, according to materials from the training.

These are specific cases of a CHILD decided to hide information from a parent, and the school district supporting it.

SO you want the school district to rat these kids out, and subject them to abuse?
 

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These are specific cases of a CHILD decided to hide information from a parent, and the school district supporting it.

SO you want the school district to rat these kids out, and subject them to abuse?
Those are not SPECIFIC cases of a CHILD deciding to hide information. Those are cases of leftist grooming.

So, you approve of child grooming / child abuse. How nice.
 

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Hmmm.. who am I going to believe has "Credibility".
A scientist who has spent decades studying the issue..
Or some whackadoodle cultist who thinks he's wearing "Magic Underwear"?

If someone who claims to be a mathematician tells me that •• plus •• equals ••••••••••, then I know not to believe anything that he tells me. Such a person is either seriously fucked-up in his head, or else he's willfully lying to me; and in either case, he is proving himself to have no credibility whatsoever on any topic.

The distinction between men and women is based on objective, observable, provable criteria, that are obvious to any sane person. Anyone who denies these criteria, and who claims that a man can be a woman or vice versa, no less that the hypothetical “mathematician” in my previous sentence, is either seriously fucked-up in his head, or else he's willfully lying to me; and in either case, he is proving himself to have no credibility whatsoever on any topic.

Who are you going to believe—someone who is obviously that fucked-up in his head, or what you can directly see and observe with your own eyes and ears and other senses?

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”—George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
 

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No one is "hiding" anything from parents, dummy. I'm not even sure how that could be done, exactly.
When “woke” educators seek to indoctrinate students, sometimes they work hard to sneak it past parents.
Here are some of the top times efforts to sneak indoctrination got revealed.

I remember, when I was a child, or at least a teenager, being taught that if someone tells you not to tell your parents about something going on between you and that other person, that that is a huge red flag. There is no legitimate reason whatsoever to be hiding something involving a child, from that child's parents, and any effort to do so is prima facie proof of some malevolent intent that the parents very much have a right and a need to know about.
 

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You can't whine about "crime" if you are unwilling to address the underlying causes - poverty, racism, mental illness, addiction, gun proliferation.

The true underlying cause of crime, which you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge, is that some nominally-human creatures make a willful choice to behave instead as subhuman animals.

All your excuses that you use to defend subhuman criminal shit are bullshit, nothing more. Nobody took their humanity away from them and forced them to commit crimes. They chose to forfeit their humanity by committing crimes. All that you accomplish by defending them and making excuses for them is to clearly show us that you are no better and no different from them. I do not claim to know what crimes you may have committed, but it is absolutely clear that your own character is that of a subhuman criminal piece of shit, and not that of an actual human being.
 

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Those are not SPECIFIC cases of a CHILD deciding to hide information. Those are cases of leftist grooming.

Nope, they weren't... If the teacher were looking to have sex with the kid, that would be grooming.
If the teacher keeps a kid's confidence because their parents are homophobic monsters, that's actually being a decent human being.

Hey, speaking of homophobic monsters....

If someone who claims to be a mathematician tells me that •• plus •• equals ••••••••••, then I know not to believe anything that he tells me. Such a person is either seriously fucked-up in his head, or else he's willfully lying to me; and in either case, he is proving himself to have no credibility whatsoever on any topic.

We aren't talking about math. We are talking about gender identity. Something you are barely qualified to talk about. As stated, they've done the science, and lo and behold, a transgender person has a brain that is wired differently. Not wrong, just different.

The distinction between men and women is based on objective, observable, provable criteria, that are obvious to any sane person. Anyone who denies these criteria, and who claims that a man can be a woman or vice versa, no less that the hypothetical “mathematician” in my previous sentence, is either seriously fucked-up in his head, or else he's willfully lying to me; and in either case, he is proving himself to have no credibility whatsoever on any topic.

Or he has a better understanding of it than you do. Out of curiosity, how many gay or trans people do you actually know? I'm guessing none.

Who are you going to believe—someone who is obviously that fucked-up in his head, or what you can directly see and observe with your own eyes and ears and other senses?

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”—George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

Yawn.... yes, telling you to not be a bigot is just like 1984, Bob.


So what are you going to do when your cult starts accepting LGBTQ people?


Whoops, looks like someone had a talk with God again!
 

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I remember, when I was a child, or at least a teenager, being taught that if someone tells you not to tell your parents about something going on between you and that other person, that that is a huge red flag. There is no legitimate reason whatsoever to be hiding something involving a child, from that child's parents, and any effort to do so is prima facie proof of some malevolent intent that the parents very much have a right and a need to know about.

Sure there is.

Let's say a kid knows he's gay, but his parents are Mormon assholes. (but I repeat myself) He's confided in a teacher. Does the teacher...

1) Keep the kid's confidence, maybe refer him to a counselor who can help him sort through it.
2) Call up his parents, and when they are done shitting their Magic Underwear, send this kid off to Gay Conversion Therapy that just leaves him more fucked up?

Of course, you'd pick #2.

The true underlying cause of crime, which you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge, is that some nominally-human creatures make a willful choice to behave instead as subhuman animals.

Again, the morality of a full belly. Tonight, you are going to have a roof over your head and enough to eat. And even though I think you are probably nuts, for the moment, you seem functional. Good on you, man.

But a week of living on the street, you'd be that scary homeless guy the rest of us cross the street to avoid.

All your excuses that you use to defend subhuman criminal shit are bullshit, nothing more. Nobody took their humanity away from them and forced them to commit crimes. They chose to forfeit their humanity by committing crimes. All that you accomplish by defending them and making excuses for them is to clearly show us that you are no better and no different from them. I do not claim to know what crimes you may have committed, but it is absolutely clear that your own character is that of a subhuman criminal piece of shit, and not that of an actual human being.

Yes, I am clearly guilty of the crime of compassion, dude. But for the record, I've never had anything more serious than a moving violation.

But you keep living your nice, white bread life, cross the street when you see a homeless person, and pretend you are a better person and not just a more fortunate one.
 

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Yes, I am clearly guilty of the crime of compassion, dude.

You have plenty of “compassion” for subhuman criminal shit.

But no compassion at all for actual human beings who are victimized thereby.
 

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How strange that the groomer wannabe insists that grooming, preying on children, is not taking place in schools when it's taking place in schools.
Remarkable how leftists are so willing to be accomplices to child abuse.

Also, odd, how they cannot even keep their lies straight, from one sentence to another. They alternate between denying that it is taking place in the face of undeniable proof that it is) and defending it, condemning those who oppose this abuse as “bigots”.

It's difficult to grasp that these sorts don't even understand that they could be much more successful liars, if they made any attempt to keep their story consistent. When you say one thing, in one moment, and then in the next moment, you directly contradict what you just said before; even the most gullible will see that you're lying.

Perhaps it's a feature of the Incel Joe variant on sociopathic pathological lying to be unable to grasp the fact that one is being blatantly inconsistent with one's lies, or how that affects others' perception of them.
 

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Also, odd, how they cannot even keep their lies straight, from one sentence to another. They alternate between denying that it is taking place in the face of undeniable proof that it is) and defending it, condemning those who oppose this abuse as “bigots”.

It's difficult to grasp that these sorts don't even understand that they could be much more successful liars, if they made any attempt to keep their story consistent. When you say one thing, in one moment, and then in the next moment, you directly contradict what you just said before; even the most gullible will see that you're lying.
Nope, there is no "Grooming" happening.

And those who oppose teaching kids to accept themselves are bigots.

The sad thing is, you are on the wrong side of history.
 

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Nope, there is no "Grooming" happening.

And those who oppose teaching kids to accept themselves are bigots.

The sad thing is, you are on the wrong side of history.
Um, yeah. Your side is grooming.


The Michigan Department of Education's training program for public school employees includes an expansive program on gender and sexual identities along with instructions for facilitating student gender transitions without parental notice.
 

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