WE TOLD You SO!!! "He just didn’t have the experience for governance"

[whitehall]

What did Obama accomplish in his first two years with a solid majority in both houses? Cash for Clunkers? While the rest of the world was hoarding and drilling and getting rich off fossil fuel Obama promised to "wean" the U.S. off the stuff by artificially propping up solar energy with tax dollars until the industry finally collapsed. Electric cars still don't work and windmills kill migratory birds (and people?) . On the foreign policy front Obama's policies were so incoherent that even the liberal media won't defend them. Ouirky Khaddafi was no threat to the U.S. but Obama decided to destabilize the country and the power vacuum ushered in the muslem brtherhood. Likewise Syria and even Egypt.

 

[Timmy]

What did Obama accomplish in his first two years with a solid majority in both houses? Cash for Clunkers? While the rest of the world was hoarding and drilling and getting rich off fossil fuel Obama promised to "wean" the U.S. off the stuff by artificially propping up solar energy with tax dollars until the industry finally collapsed. Electric cars still don't work and windmills kill migratory birds (and people?) . On the foreign policy front Obama's policies were so incoherent that even the liberal media won't defend them. Ouirky Khaddafi was no threat to the U.S. but Obama decided to destabilize the country and the power vacuum ushered in the muslem brtherhood. Likewise Syria and even Egypt.

Oil is at record lows .

Libya + Egypt overthrew their own dictator . We just helped wh some air cover .

Suddenly cons are for leaving Mid East dictators alone ?!

And that windmill bird killing thing is a lie .

 

[rightwinger]

President Obama will be known for his role in the destruction of the Republican Party....Trump is the result

Not by anything he specifically initiated, but merely by his presence, he enraged Republicans so much that they initiated a path of self destruction that started with rightwing media, the Tea Party, the Ted Cruz shutdown and eventually Donald Trump

Yeah, because we all know that this way through this world is through leftardism which equals communism where thye state is everything and the "end all be all". It would not be the utopia that you think it would be. You don't have even the slightest clue as to why things suck like they do and why we are heading over a cliff....stupid fucks like you believe it's because not enough FRNs are lifted from the pockets of those that barter their labor in exchange for something that thy can use to eek out a meager existence. Ignorant fucks like you make me sick to my stomach...you have no fucking clue but yet you act like you do. You wave that rainbow colored "demcrat flag" like some kind of victory banner as if it validates you.....I just laugh at you.

What does that rambling screed have to do with what I posted?

 

[there4eyeM]

Better than leaving office as a war criminal as did his predecessor.

But, clearly, Obama will not be ranked as a top-rate Chief Executive.

 

[JoeB131]

Never before has someone spent so much to fix so little..................Leaving a legacy of debt that our children have no hope of paying back................

So, uh, no. We spend because of commitments made long before Obama got there.

Now, if we made the rich pay their fair share, we might be on to something.

Funny how you guys only give a fuck about deficits when White Republicans aren't in charge

 

[JoeB131]

Foreign policy........FAILURE.
1. ISIS rise and after years of continuous combat they are still expanding.
2. Libya........in full chaos with ISIS on the rise.
3. Yemen.........U.S. gets kicked out.
4. Assad.....stated policy of removal..........failure.
5. Iran......stupid agreement that will end the same as North Korea. have become even flagrant with their actions.
6. Iran.....gaining power throughout the region..firing missiles with death to Israel on them
7. Egypt flipped us off and rightfully so completely against what Obama said they must do with the Muslim Brotherhood.
8. Makes alliances with the Kurds and then stands bye as Turkey kills them.

ISIS happened because of Bush.
Yemen, Libya, Syria- has a lot more to do with the people who live there.
Iran- Awesome agreement. But they wouldn't be expanding in the region if Bush hadn't fucked stuff up to start with.

Now, if they DID wipe out Israel, refresh my memory, why would that be a bad thing again?

The problem in Egypt is that no one can solve it's economic problems. Not Mubarek, not Morsi, not Sisi. It's what happens after Sisi that will be the problem.

Then maybe the Kurds shouldn't have been stirring up shit in Turkey?

 

[Stephanie]

Obama was put in for one thing. and that was to bring us down to our knees. He knew what his job was and he did fine job, WITH the help of our elected Snakes from Both parties. people aren't involved enough to spank their Representatives even with a phone call, email, etc. so they figure lets steamroll over them. and they have

 

[there4eyeM]

The entire House of Representatives can be replaced every two years. When has that ever happened, or anything even close, Since 1964, never more than about 15% turnover has occurred.
Reelection Rates Over the Years | OpenSecrets

 

[Stephanie]

The entire House of Representatives can be replaced every two years. When has that ever happened, or anything even close, Since 1964, never more than about 15% turnover has occurred.
Reelection Rates Over the Years | OpenSecrets

here's a question for liberals: when was the last time they voted OUT one of their snakes from the party? most of them are Career politicians or they put in some Junior Senator in as our President.... and that proves my point.

 

[kiwiman127]

Obama's Legacy is a complete failure.

Foreign policy........FAILURE.
1. ISIS rise and after years of continuous combat they are still expanding.
2. Libya........in full chaos with ISIS on the rise.
3. Yemen.........U.S. gets kicked out.
4. Assad.....stated policy of removal..........failure.
5. Iran......stupid agreement that will end the same as North Korea. have become even flagrant with their actions.
6. Iran.....gaining power throughout the region..firing missiles with death to Israel on them
7. Egypt flipped us off and rightfully so completely against what Obama said they must do with the Muslim Brotherhood.
8. Makes alliances with the Kurds and then stands bye as Turkey kills them.


Domestic..............FAILURE.
1. More debt added than all the previous presidents combined.
2. Record numbers on Welfare and Food Stamps.
3. Median wages continue to fall.
4. Businesses continue to leave.
5. Promises lower Health Insurance costs and they increase dramatically.
6. Part time work President, do to the dumb ass clause in Obamacare.
7. Praises BLM movements and Racism to divide America.
8. More land grabs.
9. Lowest Labor Participation rate since the 60's.
10. Lowest Growth rates since Carter.......have to check that one but our growth rate sucks.....
11. Inflated the markets with QE's...........with BS job growth.

and so on...........

His legacy is a failure.

Well, this list is full of talking points and not backed up by facts. Of course this is to be expected.
Now, I agree that Obama hasn't been a good president and experience in governing something, anything would have helped. But the leading candidate for the GOP has never governed anything himself. Thus, Trump's total lack of detailed substance on just about everything.
Being as every foreign policy and ME experts without political ties do not solely blame the rise of the ISIS on Obama. Their list would include, Obama, Bush and Maliki. The birth of the ISIS is tied to the civil war in Iraq prior to Obama's presidency and Maliki's prosecution and isolation of the Sunni by Maliki's government. Bush was warned before the invasion of the ramifications of disposing of Saddam, which was a major reason his father (George H W), didn't dispose of Saddam back in the early 90s during the first Gulf War.
The rest of the foreign policy list is also nothing but partisan conjecture.
The list of Obama's domestic policy again reeks conjecture and falsehoods.
Take the claim that Obama added more debt than all previous presidents. That is complete bullshit. True Obama spent money like a most politicians on steroids, both Dem and GOP congresses went along with this spending, after all, Congress controls the purse strings. Secondly, when Obama's first day of his first fiscal year started the National Debt was 11,920,519,164,319.42, as of April 28 2016, the debt stood at 19,186,207,744,589.55. Whoops, those factual numbers prove the claim of Obama spending more than all previous presidents combined is utter bullshit.
"Median Wages continue to fall", the GOP has blocked any raises in the Minimum Wage which even the conservative Cato Institute says helps not only low wage earners but also middle class wage earners. The only way the US government can effect wages is by the level of the minimum wage, the rest lies with the employer.
Why do partisan hacks lie so much? Reason: they are unbelievably manipulated and let hyper partisan resources control their thoughts.

 

[there4eyeM]

The entire House of Representatives can be replaced every two years. When has that ever happened, or anything even close, Since 1964, never more than about 15% turnover has occurred.
Reelection Rates Over the Years | OpenSecrets

here's a question for liberals: when was the last time they voted OUT one of their snakes from the party? most of them are Career politicians or they put in some Junior Senator in as our President.... and that proves my point.

Excuse my answering in the place of 'liberals', but wouldn't 'liberals' and 'conservatives' have about an equal record on this?

 

[Dale Smith]

President Obama will be known for his role in the destruction of the Republican Party....Trump is the result

Not by anything he specifically initiated, but merely by his presence, he enraged Republicans so much that they initiated a path of self destruction that started with rightwing media, the Tea Party, the Ted Cruz shutdown and eventually Donald Trump

Yeah, because we all know that this way through this world is through leftardism which equals communism where thye state is everything and the "end all be all". It would not be the utopia that you think it would be. You don't have even the slightest clue as to why things suck like they do and why we are heading over a cliff....stupid fucks like you believe it's because not enough FRNs are lifted from the pockets of those that barter their labor in exchange for something that thy can use to eek out a meager existence. Ignorant fucks like you make me sick to my stomach...you have no fucking clue but yet you act like you do. You wave that rainbow colored "demcrat flag" like some kind of victory banner as if it validates you.....I just laugh at you.

What does that rambling screed have to do with what I posted?

It has everything to do with it...it's not my fault that you can't see through the bullshit and lies of this fake corporate "gubermint" system...you are simply blinded by ideology and you view the way things are through a very narrow scope. In your world, any one just right of Mao Tse Tung is a "teabagger" because you have little to no critical thinking skills. You are stuck in a paradigm you can't get out of. You have dug yourself in so deep that you could never backtrack now. I know...I was there at one time. I backed that POS Bush on the internet long after his sorry ass left office until by chance and fate, I woke up to what really was and it was a game changer. I got so pissed that I had wasted so much time and effort on "playing the game" that I made it my mission to find out what the real truth was and not what we are told it is.

I have found in my research that there were people from both sides of the political aisle that tried to stand up against the banking oligarchs and what was to happen if we didn't stop it. JFK was the last president that we had that actually put the people ahead of those that wanted him to exert control and he was a democrat so you can't accuse me of playing politics. Reagan and the neocons were frauds and helped to perpetuate this debt slavery system when they had the ability to try and stop it. The democrat party adopted the socialist agenda from the old socialist party of the 1930's at a secret caucus in 1980 so it was co-opted around the same time the neocons took control of the republican party...all of this is election shit is just theater....look at how Bernie sanders AND Donald Trump have been denied delegates which should tell everyone that can think that all elections are rigged...we have electronic voting machines with no paper trail for cryin' out loud and they have backdoored software that is easily compromised....get out of the game.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Yawn, guy, the Republican complaint about Obama.

He didn't fix all the things Bush fucked up fast enough.

Never before has someone spent so much to fix so little..................Leaving a legacy of debt that our children have no hope of paying back................

I've not seen that photo before.

Wow. She is angry.

 

[Dale Smith]

Foreign policy........FAILURE.
1. ISIS rise and after years of continuous combat they are still expanding.
2. Libya........in full chaos with ISIS on the rise.
3. Yemen.........U.S. gets kicked out.
4. Assad.....stated policy of removal..........failure.
5. Iran......stupid agreement that will end the same as North Korea. have become even flagrant with their actions.
6. Iran.....gaining power throughout the region..firing missiles with death to Israel on them
7. Egypt flipped us off and rightfully so completely against what Obama said they must do with the Muslim Brotherhood.
8. Makes alliances with the Kurds and then stands bye as Turkey kills them.

ISIS happened because of Bush.
Yemen, Libya, Syria- has a lot more to do with the people who live there.
Iran- Awesome agreement. But they wouldn't be expanding in the region if Bush hadn't fucked stuff up to start with.

Now, if they DID wipe out Israel, refresh my memory, why would that be a bad thing again?

The problem in Egypt is that no one can solve it's economic problems. Not Mubarek, not Morsi, not Sisi. It's what happens after Sisi that will be the problem.

Then maybe the Kurds shouldn't have been stirring up shit in Turkey?

Holy fuck but are you ever stupid....ISIS/al qaeda/ISIL are nothing but paid mercenaries with a few disgruntled middle easterners that are pissed that USA.INC meddled into their affairs and killed their families. ISIS/al qaeda has always been even unto this day a CIA front group with help from the Mossad, MI5, MI6 and Saudi intel and now they are using the Turkish government to wage a proxy war on Syria....how can you not know this?

 

[Yousaidwhat]

OBL is dead
GM is alive

Obama wins.

Divert your eyes back to the road. Not the bumper sticker.

 

[Timmy]

Obama was put in for one thing. and that was to bring us down to our knees. He knew what his job was and he did fine job, WITH the help of our elected Snakes from Both parties. people aren't involved enough to spank their Representatives even with a phone call, email, etc. so they figure lets steamroll over them. and they have

LOL! We have a full-blown case of Obama's derangement syndrome! We need 50 ccs of FOXNews stat!

 

[Yousaidwhat]

OBL is dead
GM is alive

Obama wins.

Candy is satisfied with a half eaten, moldy cob.

OUCH!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

OBL is dead
GM is alive

Obama wins.

OBL is dead in large part due to waterboarding. GM is still buried under a mountain of unfunded liabilities. All BHO did was dole out payola to the unions.

 

[JakeStarkey]

poor far right wing dimwits

 

[Iceweasel]

The same thread over and over . Here's the anti obama thread recipe :

1. Claim he failed on somthing using totally subjective criteria and opinion. No facts needed.

2. Invent obscure statistics and act as if they are common Economic indicators . Avoid time tested Indicators .

3. If somthing is good, claim that Obama has nothing to do with it . If something is bad , obama is 100% responsible .

4. If you can't avoid a good stat, just say it's a lie .

5. Make shit up.

He ran on turning the economy around, amongst many other things. Like Bush spending 4 trillion was unpatriotic. The economy was in the tank but we still aren't where we were before it crashed. There are many examples, discussed here quite frequently. You burrowing into your safe space so you can't see it doesn't make it go away, it just makes you look ignorant.

He pulled us out of the great recession part 2! He's kept us safe. He's pulled us out of Iraq . Has brought health care to all .

And I know the examples discussed . They go like this .

"Unemployment is at 5%"

"No its not, it's really 30%! ".

He fucked up Iraq. It was obie that the Iraqis used to get W to sign the withdrawal agreement in the first place. Now we have ISIS to fill in the vacuum. They are here, we are not kept safe, you're a liar. What is your claim obie did that turned the economy around. You criticized people for making baseless claims yet offer no support for yours. Many can no longer afford the insurance increase so you have a bizarre way of defining success.

The shit liberals have to say to cling to their beliefs!

Have our planes and buildings come crashing down around us ?

Fuck Iraq . We gave them everything they needed for over a decade. Not our fault they can't keep it together .

But hey, troops ain't coming back dead or blown up like they used to . I know that upsets right wingers .

Bush destroyed al queda so no buildings down. But now you are moving the goal posts to try to win the argument. You first said we were safe, no, ISIS is on the rise, thanks to obie.