We must restore constitutional government

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C_Clayton_Jones would have you believe that this is wholly “constitutional”. You know, since the U.S. is (and I quote) “currently functioning under constitutional government”. :shok:


That is a very good example.
The authority for government to exist or do anything at all comes from the authority we delegate to them to protect our rights for us. And clearly a person in a glassed in car is not endangering anyone else at all.
In fact, it was the police who endangered by stopping her and causing a social interaction.
Do we have the right to just sightsee and drive around? Of course we do. Otherwise it would be like imprisonment, where boredom is deliberately used as a punishment. We do need to get out of the house and we do have the right to sightsee, as long as in a safely confined car.
So the police were not only wrong, but totally and completely criminal.
 

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“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.
No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?
It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.
You'll have to forgive me. I don't have the benefit of a stylish tinfoil hat to boost my knowledge of such things like you do. Did you get your information from the voices in your head, or did it come directly from that implant the aliens put in you?

Go look at the Bill of Rights, specifically the 9th and 10th amendments.

{...

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

...}

These amendments are clearly dividing jurisdiction, and are saying that the federal government can ONLY do exactly what it is specifically authorized to do, and no more.
They are saying everything else that is not explicitly authorized to the federal government, are under the jurisdiction of someone else and can not be acted upon by the federal government.
I'm thoroughly impressed with how you know so much more than the SC justices. You should catch the first bus and go tell them how much they screwed up. I'm sure they will appreciate your superior knowledge.
You know as well as I do that the Supreme Court justices are aware of the fact the federal government is almost entirely out of compliance with the constitution. In their defense, one can consider the Constitution to be a work in progress, since originally it allowed slavery. Another excuse we can give them is the need and use for precedence, where you want stability, tradition, and for things to not change too quickly. But when you look at the overall change, it is far too drastic, with states going from having almost complete sovereign status, to now being pawns under federal budget control. Examples where the federal government are way out of control are the War on Drugs and the invasion of Iraq. Those are both areas where clearly it is the states that are supposed to make the decisions, whether through state representatives at state or federal levels.
Sorry buddy, but I'll have to go with the supreme court over the opinion of some anonymous poster on the internet. Perhaps you should get a sign and megaphone and go stand on a street corner.
 
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Sorry buddy, but I'll have to go with the supreme court over the opinion of some anonymous poster on the internet.
In your particular case (ie illiteracy), that’s wise. For those of us who can actually read (and comprehend) a 3 page document however, we go with our own eyes over justices drunk with power and appointed with an agenda.
 

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Sorry buddy, but I'll have to go with the supreme court over the opinion of some anonymous poster on the internet.
In your particular case (ie illiteracy), that’s wise. For those of us who can actually read (and comprehend) a 3 page document however, we go with our own eyes over justices drunk with power and appointed with an agenda.
I acknowledge that supreme court justices know more about the constitution than I ever will. If you want to call that illiterate, then OK. but it's not as stupid as thinking some nut bag on the internet is right while all the people with actual responsibility are wrong.
 
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I acknowledge that supreme court justices know more about the constitution than I ever will.
Well duh. My 3-year old knows more about the U.S. Constitution than you ever will. :laugh:
If you want to call that illiterate, then OK. but it's not as stupid as thinking some nut bag on the internet is right while all the people with actual responsibility are wrong.
That is an idiotic, immature, and irrational "reason". NFL, NBA, and MLB coaches are given "the actual responsibility" of running a team - along with millions and millions of dollars. How many of them are fired for winning less than half of their games? How about CEO's who are fired for running corporations into the ground? Just because someone was "given responsibility" doesn't mean they were qualified or capable.
 
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So idiot ⁦‪Bill de Blasio‬⁩ is letting criminals go free under the guise of “COVID” while Texas arresting suburban house wives under the guise of “COVID”. :eusa_doh:

We need some common sense leadership in this country and we need it NOW.
Like always, when it comes to stupid, oppressive cops, In Texas. WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!!
 
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New York’s laws are egregiously unconstitutional. Would love to see the American people converge on NY armed to teeth and fully prepared to defend their constitutional rights. Millions of us.
 

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“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.
Your bat soup is getting cold!
 
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The left-wing ideology of one massive federal government controlling everything, is extremely ignorant.
Can anyone be surprised that when the government dispenses a few trillion dollars in the course of a few weeks, targeting these funds efficiently—the aid being structured properly and funds getting where they need to go—is impossible?

Funds from the aid bills winding up in the hands of big corporations, professional sports teams, and rich Ivy League universities while many small businesses that can’t meet payroll are being shut out should come as no surprise.
It’s why everything the left does ends in catastrophic failure.
 

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This year July 4th will have a new name. "Independence Day" a mere memory......
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No fireworks.

Just burn copies of The (former) U.S. Constitution.
If you can find any liberals haven't already burned.
Or shredded and smoked.
 

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This year July 4th will have a new name. "Independence Day" a mere memory......
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No fireworks.


Just burn copies of The (former) U.S. Constitution.
If you can find any liberals haven't already burned.
Or shredded and smoked.
America declared it's independence on July 2.
The American Constitution is a liberal document, written primarily by liberals and based on the Age of Enlightenment. The Age of
Enlightenment was a liberal age, and not our last liberal period.
 

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"Liberal" in 1775 pretty much equates to militant conservative in 2020.
Liberalism doesn't change. The way it is implemented does change. Read Jefferson's Declaration of Independence for liberalism, or go back and read the philosophy of the ancient liberals.
 
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The American Constitution is a liberal document
Then why do "liberals" hate it so much? :dunno:
written primarily by liberals and based on the Age of Enlightenment
Oh, you mean the racist slave owners? Now that does sound like modern day liberals.
The Age of Enlightenment was a liberal age, and not our last liberal period
Makes the current age of pure liberal ignorance that much more tragic.
 

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The American Constitution is a liberal document
Then why do "liberals" hate it so much? :dunno:
written primarily by liberals and based on the Age of Enlightenment
Oh, you mean the racist slave owners? Now that does sound like modern day liberals.
The Age of Enlightenment was a liberal age, and not our last liberal period
Makes the current age of pure liberal ignorance that much more tragic.
So has America become more or less liberal since the Constitution?
 
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So has America become more or less liberal since the Constitution?
Sadly way more. And why? Because liberals hate the U.S. Constitution and are trying to get as far away from it as possible. The left loves centralized totalitarianism.
 
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“We must restore constitutional government”. Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.
Once again we see the ignorance of CCJ - the U.S. is not functioning under constitutional government as the Supreme Court just altered law. For those that are ignorant like CCJ: the Supreme Court is part of the Judicial branch and cannot create or alter law. Only the Legislative branch can do that.
 

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“We must restore constitutional government”. Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.
Once again we see the ignorance of CCJ - the U.S. is not functioning under constitutional government as the Supreme Court just altered law. For those that are ignorant like CCJ: the Supreme Court is part of the Judicial branch and cannot create or alter law. Only the Legislative branch can do that.
Hardly does complying with the Constitution on the basis of equality, liberty and fraternity allow the discrimination of a demographic group of humans you don't like.
 

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