We must restore constitutional government

[Rigby5]

We must restore constitutional government...

Gun-rights advocates sue Pennsylvania over 'ghost gun' rule, say state is classifying 'a hunk of metal' as a firearm

While I agree individuals must have firearm rights the state should not be infringing upon, when it comes to state legislation like this, it is the state constitution that has to be used, not the federal constitution.
The federal Bill of Rights really just restricts the federal government, not state or local government.
After the Civil War, and the 14th amendment, there has been a trend towards more supreme court defense of individual rights, but the 4th and 5th amendments create more of a gun rights penumbra than the 2nd does.

That was true until the incorporation doctrine. States must now comply with every amendment to the Constitution. If they have to comply with the 1st Amendment, then they have to comply with the 2nd Amendment.

I am not really going to disagree with that, but it is not quite that explicit.
If states had not violated the rights of individuals in a wholesale matter after the Civil War, then the whole 14th amendment and incorporation would never have happened or been needed. And the whole process of looking for individual rights that were the inspiration for the Bill of Rights is a vague and tenuous task.
For example, while the 2nd amendment essentially bans all federal firearms laws, it was not intended to ban all local or state firearms laws. For example, there is no reason to believe the 2nd amendment should prevent states from imposing a 18 year old age limit on those buying or owning firearms. So sure, I agree there is an individual right that was the inspiration for the 2nd amendment, but the ban on federal firearm jurisdiction is far more explicit and complete as compared to how states and municipalities should be restricted.

 

[Rigby5]

In 1968, 50% of blacks owned their homes. That number is unchanged 50 years later.

And what happened in 1967? Lyndon B. Johnson’s massive interference in healthcare (Medicare and Medicaid) and his “War on Poverty”.

Thank you for proving that government interference sets minorities back generations.

That implies Blacks had better home ownership before, and that is not true.
It was even worse before Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Bill.
The problem is a lack of regulation of the banks, who routinely still discriminate.

 

[Rigby5]

The left is terrified that we might actually restore constitutional government...

On Monday, Justice Brett Kavanaugh sent the clearest signal yet that the Supreme Court’s conservative majority is ready to take a wrecking ball to federal regulations. By doing so, the court could jeopardize a vast swath of laws that govern pollution, Wall Street, wage and hour rules, campaign finance limits, and more.

If those “federal regulations” were actually important, then Congress would pass them as law instead of the Executive branch forcing them on the American people via unconstitutional executive fiat.

Brett Kavanaugh Is Ready to Join the Supreme Court’s Conservatives to Tear Down Key Federal Regulations

From your link:
{...
Since most federal agencies are located within the executive branch, the doctrine would bar lawmakers from authorizing these agencies to make “policy decisions.” Instead, as Kavanaugh put it, agencies could only “decide less-major or fill-up-the-details decisions.”

What, you might ask, distinguished “major” and “less-major” policy decisions? No one really knows. That’s a key reason why the Supreme Court has only invoked the nondelegation doctrine to strike down a law twice in history—both times in 1935, at the height of the judicial revolt against the New Deal. Ever since, SCOTUS has only asked whether Congress gave agencies an “intelligible principle” to follow. If so, it upheld the law.
...}

So most federal regulations are just details necessary for the implementation and enforcement of the congressional legislation. Very rarely do federal regulation go beyond that and create policy that would be controversial.

 

[BULLDOG]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

 

[P@triot]

In 1968, 50% of blacks owned their homes. That number is unchanged 50 years later.

And what happened in 1967? Lyndon B. Johnson’s massive interference in healthcare (Medicare and Medicaid) and his “War on Poverty”.

Thank you for proving that government interference sets minorities back generations.

That implies Blacks had better home ownership before

No...that implies exactly what it says. That left without interference, homeownership would be exponentially higher today for the African-American community because that's simply the nature of evolving. The fact that it has stayed the same (when nothing stays the same) is all the evidence one needs.

 

[P@triot]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.

 

[BULLDOG]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.

You'll have to forgive me. I don't have the benefit of a stylish tinfoil hat to boost my knowledge of such things like you do. Did you get your information from the voices in your head, or did it come directly from that implant the aliens put in you?

 

[P@triot]

It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.

You'll have to forgive me. I don't have the benefit of a stylish tinfoil hat to boost my knowledge of such things like you do.

Tragically, you also don’t have the benefit of literacy, and thus having actually read the U.S. Constitution. Oh well. It is what it is.

 

[P@triot]

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

So this is “constitutional” in your mind, uh C_Clayton_Jones?

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Where do we draw the line?

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[BULLDOG]

It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.

You'll have to forgive me. I don't have the benefit of a stylish tinfoil hat to boost my knowledge of such things like you do.

Tragically, you also don’t have the benefit of literacy, and thus having actually read the U.S. Constitution. Oh well. It is what it is.

Odd that someone with a permanent seat at the children's table like you would try to discuss literacy.

 

[lennypartiv]

We must restore constitutional government...
The Inspector General’s Report on 2016 FBI Spying Reveals a Scandal of Historic Magnitude: Not Only for the FBI but Also the U.S. Media

The Deep State will protect their own. On top of that, they'll protect Hillary.

 

[Rigby5]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

What conspiracy?
We are discussing the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and federal jurisdiction.
If you read history, the intent of the founders is very clear.
They wanted an extremely weak federal government, which is why they first tried the Articles of Confederation, which gave the federal government no real power at all.
The Constitution was a second try, to make a slightly stronger federal government, but for example, there still was not even supposed to be a standing army of any significance. The only permanent troops were supposed to be the coast guards and training facilities only.

Almost all of what the federal government is doing now, like regulating firearms and drugs, is not explicitly authorized, and instead claimed to be implied under regulating interstate commerce clause or the domestic tranquility preamble. And the 9th and 10th amendments clearly prevent such interpretations.

 

[Rigby5]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.

You'll have to forgive me. I don't have the benefit of a stylish tinfoil hat to boost my knowledge of such things like you do. Did you get your information from the voices in your head, or did it come directly from that implant the aliens put in you?

Go look at the Bill of Rights, specifically the 9th and 10th amendments.

{...

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

...}

These amendments are clearly dividing jurisdiction, and are saying that the federal government can ONLY do exactly what it is specifically authorized to do, and no more.
They are saying everything else that is not explicitly authorized to the federal government, are under the jurisdiction of someone else and can not be acted upon by the federal government.

 

[BULLDOG]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

What conspiracy?
We are discussing the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and federal jurisdiction.
If you read history, the intent of the founders is very clear.
They wanted an extremely weak federal government, which is why they first tried the Articles of Confederation, which gave the federal government no real power at all.
The Constitution was a second try, to make a slightly stronger federal government, but for example, there still was not even supposed to be a standing army of any significance. The only permanent troops were supposed to be the coast guards and training facilities only.

Almost all of what the federal government is doing now, like regulating firearms and drugs, is not explicitly authorized, and instead claimed to be implied under regulating interstate commerce clause or the domestic tranquility preamble. And the 9th and 10th amendments clearly prevent such interpretations.

You seem to only know parts of the constitution. You completely ignore the parts that allow for modifications, and the the right of the SC to interpret what the constitution says. You should study what it says instead of whining because it doesn't say what you want it to say.

 

[BULLDOG]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.

You'll have to forgive me. I don't have the benefit of a stylish tinfoil hat to boost my knowledge of such things like you do. Did you get your information from the voices in your head, or did it come directly from that implant the aliens put in you?

Go look at the Bill of Rights, specifically the 9th and 10th amendments.

{...

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

...}

These amendments are clearly dividing jurisdiction, and are saying that the federal government can ONLY do exactly what it is specifically authorized to do, and no more.
They are saying everything else that is not explicitly authorized to the federal government, are under the jurisdiction of someone else and can not be acted upon by the federal government.

I'm thoroughly impressed with how you know so much more than the SC justices. You should catch the first bus and go tell them how much they screwed up. I'm sure they will appreciate your superior knowledge.

 

[P@triot]

I'm thoroughly impressed with how you know so much more than the SC justices. You should catch the first bus and go tell them how much they screwed up. I'm sure they will appreciate your superior knowledge.

I, on the other hand, am thoroughly unimpressed by your astounding ignorance to believe that every Supreme Court Justice in U.S. history has forgone their own selfish views and party bias, and ruled strictly and solely on the exact text of the U.S. Constitution.

I mean, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Ginsburgh never rubber-stamped the Obama agenda. Nope! Never.

 

[P@triot]

Odd that someone with a permanent seat at the children's table like you would try to discuss literacy.

Says the illiterate imbecile who is completely and totally baffled by the U.S. Constitution.

 

[P@triot]

C_Clayton_Jones would have you believe that this is wholly “constitutional”. You know, since the U.S. is (and I quote) “currently functioning under constitutional government”.

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'...failed to abide by the order of the governor'

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[Rigby5]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

What conspiracy?
We are discussing the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and federal jurisdiction.
If you read history, the intent of the founders is very clear.
They wanted an extremely weak federal government, which is why they first tried the Articles of Confederation, which gave the federal government no real power at all.
The Constitution was a second try, to make a slightly stronger federal government, but for example, there still was not even supposed to be a standing army of any significance. The only permanent troops were supposed to be the coast guards and training facilities only.

Almost all of what the federal government is doing now, like regulating firearms and drugs, is not explicitly authorized, and instead claimed to be implied under regulating interstate commerce clause or the domestic tranquility preamble. And the 9th and 10th amendments clearly prevent such interpretations.

You seem to only know parts of the constitution. You completely ignore the parts that allow for modifications, and the the right of the SC to interpret what the constitution says. You should study what it says instead of whining because it doesn't say what you want it to say.

Of course the constitution can be amended, and new things are bound to come up, like the need for the FAA.
But the amendment process is supposed to require a careful convention or state supermajority that is not being done. And the SCOTUS is NOT supposed to reinterpret a new meaning as to what the founders had in mind. The supreme court is only supposed to maintain the original intent. (And the supreme court has made some huge mistakes, like the Dred Scott decision, where they allowed the slavery laws of one state to be imposed on people in another state.)
And there simply is no way for the federal government to ever get jurisdiction over things like guns or drugs. That has already been explicitly denied to the federal government, so would require essentially scrapping the whole constitution, starting over, and allowing states to decide once again if they even wanted to join at all.

I know exactly what all of the constitution says, have read it all very carefully many times, and I know most of what the federal government is doing is illegal. For example, the only legal war the US has been in was the War of 1812, and all the US soldiers who died in battle since then are actually crimes by the US government.

 

[Rigby5]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

No the US government is not at all constitutional.
The current interpretations and procedures make the federal government not only supreme over the states, but in control of almost all laws, such as drugs, firearms, travel, censorship, taxation, etc., and all of that is not only completely wrong, but explicitly against the constitution.

First of all, we have to remember that the Bill of Rights are absolute restrictions on the federal government, that were contingent on any states even being willing to join the Union. So violation of the Bill of Rights essentially nullifies the whole country. And things like the 2nd amendment are not just a statement of rights, but an absolute prohibition on any and all federal jurisdiction over weapons at all. So ANY and ALL federal weapons laws are completely and extremely illegal.

That is not just the BATF that is illegal then, but also the DEA, FDA, and all federal agencies that are not just advisory, except the few that are actually authorized by the constitution, such as the coast guard, ambassadors, the post office, federal reserve, and a few others.

Clearly the founders wrote the Constitution to make states supreme, not the federal government. There are very few areas where the federal government is at all authorized, and even fewer where the federal government is supposed to be able to over ride a state.

Have you always been a conspiracy theory nutbag, or is that a recent development?

It's not a "conspiracy theory" you imbecile. You don't even know how to use that term right. Good grief. It's a simple fact that the states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, and law enforcement isn't one of them. Therefore, the F.B.I., the ATF, etc. are all unconstitutional.

You'll have to forgive me. I don't have the benefit of a stylish tinfoil hat to boost my knowledge of such things like you do. Did you get your information from the voices in your head, or did it come directly from that implant the aliens put in you?

Go look at the Bill of Rights, specifically the 9th and 10th amendments.

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Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

...}

These amendments are clearly dividing jurisdiction, and are saying that the federal government can ONLY do exactly what it is specifically authorized to do, and no more.
They are saying everything else that is not explicitly authorized to the federal government, are under the jurisdiction of someone else and can not be acted upon by the federal government.

I'm thoroughly impressed with how you know so much more than the SC justices. You should catch the first bus and go tell them how much they screwed up. I'm sure they will appreciate your superior knowledge.

You know as well as I do that the Supreme Court justices are aware of the fact the federal government is almost entirely out of compliance with the constitution. In their defense, one can consider the Constitution to be a work in progress, since originally it allowed slavery. Another excuse we can give them is the need and use for precedence, where you want stability, tradition, and for things to not change too quickly. But when you look at the overall change, it is far too drastic, with states going from having almost complete sovereign status, to now being pawns under federal budget control. Examples where the federal government are way out of control are the War on Drugs and the invasion of Iraq. Those are both areas where clearly it is the states that are supposed to make the decisions, whether through state representatives at state or federal levels.