We Knew this was coming.

[Daktoria]

"...don't intervene in foreign countries in the name of some people who are actually destroying our social fabric back home..."

Who is destroying our social fabric back home?

Those who own the media:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/An-Empire-Their-Own-Hollywood/dp/0385265573]An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood: Neal Gabler: 9780385265577: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]


The music behind Hollywood's golden age - Telegraph

Jews in Hollywood Jewish Actors Jewish Directors Jewish Producers

Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US Media

Jews In The American Media | Hollywood

Those who own psychology:

Judaism and Psychology - My Jewish Learning

Psychology in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

Jewish Women and the Feminist Revolution (Jewish Women's Archive)

Those who believe it's their entitlement to judge other people's performance of good works to represent a predestined calling because they're supposedly chosen by God and know what's the practical way to live your life better than you do:

Are the Jews the Chosen People? - Questions & Answers

The "Chosen People" | Jewish Virtual Library

The Chosen People - Torah.org

That's who.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

What better way to create a military more easily defeated on the field. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Obama's "Fundamental Transformation Of America" continues apace. We have to beg the Russians for a ride to the ISS. The Chinese have a rover on the Moon and are planning a manned base there as well as a Mars probe in the works. John Kerry is busy fellating the Mullahs and the rest of the services have been forbidden to utter anything remotely similar to the word 'God'

FDR asked all Americans to go to church and pray for the success of the D-Day invasion, Obama refused to allow FDR's words to be inscribed on the WWII memorial even though most of the memorial was financed by private donations. The Union Army eradicated slavery, thereby freeing Jessee Jackson's, Al Sharption's, and Jeremiah Wright's predecessors, marching to the "Battle Hymn Of The Republic" The Founders references "God' frequently in their drafts and papers, but Obama and his henchmen want nothing to do with an almighty anywhere or anyplace in the military.
What better way to lose a war by than by cutting the heart, the spine, and the guts that sustained them for the last two hundred and thirty eight years out of the military.

 

[Daktoria]

...and why does that situation exist in the first place?

Did you ever consider that the very maintenance of defense provokes the need for defense to begin with?

For example, if we weren't intervening in the Middle East for decades upon generations, why would we have a problem with radical Islamists today?

Sorry son , the situation exists because despite your utopian beliefs man is not a peaceful animal. He is selfish, violent and greedy. It was ever thus, pacifists and existenialists don't survive in the real world.

[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION]

I never denied the value of police.

We're talking about foreign policy here, not social policy. I agree that human nature is gray, not necessarily bright.

 

[Antares]

...and why does that situation exist in the first place?

Did you ever consider that the very maintenance of defense provokes the need for defense to begin with?

For example, if we weren't intervening in the Middle East for decades upon generations, why would we have a problem with radical Islamists today?

Sorry son , the situation exists because despite your utopian beliefs man is not a peaceful animal. He is selfish, violent and greedy. It was ever thus, pacifists and existenialists don't survive in the real world.

[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION]

I never denied the value of police.

We're talking about foreign policy here, not social policy. I agree that human nature is gray, not necessarily bright.

Your position, isolationism simply isn't valid.

Your hatred of the Jew renders you useless.

 

[bodecea]

Watch the military lower the standards for women. You know they'r egoing to do it to avoid the wrath of MOOCHelle and the rest of the feminists.

Marines: Most Female Recruits Don't Meet New Pullup Standard : NPR

Starting Jan. 1, every woman in the Marines Corps was supposed to meet a new physical standard by performing three pullups. But that has been put off.

The Marine Corps announced it quietly. There was no news conference — just a notice on its social media sites and an item on its own TV show, The Corps Report.

Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger explained that the pullup test had been put off until sometime next year, to gather more data and "ensure all female Marines are given the best opportunity to succeed."

So far, female Marines are not succeeding. Fifty-five percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were doing fewer than three pullups; only 1 percent of male recruits failed the test.

The three pullups is already the minimum required for all male Marines. Now the Marine Corps has postponed the plan, and that's raising questions about whether women have the physical strength to handle ground combat, which they'll be allowed to do beginning in 2016.

Marine officers would not talk to NPR on tape. They said they delayed the pullup requirement to avoid losing not only recruits but also current female Marines who can't pass the test.

The Marine Corps has been using it to test upper body strength for men for more than 40 years. And that upper body strength, they say, is necessary to serve in ground combat: to pull yourself out of a canal in Afghanistan, to climb over a mud wall, to carry an ammunition box.​

If they don't meet it, they don't meet it....they should work to be able to do it....there are certain exercises that can be recommended for upper body strength if they want to cut it in the Marines.

 

[g5000]

The military started to allow females and males to be trained jointly in basic training in 1982. You know it was really the feminist Nancy Reagan of which you reffer.

The females and males did not have the same physical standards, dipshit. Not even close. And they were not co-ed companies. And women were not allowed in combat.

 

[Antares]

The military started to allow females and males to be trained jointly in basic training in 1982. You know it was really the feminist Nancy Reagan of which you reffer.

The females and males did not have the same physical standards, dipshit. Not even close. And they were not co-ed companies. And women were not allowed in combat.

Sorry....my partner in the MP'S was a woman....despite my protests.
Yes it was peace time, but she was a liability.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Democrats are really hypocritical when it comes to the way they want women treated.

First they claim that women need special laws to protect them from men at home and in business. But then they turn around and claim that women are as tough as men and can be in combat units.

 

[g5000]

The military started to allow females and males to be trained jointly in basic training in 1982. You know it was really the feminist Nancy Reagan of which you reffer.

The females and males did not have the same physical standards, dipshit. Not even close. And they were not co-ed companies. And women were not allowed in combat.

Sorry....my partner in the MP'S was a woman....despite my protests.
Yes it was peace time, but she was a liability.

I am deeply opposed to women in combat, and in many other billets. I was pointing out to Moonglow that just because females and males train on the same base does not mean they are training to the same standards. His Nancy Reagan premise is completely bogus.

This women-in-combat bullshit all started with Pat Schroeder, and I don't want anyone to ever forget it.

 

[Daktoria]

Sorry son , the situation exists because despite your utopian beliefs man is not a peaceful animal. He is selfish, violent and greedy. It was ever thus, pacifists and existenialists don't survive in the real world.

[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION]

I never denied the value of police.

We're talking about foreign policy here, not social policy. I agree that human nature is gray, not necessarily bright.

Your position, isolationism simply isn't valid.

Your hatred of the Jew renders you useless.

What's useful is subjective. Judging people on the basis of being useful is intolerant. Judaism judges people that way as well, so Judaism is intolerant. Perhaps we shouldn't associate with the intolerant.

I never said anything about isolationism either. Just because you're involved in world politics doesn't mean you have to be the world's policeman.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The military started to allow females and males to be trained jointly in basic training in 1982. You know it was really the feminist Nancy Reagan of which you reffer.

And now neither the army or the Marine Corps allow it. The Marine Corps never allowed it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"...don't intervene in foreign countries in the name of some people who are actually destroying our social fabric back home..."

Who is destroying our social fabric back home?

Those who own the media:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/An-Empire-Their-Own-Hollywood/dp/0385265573]An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood: Neal Gabler: 9780385265577: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]


The music behind Hollywood's golden age - Telegraph

Jews in Hollywood Jewish Actors Jewish Directors Jewish Producers

Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US Media

Jews In The American Media | Hollywood

Those who own psychology:

Judaism and Psychology - My Jewish Learning

Psychology in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

Jewish Women and the Feminist Revolution (Jewish Women's Archive)

Those who believe it's their entitlement to judge other people's performance of good works to represent a predestined calling because they're supposedly chosen by God and know what's the practical way to live your life better than you do:

Are the Jews the Chosen People? - Questions & Answers

The "Chosen People" | Jewish Virtual Library

The Chosen People - Torah.org

That's who.

Ahh a Jew hater, that explains a lot.

 

[Kondor3]

Who is destroying our social fabric back home?

Those who own the media:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/An-Empire-Their-Own-Hollywood/dp/0385265573]An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood: Neal Gabler: 9780385265577: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]


The music behind Hollywood's golden age - Telegraph

Jews in Hollywood Jewish Actors Jewish Directors Jewish Producers

Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US Media

Jews In The American Media | Hollywood

Those who own psychology:

Judaism and Psychology - My Jewish Learning

Psychology in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

Jewish Women and the Feminist Revolution (Jewish Women's Archive)

Those who believe it's their entitlement to judge other people's performance of good works to represent a predestined calling because they're supposedly chosen by God and know what's the practical way to live your life better than you do:

Are the Jews the Chosen People? - Questions & Answers

The "Chosen People" | Jewish Virtual Library

The Chosen People - Torah.org

That's who.

Ahh a Jew hater, that explains a lot.

Yeah... I was pretty sure that that was where 'it' was going but I wanted 'it' to condemn 'itself' on its own, without any help. Mission accomplished. Next Jew-hating troll, please.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The military started to allow females and males to be trained jointly in basic training in 1982. You know it was really the feminist Nancy Reagan of which you reffer.

The females and males did not have the same physical standards, dipshit. Not even close. And they were not co-ed companies. And women were not allowed in combat.

Actually for a short time the Army had coed training companies. Not only didn't it work but they had things like pregnant basic trainees.

 

[bripat9643]

[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION]

I never denied the value of police.

We're talking about foreign policy here, not social policy. I agree that human nature is gray, not necessarily bright.

Your position, isolationism simply isn't valid.

Your hatred of the Jew renders you useless.

What's useful is subjective. Judging people on the basis of being useful is intolerant. Judaism judges people that way as well, so Judaism is intolerant. Perhaps we shouldn't associate with the intolerant.

If you're having an operation on your heart, do you want a surgeon who got 'A's in medical school, or do you want someone who couldn't pass the course? Is expecting a surgeon to be useful in a heart bypass operation "intolerant?"

If you look up the definition of "liberal moron" in the dictionary, you'll find your picture there.

 

[SwimExpert]

More information is needed here. It's standard procedure that recruits graduating basic training are not required to meet the physical fitness standards. Instead, a lower standard is required by the end of basic training, with the regular standard being required in order to graduate advanced training.

 

[Peterf]

I am amazed that some messages suppose that the purpose of the USMC is to defeat the enemy. That's so olutdated!

Today the role of all the US armed forces is to make women feel good and sustain the illusion that they are, in every context, the equal of men.

What next? Will some misguided poster suggest that the prime purpose of fire services is to put out fires, rather than to advance the cause of gender and 'racial' equality?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

More information is needed here. It's standard procedure that recruits graduating basic training are not required to meet the physical fitness standards. Instead, a lower standard is required by the end of basic training, with the regular standard being required in order to graduate advanced training.

Not in the Marine Corps. One must pass the regular PT test before graduating.

The Marine Corps also changed how you are allowed to do Pull ups. When I was in you could "kip" use your back and legs to swing yourself up and help out your arms. Now it is straight up and down no swinging no KIP.

I could do 20 pull ups with a Kip, maybe 7 with out on a good day.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Come on guys, this issue has nothing to do with Obama or Democrats. This was the military, specifically the Marines, increasing standards. And if this doesn't pan out it won't be lowering standards, but simply returning them to what they were just a short while ago.

I'm torn on this one. While I have no issue with women serving in combat roles, and they should be held to higher physical standards than what they currently are. But women's bodies simply are not designed for pull ups, and pull ups are not the best test for combat readiness anyways.

Bring standards for women up to where men are for the run and the sit ups, and figure something else out for the pull ups.

 

[candycorn]

Come on guys, this issue has nothing to do with Obama or Democrats. This was the military, specifically the Marines, increasing standards. And if this doesn't pan out it won't be lowering standards, but simply returning them to what they were just a short while ago.

I'm torn on this one. While I have no issue with women serving in combat roles, and they should be held to higher physical standards than what they currently are. But women's bodies simply are not designed for pull ups, and pull ups are not the best test for combat readiness anyways.

Bring standards for women up to where men are for the run and the sit ups, and figure something else out for the pull ups.

It's okay, they can pull voting levers just fine as 332-206 proves.
Meanwhile Al Queda continues to master the monkey bars.