We face a harsh new reality.

[pknopp]

Gabbard was criticized for her clandestine meetings with the butcher of his own people, Assad.

LOL, you are as gullible as MAGA.

 

[pknopp]

You deliberately avoided the answer.

Dehumanize was the specific targeted action.

A zygote is a zygote. A narco terrorist is a narco terrorist.

The former is purely innocent. In fact, humans cannot get more innocent than that.

The latter are absolute pond scum and have the same value of life as a paramecium. They CHOSE to do what they are doing.

All you have to do is prove it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Trump administration brings a starkly different mind-set to the issue. Out with the Department of Defense; back to the Department of War. Well-established rules of engagement have yielded to blowing up small boats on the high seas. In place of standing with Ukraine’s embattled democracy against Russia’s invasion, the administration has adopted a course of moral equivalence between the two sides while seeking profits from the war through arms sales and mineral deals.

This is the fascist Trump regime – the glorification of war, and the use of war, to advance a political agenda hostile to established norms and to the benefit of anti-democratic despots and dictators.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Paywall.

At least copy and paste any actual points, other than they are upset were blowing up cartel boats and not wanting to go to war with Russia.

Typical deflection that doesn’t address the thread topic.

 

[theHawk]

Is that how you de-humanize people to justify their murder? Calling them "cartel thugs." Where is the evidence that they are members of a cartel?

The U.S. Border Patrol, Coast Guard, Navy, and intelligence agencies are constantly tracking the activities of the cartels in Latin America. You don’t think they know where their bases of operations are, and what boats are theirs?

Do you think the U.S. Navy is blowing up random boats for fun?

Do you realize how daft you sound?

 

[theHawk]

This is the fascist Trump regime – the glorification of war, and the use of war, to advance a political agenda hostile to established norms and to the benefit of anti-democratic despots and dictators.

Every war is advance a political agenda.

President Trump’s agenda is America First and now allowing foreign countries to run wild taking advantage of us. To not allow Latin America Cartel countries to continue to flood our country with narcotics.

You’re the one shilling for the regime of Venezuela.

 

[pknopp]

The U.S. Border Patrol, Coast Guard, Navy, and intelligence agencies are constantly tracking the activities of the cartels in Latin America. You don’t think they know where their bases of operations are, and what boats are theirs?

Do you think the U.S. Navy is blowing up random boats for fun?

Do you realize how daft you sound?

We were told Iraq had WMD also. Still believe that?

 

[theHawk]

I'm pro-life but when a zygote, it is a zygote. A fetus is a fetus. It doesn't mean any of them should be killed but the descriptions are accurate.

Yet you support a political party that legalizes killing them.

 

[theHawk]

We were told Iraq had WMD also. Still believe that?

No. We were lied to. You know, like President Trump has been saying for years.

Are you claiming Venezuela doesn’t produce narcotics?

 

[pknopp]

Yet you support a political party that legalizes killing them.

You are the pro-choice leader here.

 

[pknopp]

No. We were lied to. You know, like President Trump has been saying for years.

Are you claiming Venezuela doesn’t produce narcotics?

Idaho produces narcotics.

 

[Rogue AI]

More TDS whining on a topic with dozens of threads? How pathetic. This is of course a dead end issue. Why liberals want to openly support drug smugglers lawfully designated as terrorists is beyond any normal person. Disgraceful.

 

[sartre play]

Every war is advance a political agenda.

President Trump’s agenda is America First and now allowing foreign countries to run wild taking advantage of us. To not allow Latin America Cartel countries to continue to flood our country with narcotics.

You’re the one shilling for the regime of Venezuela.

No country should be running wild. Including ours.
SICK of wars, Would be nice if we worked on getting along.
But that's harder than having constant little wars.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The Monroe Doctrine doesn't justify extra judicial killings of humans in boats.

yeah that's what happened......play stupid games win stupid prizes...

 

[BackAgain]

The Monroe Doctrine doesn't justify extra judicial killings of humans in boats.

Sinking enemy boats often entails the loss of life to the humans in those boats.

But, are you certain that these sinking require judicial approval?

 

[Robert W]

As recently as a decade ago, it would not have been hard to unite a broad majority of Republicans and Democrats around a shared idea of what America's military power should be for.

Defense of the homeland. Deterrence of would-be aggressors. Cooperation with treaty allies and protection of kindred democracies confronting common foes. Humanitarian aid and relief. The security of the global commons: sea lanes, air corridors, undersea cables, digital networks. Upholding the laws of war.

In sum, the ability to prevent war wherever possible and win it whenever necessary — all for the sake of a safer, more open, rules-based world.

The Trump administration brings a starkly different mind-set to the issue. Out with the Department of Defense; back to the Department of War. Well-established rules of engagement have yielded to blowing up small boats on the high seas. In place of standing with Ukraine’s embattled democracy against Russia’s invasion, the administration has adopted a course of moral equivalence between the two sides while seeking profits from the war through arms sales and mineral deals.

Opinion | A Free World Needs a Strong America

Preventing a world where dictators can attack at will requires a military that has the right tools, the right tactics and the right culture.

www.nytimes.com

Before launching in to the usual personal attacks, dismissive deflections, whataboutisms, and disparagements of the source, I ask a question of those who disagree with the content of the editorial. What, IYO, did the authors get wrong?

I don't want to limit the scope of the discussion to the regime's activities in the Caribbean, but is this not true?

Well-established rules of engagement have yielded to blowing up small boats on the high seas.

If I get to read the article, then I can comment on it. (password needed)
I will however pontificate about Trump.
Trump being not perfect, has blundered over Ukraine. Blowing the boats up is an action I approve. Were Maduro ensuring the USA he will stop the drug boats and prove it, of course the problem will rest with him. He wants cash. And the boats represent money so we will see if he can stop sending them to the USA.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

As recently as a decade ago, it would not have been hard to unite a broad majority of Republicans and Democrats around a shared idea of what America's military power should be for.

Defense of the homeland. Deterrence of would-be aggressors. Cooperation with treaty allies and protection of kindred democracies confronting common foes. Humanitarian aid and relief. The security of the global commons: sea lanes, air corridors, undersea cables, digital networks. Upholding the laws of war.

In sum, the ability to prevent war wherever possible and win it whenever necessary — all for the sake of a safer, more open, rules-based world.

The Trump administration brings a starkly different mind-set to the issue. Out with the Department of Defense; back to the Department of War. Well-established rules of engagement have yielded to blowing up small boats on the high seas. In place of standing with Ukraine’s embattled democracy against Russia’s invasion, the administration has adopted a course of moral equivalence between the two sides while seeking profits from the war through arms sales and mineral deals.

Opinion | A Free World Needs a Strong America

Preventing a world where dictators can attack at will requires a military that has the right tools, the right tactics and the right culture.

www.nytimes.com

Before launching in to the usual personal attacks, dismissive deflections, whataboutisms, and disparagements of the source, I ask a question of those who disagree with the content of the editorial. What, IYO, did the authors get wrong?

I don't want to limit the scope of the discussion to the regime's activities in the Caribbean, but is this not true?

Well-established rules of engagement have yielded to blowing up small boats on the high seas.

If only you hadn't been so gung ho when Obama and Biden were the world's cowboys

If only

 

[CrusaderFrank]

However, Trump needs approval from Congress

 

[Robert W]

The Monroe Doctrine doesn't justify extra judicial killings of humans in boats.

Surely you have a way to blow up the drugs and not harm the humans? We want to learn how.

 

[pknopp]

Surely you have a way to blow up the drugs and not harm the humans? We want to learn how.

we have a way to stop the boats without blowing them up. We've done it many times.