We face a harsh new reality.

[berg80]

Democrats over all did. Recall, Gabbard was crushed over questioning it.

Gabbard was criticized for her clandestine meetings with the butcher of his own people, Assad.

 

[22lcidw]

We agree about something at last. Government debt, globally, is a real threat to international stability. trump is making the problem much worse.

To push the agendas you like, you have to put some skin into the game. Americans will have to be poorer to transfer our wealth to others on the planet. You see how we lament inflation and wages that stagnate at times. The social state that sends out checks and benefits hide our real decline. We need to get some manufacturing to return here, relearn how to do some things again and make sure we have at least some products and other things made here to keep the supply chain opened. The infant formula fiasco was a disgrace. Government is not a guarantee of a supply chain as it is sluggish to respond. There are many examples of problems with government industrial products, hardware, etc. The Francis Scott Key bridge redo is a joke.

 

[Darkwind]

I'm pro-life but when a zygote, it is a zygote. A fetus is a fetus. It doesn't mean any of them should be killed but the descriptions are accurate.

You deliberately avoided the answer.

Dehumanize was the specific targeted action.

A zygote is a zygote. A narco terrorist is a narco terrorist.

The former is purely innocent. In fact, humans cannot get more innocent than that.

The latter are absolute pond scum and have the same value of life as a paramecium. They CHOSE to do what they are doing.

 

[berg80]

There were no "well-established rules of engagement" that prevented a president from defending the country against high speed boats intent on delivering poison to our nation's citizens (and illegals).

What proof do you have that they were headed to the US or that they were carrying drugs?

 

[berg80]

A narco terrorist is a narco terrorist.

Unilaterally designating people "narco-terrorists," without evidence, is the kind of horseshit the entire operation is founded on. It does not convey the right for the regime to murder people.

 

[Darkwind]

Unilaterally designating people "narco-terrorists," without evidence, is the kind of horseshit the entire operation is founded on. It does not convey the right for the regime to murder people.

Did you just say without evidence?

 

[berg80]

Keep crying about cartel thugs being blown up.

You people are nuts.

America’s Cold War strategists also knew that previous concepts of security were inadequate in an era of long-range bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles. A return to isolationism was the road to a second Pearl Harbor.

They knew that the United States could not hope to win an ideological struggle against Communist adversaries if we were faithless to our own ideals. Among the reasons that President Harry Truman desegregated the armed forces was that the United States could hardly offer itself as a model of freedom and justice while enforcing racist policies in the ranks of those we sent around the world to advance those values.

They knew that deterring the Soviet Union required preserving America’s scientific and technological edge, which in turn called for national investments in research and development and partnerships with American universities. The first modern computer, ENIAC, was developed for the Army at the University of Pennsylvania; the Tomahawk cruise missile was largely developed by Johns Hopkins’s Applied Physics Lab.

GFY.

 

[berg80]

Did you just say without evidence?

The regime's claims do not represent evidence.

AI Overview

Congress is still waiting for evidence to support the Trump administration's claims about the individuals killed in a series of military strikes on suspected drug-smuggling boats in the Caribbean. The administration has provided no public evidence to back its assertions, leading to bipartisan demands for transparency and an ongoing congressional investigation.

 

[Darkwind]

What proof do you have that they were headed to the US or that they were carrying drugs?

Not a requirement. They are PART OF a network. That network ends in the USA.

Today, the number 1 killer of Americans aged 18 to 44 is fentanyl and opiates.

Are you even aware of how many deaths in the USA over the past two decades these people have caused?

 

[Darkwind]

The regime's claims do not represent evidence.

Other than the evidence has been provided, your own research, if you ever really believed in that, would provide all the proof you need.

google.com

Go find it, I am not going to be your curiosity seeker. If you don't have the intellectual curiosity, that is on you.

 

[22lcidw]

The Monroe Doctrine doesn't justify extra judicial killings of humans in boats.

You seem to think that the people killed are holy "G rated" flowers of humanity. Drug cartels are nasty and sadistic. We can argue perhaps the lack of opportunities in these countries that helps this along. The fact is drugs are affecting us negatively in a huge way. It's not just the deaths here. It is the resources spent on those who have had problems with drugs and still do. You opened the border to invaders because you want a progressive Socialist Communist government. We are returning the favor now.

 

[berg80]

Not a requirement.

Wait. You're saying the killing of people in international waters doesn't need to be justified by providing proof they pose a threat to people in the US?

That means the regime can kill anyone, anywhere in the world, for any reason, and not have to explain why.

 

[berg80]

Other than the evidence has been provided, your own research, if you ever really believed in that, would provide all the proof you need.

google.com

Go find it, I am not going to be your curiosity seeker. If you don't have the intellectual curiosity, that is on you.

Congress is still waiting for evidence to support the Trump administration's claims about the individuals killed in a series of military strikes on suspected drug-smuggling boats in the Caribbean. The administration has provided no public evidence to back its assertions, leading to bipartisan demands for transparency and an ongoing congressional investigation.

Everything else you wrote is just noise.

 

[Darkwind]

Wait. You're saying the killing of people in international waters doesn't need to be justified by providing proof they pose a threat to people in the US?

That means the regime can kill anyone, anywhere in the world, for any reason, and not have to explain why.

Are you completely ignorant of international maritime law.

Were you even aware that vessels in open international waters are REQUIED to fly a flag of their nation?

Those who don't are considered pirates and they ARE fair game.

But that is just an aside and just a tiny portion of the evidence presented.

Of course, we all know that the Venezuelan people always prefer to travel on known drug-running lanes in 1-million-dollar boats. When they aren't scrounging in the dirt of their country trying just to feed their families.

 

[Darkwind]

Congress is still waiting for evidence to support the Trump administration's claims about the individuals killed in a series of military strikes on suspected drug-smuggling boats in the Caribbean. The administration has provided no public evidence to back its assertions, leading to bipartisan demands for transparency and an ongoing congressional investigation.

Everything else you wrote is just noise.

You are often just noise, but you do realize that this administration HAS debriefed Congress.

 

[berg80]

Were you even aware that vessels in open international waters are REQUIED to fly a flag of their nation?

Gosh, you aren't saying that is justification for killing the occupants of the boats are you? Were the survivors of the 9/2 strike suppose to be waving a flag of the blown up boat's origin to prevent them from being illegally targeted by the US military?

 

[berg80]

You are often just noise, but you do realize that this administration HAS debriefed Congress.

Unsatisfactorily, according to recipients of the briefings. Largely because the regime offered no evidence to justify its actions.

 

[Darkwind]

Gosh, you aren't saying that is justification for killing the occupants of the boats are you? Were the survivors of the 9/2 strike suppose to be waving a flag of the blown up boat's origin to prevent them from being illegally targeted by the US military?

I'm saying that you believe that the occupants of these boats are innocent. They are pirates not innocents.

Those survivors were attempting to save the vessel's cargo for their masters.

We double-tap targets all the time, and there is nothing illegal with that. Of course, you'd have to stop cherry picking small segements of what you think are gotcha parts of the law and instead take a look at those laws that do permit this.

You won't, so I'll just end it here.

These are not innocents being indiscriminately killed. They are active terrorists moving a deadly product along known networks for several reasons, but the only reason that matters to us is ending the death of Americans.

Good luck with your intellectual dissonance.

 

[Darkwind]

Unsatisfactorily, according to recipients of the briefings. Largely because the regime offered no evidence to justify its actions.

Who the **** cares what Schumer thinks is satisfactory?

He'll lie about it regardless of the facts.

Have a nice day.

 

[berg80]

I'm saying that you believe that the occupants of these boats are innocent.

I never said they were innocent. I said the regime has not produced evidence of their guilt. I've also said US and international law does not allow for their murder on the open sea even if they were transporting drugs. Because they don't.