We can't have electric cars for everyone.........

[Sunsettommy]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

??? But it is true that you can't have electric cars for everyone... I mean... For a damn good while yet. Not only would we have to figure out how to build NEW battery technology as current flat out isn't possible for everyone to have one, we'd have to mass produce them at god knows what rate that we aren't even close to even with the wrong type of battery.

I'm actually writing an article right now that touches on this dangerous plan of mandates, schedules and phase out.. There's multiple moving parts here.. The religious zealotry to purge all "carbon based" generation is being put forward before anyone sane figures out how wind and solar as the prime "alternatives" will guarantee demand on the grid 24/7/365. This is not practical or feasible for the next several decades if at alll. WHY? Because solar only generates 6 to 9 hours a day and is subject to location, lattitude and weather. Some days even in the most prime regions like say Tucson, there are at least 40 days a years where solar production will be 50% of peak or less. In a NON arid belt, That number of days increases to more than 100 days.

So -- the wet dream is "grid scale battery storage".. A facility being built at Moss Landing in Cali will provide just 4 hours of storage for 300MWatts.. This is the EQUIVALENT of charging 17,000 electric vehicles.. So to EXTEND this to a primary reliance on solar and wind, you'd have to TRIPLE the Production during prime solar hours just to charge enough "grid scale storage" to STRETCH solar out to 24 hours a day..

That one facility uses 92 TONS of just the lithium element in the batteries at that facility.. Thats about 4 months of MINING in Sonora Mexico (one of the largest lithium mines in the world). And equivalent to the amount of lithium in those 17,000 Tesla Model S cars.

The idiocy of all this is the ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT of making the entire TRANSPORT energy sector AND grid generation Battery Centric at the same time. NONE of that ADDS grid generation capacity -- in reality it's a drain on real grid generation capacity..

And the morons in charge of this cluster fuck will hav batteries charging batteries if we let them proceed with this greenie jihadist conquest plan.. And PEOPLE WILL DIE, the ENVIRONMENT WILL SUFFER and we will WASTE TRILLIONS of dollars on this hare-brained scheme.

Who is advocating elimination of all internal combustion cars before we have developed other sources of energy that work just as well? Lots of people want to make the change as soon as possible, but who is saying " do it before it is feasible"?

GM already stated they will phase out gasoline cars by 2035, its in the article you haven't read.

Wimmer’s remarks come on the heels of GM’s announcement that it will phase out all gas internal combustion engines (ICE) by 2035. Other manufacturers, including Mini, have followed suit with similar announcements.

GM is heading to a bankruptcy future.......

I'm pretty sure GM isn't the only car manufacturer.

There is a reason why Toyota is the worlds largest car maker, while GM was once the worlds largest COMPANY in the world is now half the size of Toyota, because they made so many mistakes over the decades.........

Your reading skills seems very weak these days, here is part of the quote I gave you once already:

".....Other manufacturers, including Mini, have followed suit with similar announcements."

But you are correct a few others will go bankrupt too, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[flacaltenn]

If gas cars were banned today, they would still be on the road at least 60 years in the future. nobody is forcing the change to all electric transportation before we are capable of doing it. Only an idiot would believe that will happen.

Well idiots and stoners are busy at work designing your Green Bad Deal... The money to ATTEMPT to make their wet dreams come true will RAIN LIKE STIMULUS checks.. Wont HAVE to ban ICE cars, they'll just subsidize the FUCK out of them while they make gasoline and ammunition unaffordable. That's how these mental midgets roll. And when the bodies start piling in mid winter cold or summer heat -- they'll blame the fossil fuel industry for thwarting them..

Your High Priesthood of CATASTROPHIC IMMINENT GLOBAL WARMING HAS been making grade schoolers piss their pants and think they're all gonna die before they reach puberty and they MUST save the planet with WIND AND SOLAR AND BY GOD -- they will make this happen as sure as there is a mask on every face and a recycling center in every home.

30 YEARS of intimidation and mind fucking.. MOST of those kids are now running the country..

Even if they have to FORCE WIND AND SOLAR to BE ALTERNATIVES by mining every last ounce of cobalt and lithium with CHILD SLAVE LABOR in the CONGO and Azerbazjan and have MOUNTAINS of grid storage batteries charging EVERY ELECTRIC battery packed toxic dump of a vehicle for when the sun dont shine and the wind dont blow....

But you dont care.. You got rid of the meanies who stood in the way of these Frankenstein monsters that you help create...

 

[flacaltenn]

You can be sure the horse and buggy crowd said the same kind of thing about gasoline powered motor cars back in the day.

Bullshit. Gasoline was cheap and plentiful to support horseless buggies -- your mental midgets intend to make electricity rare and expensive instead of cheap and abundant.

And at the same time INCREASE DEMAND for electricity to charge all the EVs and have no electricity generated by wind 3 days a week or when solar is not available. THE DESIGN OF THEIR wet dream is gonna kill people around the world.. But that's really their goal.. Too many people is the problem to them. Scratch a GWarmer fanatic and you'll hear that.

They are too stupid to understand that population and birth rate DECREASE as development LIFTS the standard of living.. And they HATE consumption.. Especially RELIABLE, ABUNDANT AND CHEAP energy as we have now.

If you wanted to "fix" CO2 emissions and solve the problem in 2 or 5 years -- NUCLEAR is the FUTURE,. Windmills and cooking/heating with the sun is the past..

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

??? But it is true that you can't have electric cars for everyone... I mean... For a damn good while yet. Not only would we have to figure out how to build NEW battery technology as current flat out isn't possible for everyone to have one, we'd have to mass produce them at god knows what rate that we aren't even close to even with the wrong type of battery.

I'm actually writing an article right now that touches on this dangerous plan of mandates, schedules and phase out.. There's multiple moving parts here.. The religious zealotry to purge all "carbon based" generation is being put forward before anyone sane figures out how wind and solar as the prime "alternatives" will guarantee demand on the grid 24/7/365. This is not practical or feasible for the next several decades if at alll. WHY? Because solar only generates 6 to 9 hours a day and is subject to location, lattitude and weather. Some days even in the most prime regions like say Tucson, there are at least 40 days a years where solar production will be 50% of peak or less. In a NON arid belt, That number of days increases to more than 100 days.

So -- the wet dream is "grid scale battery storage".. A facility being built at Moss Landing in Cali will provide just 4 hours of storage for 300MWatts.. This is the EQUIVALENT of charging 17,000 electric vehicles.. So to EXTEND this to a primary reliance on solar and wind, you'd have to TRIPLE the Production during prime solar hours just to charge enough "grid scale storage" to STRETCH solar out to 24 hours a day..

That one facility uses 92 TONS of just the lithium element in the batteries at that facility.. Thats about 4 months of MINING in Sonora Mexico (one of the largest lithium mines in the world). And equivalent to the amount of lithium in those 17,000 Tesla Model S cars.

The idiocy of all this is the ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT of making the entire TRANSPORT energy sector AND grid generation Battery Centric at the same time. NONE of that ADDS grid generation capacity -- in reality it's a drain on real grid generation capacity..

And the morons in charge of this cluster fuck will hav batteries charging batteries if we let them proceed with this greenie jihadist conquest plan.. And PEOPLE WILL DIE, the ENVIRONMENT WILL SUFFER and we will WASTE TRILLIONS of dollars on this hare-brained scheme.

Who is advocating elimination of all internal combustion cars before we have developed other sources of energy that work just as well? Lots of people want to make the change as soon as possible, but who is saying " do it before it is feasible"?

AOC,John Kerry and others i the Biden admin. and they want it by 2030 or 2035 at the latest,

 

[flacaltenn]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

??? But it is true that you can't have electric cars for everyone... I mean... For a damn good while yet. Not only would we have to figure out how to build NEW battery technology as current flat out isn't possible for everyone to have one, we'd have to mass produce them at god knows what rate that we aren't even close to even with the wrong type of battery.

I'm actually writing an article right now that touches on this dangerous plan of mandates, schedules and phase out.. There's multiple moving parts here.. The religious zealotry to purge all "carbon based" generation is being put forward before anyone sane figures out how wind and solar as the prime "alternatives" will guarantee demand on the grid 24/7/365. This is not practical or feasible for the next several decades if at alll. WHY? Because solar only generates 6 to 9 hours a day and is subject to location, lattitude and weather. Some days even in the most prime regions like say Tucson, there are at least 40 days a years where solar production will be 50% of peak or less. In a NON arid belt, That number of days increases to more than 100 days.

So -- the wet dream is "grid scale battery storage".. A facility being built at Moss Landing in Cali will provide just 4 hours of storage for 300MWatts.. This is the EQUIVALENT of charging 17,000 electric vehicles.. So to EXTEND this to a primary reliance on solar and wind, you'd have to TRIPLE the Production during prime solar hours just to charge enough "grid scale storage" to STRETCH solar out to 24 hours a day..

That one facility uses 92 TONS of just the lithium element in the batteries at that facility.. Thats about 4 months of MINING in Sonora Mexico (one of the largest lithium mines in the world). And equivalent to the amount of lithium in those 17,000 Tesla Model S cars.

The idiocy of all this is the ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT of making the entire TRANSPORT energy sector AND grid generation Battery Centric at the same time. NONE of that ADDS grid generation capacity -- in reality it's a drain on real grid generation capacity..

And the morons in charge of this cluster fuck will hav batteries charging batteries if we let them proceed with this greenie jihadist conquest plan.. And PEOPLE WILL DIE, the ENVIRONMENT WILL SUFFER and we will WASTE TRILLIONS of dollars on this hare-brained scheme.

Who is advocating elimination of all internal combustion cars before we have developed other sources of energy that work just as well? Lots of people want to make the change as soon as possible, but who is saying " do it before it is feasible"?

Are you serious? What is the current mandates in California right now for 2040 in terms of "renewable grid content"?? THEN -- what is their MANDATE for Electric vehicles by 2035?

Dont ask for help if you're this clueless.. Cali is DISMANTLING their grid generation before they have a clear technical plan.. Wind and solar are NOT ALTERNATIVES !!!! THey are mere and unreliable supplements, but that's doesn't matter to these zealots. And many of the SAME ZEALOTS are now in the Biden Admin pushing us to the edge of grid destruction..

We'll all be burning garbage to keep alive and calling it "green biomass".. THat's not a joke.. That's an alternative on their list "clean green" MASSIVELY POLLUTING and unhealthy garbage incineration. The UK and parts of US fell for this bait/switch and are now realizing THAT mistake..

THey are mere and unreliable supplements, but that's doesn't matter to these zealots.


Actually, it does matter to the zealots....it is what they actually want...less energy, less efficient energy. Why do they want those seemingly insane things? Because they believe the world is overpopulated with humans and that humans are destroying the world......they do not want cheap, efficient energy because that would allow humans to grow the population even more.....

So....we want cheaper more reliable, clean energy, they want less energy, and less efficient energy as a check on human beings....

This is the mistake so many normal people make when they discuss energy with left wingers....we are not talking about the same goals.......which is why their policies seem so insane.....and too many of us think they are just dumb.....they aren't dumb, they have an agenda.

You're actually correct. It's about CONTROL of consumption. And stifling economic growth and reducing human footprint..

Thats why we're pushing foreign aid to the 3rd world that's heavy on "renewables" and catering to subsistence farming instead of advanced agriculture tech and tractors. They dont GET vehicles and infrastructure, then they can not contribute to "destroying the planet".

When in REALITY-- economic/tech advancement in ITSELF is the solution to over-population.. As usual, the left have this bass-ackwards...

 

[BULLDOG]

If gas cars were banned today, they would still be on the road at least 60 years in the future. nobody is forcing the change to all electric transportation before we are capable of doing it. Only an idiot would believe that will happen.

Well idiots and stoners are busy at work designing your Green Bad Deal... The money to ATTEMPT to make their wet dreams come true will RAIN LIKE STIMULUS checks.. Wont HAVE to ban ICE cars, they'll just subsidize the FUCK out of them while they make gasoline and ammunition unaffordable. That's how these mental midgets roll. And when the bodies start piling in mid winter cold or summer heat -- they'll blame the fossil fuel industry for thwarting them..

Your High Priesthood of CATASTROPHIC IMMINENT GLOBAL WARMING HAS been making grade schoolers piss their pants and think they're all gonna die before they reach puberty and they MUST save the planet with WIND AND SOLAR AND BY GOD -- they will make this happen as sure as there is a mask on every face and a recycling center in every home.

30 YEARS of intimidation and mind fucking.. MOST of those kids are now running the country..

Even if they have to FORCE WIND AND SOLAR to BE ALTERNATIVES by mining every last ounce of cobalt and lithium with CHILD SLAVE LABOR in the CONGO and Azerbazjan and have MOUNTAINS of grid storage batteries charging EVERY ELECTRIC battery packed toxic dump of a vehicle for when the sun dont shine and the wind dont blow....

But you dont care.. You got rid of the meanies who stood in the way of these Frankenstein monsters that you help create...

Wow. Do you ever even consider how your constant accusations and character assassination's have reduced you to making bizarrely absurd claims that no rational person could believe? You just claimed that everyone who believes what the vast majority of scientists tell us wants us to run out of fuel, but you never say why all those millions of people would want such a terrible thing to happen. You do the same with anyone who has political disagreements with you. With a straight face, you claim everyone but your party wants to destroy America, without the slightest idea why anyone would want to destroy their own country. For god's sake, at least try to come back to reality.

 

[BULLDOG]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

??? But it is true that you can't have electric cars for everyone... I mean... For a damn good while yet. Not only would we have to figure out how to build NEW battery technology as current flat out isn't possible for everyone to have one, we'd have to mass produce them at god knows what rate that we aren't even close to even with the wrong type of battery.

I'm actually writing an article right now that touches on this dangerous plan of mandates, schedules and phase out.. There's multiple moving parts here.. The religious zealotry to purge all "carbon based" generation is being put forward before anyone sane figures out how wind and solar as the prime "alternatives" will guarantee demand on the grid 24/7/365. This is not practical or feasible for the next several decades if at alll. WHY? Because solar only generates 6 to 9 hours a day and is subject to location, lattitude and weather. Some days even in the most prime regions like say Tucson, there are at least 40 days a years where solar production will be 50% of peak or less. In a NON arid belt, That number of days increases to more than 100 days.

So -- the wet dream is "grid scale battery storage".. A facility being built at Moss Landing in Cali will provide just 4 hours of storage for 300MWatts.. This is the EQUIVALENT of charging 17,000 electric vehicles.. So to EXTEND this to a primary reliance on solar and wind, you'd have to TRIPLE the Production during prime solar hours just to charge enough "grid scale storage" to STRETCH solar out to 24 hours a day..

That one facility uses 92 TONS of just the lithium element in the batteries at that facility.. Thats about 4 months of MINING in Sonora Mexico (one of the largest lithium mines in the world). And equivalent to the amount of lithium in those 17,000 Tesla Model S cars.

The idiocy of all this is the ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT of making the entire TRANSPORT energy sector AND grid generation Battery Centric at the same time. NONE of that ADDS grid generation capacity -- in reality it's a drain on real grid generation capacity..

And the morons in charge of this cluster fuck will hav batteries charging batteries if we let them proceed with this greenie jihadist conquest plan.. And PEOPLE WILL DIE, the ENVIRONMENT WILL SUFFER and we will WASTE TRILLIONS of dollars on this hare-brained scheme.

Who is advocating elimination of all internal combustion cars before we have developed other sources of energy that work just as well? Lots of people want to make the change as soon as possible, but who is saying " do it before it is feasible"?

AOC,John Kerry and others i the Biden admin. and they want it by 2030 or 2035 at the latest,

None of them said do it before we are prepared to do it. Setting a goal is a perfectly reasonable thing, but nobody will eliminate a needed source of energy before a suitable replacement is secured. Quit being so silly.

 

[there4eyeM]

If motor vehicles were of a practical weight, it would be a lot easier. There are many factors that play into a future of population mobility. Covid showed us that commuting itself can be virtual, staying home and going to work at the same time. As long as we remain wedded to the past as if it were permanent, we are doomed to failure.

 

[there4eyeM]

An enormous amount of transportation could be accomplished with vehicles small enough to be charged at home with solar panels.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

??? But it is true that you can't have electric cars for everyone... I mean... For a damn good while yet. Not only would we have to figure out how to build NEW battery technology as current flat out isn't possible for everyone to have one, we'd have to mass produce them at god knows what rate that we aren't even close to even with the wrong type of battery.

I'm actually writing an article right now that touches on this dangerous plan of mandates, schedules and phase out.. There's multiple moving parts here.. The religious zealotry to purge all "carbon based" generation is being put forward before anyone sane figures out how wind and solar as the prime "alternatives" will guarantee demand on the grid 24/7/365. This is not practical or feasible for the next several decades if at alll. WHY? Because solar only generates 6 to 9 hours a day and is subject to location, lattitude and weather. Some days even in the most prime regions like say Tucson, there are at least 40 days a years where solar production will be 50% of peak or less. In a NON arid belt, That number of days increases to more than 100 days.

So -- the wet dream is "grid scale battery storage".. A facility being built at Moss Landing in Cali will provide just 4 hours of storage for 300MWatts.. This is the EQUIVALENT of charging 17,000 electric vehicles.. So to EXTEND this to a primary reliance on solar and wind, you'd have to TRIPLE the Production during prime solar hours just to charge enough "grid scale storage" to STRETCH solar out to 24 hours a day..

That one facility uses 92 TONS of just the lithium element in the batteries at that facility.. Thats about 4 months of MINING in Sonora Mexico (one of the largest lithium mines in the world). And equivalent to the amount of lithium in those 17,000 Tesla Model S cars.

The idiocy of all this is the ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT of making the entire TRANSPORT energy sector AND grid generation Battery Centric at the same time. NONE of that ADDS grid generation capacity -- in reality it's a drain on real grid generation capacity..

And the morons in charge of this cluster fuck will hav batteries charging batteries if we let them proceed with this greenie jihadist conquest plan.. And PEOPLE WILL DIE, the ENVIRONMENT WILL SUFFER and we will WASTE TRILLIONS of dollars on this hare-brained scheme.

Who is advocating elimination of all internal combustion cars before we have developed other sources of energy that work just as well? Lots of people want to make the change as soon as possible, but who is saying " do it before it is feasible"?

AOC,John Kerry and others i the Biden admin. and they want it by 2030 or 2035 at the latest,

None of them said do it before we are prepared to do it. Setting a goal is a perfectly reasonable thing, but nobody will eliminate a needed source of energy before a suitable replacement is secured. Quit being so silly.

Look retard AOC and Kerry CLAIM the earth will die by 2030 if we dont get rid of everything and go green.

 

[Blues Man]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

Toyota warns that the grid and infrastructure simply aren’t there to support the electrification of the private car fleet. A 2017 U.S. government study found that we would need about 8,500 strategically-placed charge stations to support a fleet of just 7 million electric cars. That’s about six times the current number of electric cars but no one is talking about supporting just 7 million cars. We should be talking about powering about 300 million within the next 20 years, if all manufacturers follow GM and stop making ICE cars.
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But instead of building a bigger boat, we may be shrinking the boat we have now. The power outages in California and Texas — the largest U.S. states by population and by car ownership — exposed issues with powering needs even at current usage levels. Increasing usage of wind and solar, neither of which can be throttled to meet demand, and both of which prove unreliable in crisis, has driven some coal and natural gas generators offline. Wind simply runs counter to needs — it generates too much power when we tend not to need it, and generates too little when we need more. The storage capacity to account for this doesn’t exist yet

Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. Is Anyone Listening?

pjmedia.com

But the truth is this......the democrat party doesn't care about any of this...they don't want everyone being able to drive anywhere, anytime....the thought of that makes them crazy.....they want people to be forced onto public transportation....which will drastically limit lifestyle choices..while democrat party royalty will have all the energy and vehicles they want.......

Don't ignore the good in favor of the perfect.

An EV is a perfectly good choice for a daily driver. Most people drive less than 50 miles a day and wouldn't need to charge their cars anywhere but at home overnight.

EVs have their place

 

[Blues Man]

An enormous amount of transportation could be accomplished with vehicles small enough to be charged at home with solar panels.

No thanks those micro cars are death traps

 

[Shelzin]

You know what's really... Really bad?

The petrodollar is essentially... The US dollar... Right? Why is the US dollar the global currency anymore if it's not used as the default petrol buying mechanism?

 

[flacaltenn]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

Toyota warns that the grid and infrastructure simply aren’t there to support the electrification of the private car fleet. A 2017 U.S. government study found that we would need about 8,500 strategically-placed charge stations to support a fleet of just 7 million electric cars. That’s about six times the current number of electric cars but no one is talking about supporting just 7 million cars. We should be talking about powering about 300 million within the next 20 years, if all manufacturers follow GM and stop making ICE cars.
----
But instead of building a bigger boat, we may be shrinking the boat we have now. The power outages in California and Texas — the largest U.S. states by population and by car ownership — exposed issues with powering needs even at current usage levels. Increasing usage of wind and solar, neither of which can be throttled to meet demand, and both of which prove unreliable in crisis, has driven some coal and natural gas generators offline. Wind simply runs counter to needs — it generates too much power when we tend not to need it, and generates too little when we need more. The storage capacity to account for this doesn’t exist yet

Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. Is Anyone Listening?

pjmedia.com

But the truth is this......the democrat party doesn't care about any of this...they don't want everyone being able to drive anywhere, anytime....the thought of that makes them crazy.....they want people to be forced onto public transportation....which will drastically limit lifestyle choices..while democrat party royalty will have all the energy and vehicles they want.......

Don't ignore the good in favor of the perfect.

An EV is a perfectly good choice for a daily driver. Most people drive less than 50 miles a day and wouldn't need to charge their cars anywhere but at home overnight.

EVs have their place

EVs should be a consumer choice.. NEVER A MANDATE to try and jam deadlines for eliminating choices to "save the planet"... The plan to put that burden on the electrical grid will come with a heavy toll in deaths, damage to the economy and the ENVIRONMENT ITSELF....

IF -- the architects of this nightmare are politicians and the minions of morons in govt bureaucracy pushing wind and solar as our only path to survival...

 

[there4eyeM]

Idiotic consumer choices combined with idiotic voter choices are clear evidence of defective choice making. This addiction to excess and irresponsibility is the problem. When wisdom is replaced with whim, the outcome is dim.

 

[westwall]

Idiotic consumer choices combined with idiotic voter choices are clear evidence of defective choice making. This addiction to excess and irresponsibility is the problem. When wisdom is replaced with whim, the outcome is dim.

If you build something cool the population will buy it because it's cool. Government mandates don't drive innovation, they slow it down. If a technology is great it sells itself.

That should tell you where EV technology is right now.

 

[BULLDOG]

Idiotic consumer choices combined with idiotic voter choices are clear evidence of defective choice making. This addiction to excess and irresponsibility is the problem. When wisdom is replaced with whim, the outcome is dim.

If you build something cool the population will buy it because it's cool. Government mandates don't drive innovation, they slow it down. If a technology is great it sells itself.

That should tell you where EV technology is right now.

Really? Then why did George Mitchel rely so heavily on federal research to interest him in fracking, and federal grants to pay for his first several test wells while developing fracking strategies. Without federal incentives, he would have never even considered fracking.,

 

[there4eyeM]

Idiotic consumer choices combined with idiotic voter choices are clear evidence of defective choice making. This addiction to excess and irresponsibility is the problem. When wisdom is replaced with whim, the outcome is dim.

If you build something cool the population will buy it because it's cool. Government mandates don't drive innovation, they slow it down. If a technology is great it sells itself.

That should tell you where EV technology is right now.

Thanks, and we agree that many innovations had nothing to do with subsidies. The only thing that really upsets me is propaganda against things that could help. Your quoted post is reasonable. Many here are merely echoing damaging attitudes.
Insisting that three ton "S.U.V.s" are a standard is unreasonable. While trying to outlaw them is also unreasonable, refusing to see that light, rechargeable vehicles could contribute significantly to travel needs is counter productive. I fail to understand the out of hand rejection of exciting, interesting alternatives.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Perhaps those claiming our government is not trying to shut down oil and gas can explain why it cancelled all the leases and pipeline?

 

[Blues Man]

The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....

Toyota warns that the grid and infrastructure simply aren’t there to support the electrification of the private car fleet. A 2017 U.S. government study found that we would need about 8,500 strategically-placed charge stations to support a fleet of just 7 million electric cars. That’s about six times the current number of electric cars but no one is talking about supporting just 7 million cars. We should be talking about powering about 300 million within the next 20 years, if all manufacturers follow GM and stop making ICE cars.
----
But instead of building a bigger boat, we may be shrinking the boat we have now. The power outages in California and Texas — the largest U.S. states by population and by car ownership — exposed issues with powering needs even at current usage levels. Increasing usage of wind and solar, neither of which can be throttled to meet demand, and both of which prove unreliable in crisis, has driven some coal and natural gas generators offline. Wind simply runs counter to needs — it generates too much power when we tend not to need it, and generates too little when we need more. The storage capacity to account for this doesn’t exist yet

Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. Is Anyone Listening?

pjmedia.com

But the truth is this......the democrat party doesn't care about any of this...they don't want everyone being able to drive anywhere, anytime....the thought of that makes them crazy.....they want people to be forced onto public transportation....which will drastically limit lifestyle choices..while democrat party royalty will have all the energy and vehicles they want.......

Don't ignore the good in favor of the perfect.

An EV is a perfectly good choice for a daily driver. Most people drive less than 50 miles a day and wouldn't need to charge their cars anywhere but at home overnight.

EVs have their place

EVs should be a consumer choice.. NEVER A MANDATE to try and jam deadlines for eliminating choices to "save the planet"... The plan to put that burden on the electrical grid will come with a heavy toll in deaths, damage to the economy and the ENVIRONMENT ITSELF....

IF -- the architects of this nightmare are politicians and the minions of morons in govt bureaucracy pushing wind and solar as our only path to survival...

Where did i say it would be a mandate?