flacaltenn
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Where did i say it would be a mandate?Don't ignore the good in favor of the perfect.The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....
Toyota warns that the grid and infrastructure simply arenāt there to support the electrification of the private car fleet. A 2017 U.S. government study found that we would need about 8,500 strategically-placed charge stations to support a fleet of just 7 million electric cars. Thatās about six times the current number of electric cars but no one is talking about supporting just 7 million cars. We should be talking about powering about 300 million within the next 20 years, if all manufacturers follow GM and stop making ICE cars.
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But instead of building a bigger boat, we may be shrinking the boat we have now. The power outages in California and Texas ā the largest U.S. states by population and by car ownership ā exposed issues with powering needs even at current usage levels. Increasing usage of wind and solar, neither of which can be throttled to meet demand, and both of which prove unreliable in crisis, has driven some coal and natural gas generators offline. Wind simply runs counter to needs ā it generates too much power when we tend not to need it, and generates too little when we need more. The storage capacity to account for this doesnāt exist yet
But the truth is this......the democrat party doesn't care about any of this...they don't want everyone being able to drive anywhere, anytime....the thought of that makes them crazy.....they want people to be forced onto public transportation....which will drastically limit lifestyle choices..while democrat party royalty will have all the energy and vehicles they want.......
An EV is a perfectly good choice for a daily driver. Most people drive less than 50 miles a day and wouldn't need to charge their cars anywhere but at home overnight.
EVs have their place
EVs should be a consumer choice.. NEVER A MANDATE to try and jam deadlines for eliminating choices to "save the planet"... The plan to put that burden on the electrical grid will come with a heavy toll in deaths, damage to the economy and the ENVIRONMENT ITSELF....
IF -- the architects of this nightmare are politicians and the minions of morons in govt bureaucracy pushing wind and solar as our only path to survival...
You didn't say it.. You're the one ignoring the cliff jumping mandates that BACK this move. I'm fine with EVs -- especially electrics, especially HYBRIDS, but the moronic plan to FORCE A COMPLETE SHIFT with a battery centric grid alongside a battery centric vehicle fleet solution is bad ju-ju for health/safety and the environment.,
It's going to be a long long time before we move to all electric vehicles.. It just can't be done in the next couple decades like some of these idiots think. But It will eventually happenWhere did i say it would be a mandate?Don't ignore the good in favor of the perfect.The fairy tale of electric cars.......now the truth....
Toyota warns that the grid and infrastructure simply arenāt there to support the electrification of the private car fleet. A 2017 U.S. government study found that we would need about 8,500 strategically-placed charge stations to support a fleet of just 7 million electric cars. Thatās about six times the current number of electric cars but no one is talking about supporting just 7 million cars. We should be talking about powering about 300 million within the next 20 years, if all manufacturers follow GM and stop making ICE cars.
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But instead of building a bigger boat, we may be shrinking the boat we have now. The power outages in California and Texas ā the largest U.S. states by population and by car ownership ā exposed issues with powering needs even at current usage levels. Increasing usage of wind and solar, neither of which can be throttled to meet demand, and both of which prove unreliable in crisis, has driven some coal and natural gas generators offline. Wind simply runs counter to needs ā it generates too much power when we tend not to need it, and generates too little when we need more. The storage capacity to account for this doesnāt exist yet
But the truth is this......the democrat party doesn't care about any of this...they don't want everyone being able to drive anywhere, anytime....the thought of that makes them crazy.....they want people to be forced onto public transportation....which will drastically limit lifestyle choices..while democrat party royalty will have all the energy and vehicles they want.......
An EV is a perfectly good choice for a daily driver. Most people drive less than 50 miles a day and wouldn't need to charge their cars anywhere but at home overnight.
EVs have their place
EVs should be a consumer choice.. NEVER A MANDATE to try and jam deadlines for eliminating choices to "save the planet"... The plan to put that burden on the electrical grid will come with a heavy toll in deaths, damage to the economy and the ENVIRONMENT ITSELF....
IF -- the architects of this nightmare are politicians and the minions of morons in govt bureaucracy pushing wind and solar as our only path to survival...
You didn't say it.. You're the one ignoring the cliff jumping mandates that BACK this move. I'm fine with EVs -- especially electrics, especially HYBRIDS, but the moronic plan to FORCE A COMPLETE SHIFT with a battery centric grid alongside a battery centric vehicle fleet solution is bad ju-ju for health/safety and the environment.,
It's going to be a long long time before we move to all electric vehicles.. It just can't be done in the next couple decades like some of these idiots think. But It will eventually happen
But its NOT gonna be "a long long time". The eco-frauds are in charge. California has a 2035 Mandate on the EVs sold in California. The Biden Admin is hell bent to beat that edict and time frame.
YES -- they are idiots pretending to be power system engineers and environmentalists. And they ARE GONNA screw everything up by PUSHING phony alternatives and "battery centric everything". Just like they pushed those squiggly little CFLight bulbs that were a flash in the pan.. Or MTBE as a gas additive that polluted many Cali city water tables and supplies with a carcinogen..
It will be because we don't have the infrastructure and we won't have the infrastructure for a long time. And no one has yet said that every car will have to be an EV not even in CA
Really? You're on the right track here -- but you need to get woke to the plotting and planning to PUSH this beyond rationale goals and limits. For instance, Cali HAS a date for banning ICE cars...
California is banning the sale of gas and diesel-powered cars in 2035. Ford says it'll be ready. Ford Is All-in on California's 2035 EV Mandate: 'We Won't Concede the Future to Anyone'
Ford Is All-in on California's 2035 EV Mandate: 'We Won't ...
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