We cannot win in iraq.

[Lovebears65]

Iraq was won until Obama pulled out

WE CANNOT WIN IN IRAQ.
No matter how long we are in Iraq or Afghanistan we will never win. Whenever we leave radical Islam will return. We do not learn from history and we keep repeating the same mistakes. Russia was in Afghanistan for over 10 years. We cannot use bombs and guns to change hearts, minds and religions. We have lost too many of our men and women to stay any longer. Obama is right. Bring our people home and don’t send in any more. Bring them ALL home. Let those in the middle east solve their own middle east problem. We have an invasion of illegal aliens children that are doing more harm to this country then foreign terrorist. We will have to house them, feed them and educate them. And we worry about foreign terrorist? So much for the “border is secure than ever.” I have to wonder if anyone on FOXNEWS has had any family member in these war in Afghanistan and Iraq that they want to continue.
The world would be a better place if FOXNEWS and REPUBLICANS, WHITE SUPREMECIST and TEA PARTY were all gone. And Obama back in Chicago doing community organizing.

 

[tinydancer]

We didn't lose the fight in Iraq nor Afghanistan. We won. Can you get that thru your head libs?

But we lost at nation building. Therein lies the difference. And if any of you left wing loons took the time to study history, you would know that Iraq was formed by the League of Nations.

We should have been intelligent enough to undo that folly and split that country into three. Kurds, Shia and Sunni.

Not everything on this planet morons can be blamed on Bush. Shit really did happen on this earth before he came into office.

 

[blackhawk]

We weren't isolated leading up to 9/11. We had troops in Saudi Arabia and that caused 9/11.

No it didn't

I'm not sure how you think that. Bin Laden is Saudi, and it's the American presence in Saudi Arabia that he opposes the most. How do you get that wasn't behind the attacks exactly? To say it's not that simple I would agree with you on. To say "no it didn't" is pretty preposerous.

The main goal of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was to spread Sharia law around the world and have it as the main rule of governing the 9-11 attacks were a way to promote and show their strength and ability to achieve that goal the American presence in Saudi Arabia may have given him a good talking point reason for the attacks but it was not the main reason for it.

 

[Contumacious]

We didn't lose the fight in Iraq nor Afghanistan. We won. Can you get that thru your head libs?

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Yes , indeed we "won"......but only if one uses an Orwellian Dictionary.

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[Contumacious]

No it didn't

I'm not sure how you think that. Bin Laden is Saudi, and it's the American presence in Saudi Arabia that he opposes the most. How do you get that wasn't behind the attacks exactly? To say it's not that simple I would agree with you on. To say "no it didn't" is pretty preposerous.

The main goal of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was to spread Sharia law around the world and have it as the main rule of governing the 9-11 attacks.......................... .

WUT?

Preventing the criminal element from murdering, injuring and harassing your people is "spreading Sharia Law? Who would have thunketh?!?

.

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[The Rabbi]

I'm not sure how you think that. Bin Laden is Saudi, and it's the American presence in Saudi Arabia that he opposes the most. How do you get that wasn't behind the attacks exactly? To say it's not that simple I would agree with you on. To say "no it didn't" is pretty preposerous.

Narco-libtards beating the blame the victim drum again. If we were out of Saudi Arabia they would find some other excuse, like our support for Israel.

Contumacious Rule#1: Rabbi can argue without posting a logical fallacy or a factual error within 1 post.

Israhell is the PRIMARY reason we were attacked on 09/11.

The US created the Talmudist State. It has given the Zionist Entity over 100 BBBBBBBBBBBillions dollars since 1949.


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Rabbi's Rules #2: Contumacious can be counted on to make the dumbest posts on Earth.

Kaz says the presence of US troops in Saudi caused 9/11
You say US support for Israel caused 9/11.
Which is it?

 

[tinydancer]

No it didn't

I'm not sure how you think that. Bin Laden is Saudi, and it's the American presence in Saudi Arabia that he opposes the most. How do you get that wasn't behind the attacks exactly? To say it's not that simple I would agree with you on. To say "no it didn't" is pretty preposerous.

The main goal of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was to spread Sharia law around the world and have it as the main rule of governing the 9-11 attacks were a way to promote and show their strength and ability to achieve that goal the American presence in Saudi Arabia may have given him a good talking point reason for the attacks but it was not the main reason for it.

Our biggest problem in the west is that our leaders and our intelligence agencies seem to have all come out of a cookie cutter box of "foreign policy 101".

It would appear no it has appeared that none in our appropriate government agencies that anyone has the ability to think like our enemies.

Aye carumba! I sometimes wonder if they've got a grip on Islamic radicalism at all.

9/11 was but a flash point that bin Laden couldn't back up. I think in terms of rock n roll from my past so please bare with my anologies.

9/11 was the awesome opening act for a world ruled by Islam, but there was a problem for bin Laden.

He didn't have a main act to follow up. He took the stage but he didn't count on the world pushing back as dramatically as they did with nuking him out of Afghanistan.

 

[tinydancer]

We didn't lose the fight in Iraq nor Afghanistan. We won. Can you get that thru your head libs?

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Yes , indeed we "won"......but only if one uses an Orwellian Dictionary.

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You are taking my post out of context by editing it.

The key to my statement is we won the war but we lost the nation building.

Truth. And truth is my street howitzer.

 

[Freewill]

There is no such thing as radical Islam.

There are just angry muslim people who are feed up with the U.S and European nations invading and occupying their country and installing brutal puppet dictatorships.

So they take up weapons and fight to free themselves and their country. ..

You really need to think what you said through.

Isis Insurgents Tweet Picture Of Beheaded Man And Boast: 'This Is Our Ball. It's Made Of Skin #WorldCup' (GRAPHIC)

What I think they are mostly angry about is they think that the ME, and pretty much everywhere else, belongs to Muslims.

 

[Redfish]

I'm not sure how you think that. Bin Laden is Saudi, and it's the American presence in Saudi Arabia that he opposes the most. How do you get that wasn't behind the attacks exactly? To say it's not that simple I would agree with you on. To say "no it didn't" is pretty preposerous.

The main goal of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was to spread Sharia law around the world and have it as the main rule of governing the 9-11 attacks.......................... .

WUT?

Preventing the criminal element from murdering, injuring and harassing your people is "spreading Sharia Law? Who would have thunketh?!?

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you really are an idiot.

 

[tinydancer]

There is no such thing as radical Islam.

There are just angry muslim people who are feed up with the U.S and European nations invading and occupying their country and installing brutal puppet dictatorships.

So they take up weapons and fight to free themselves and their country. ..

You really need to think what you said through.

Isis Insurgents Tweet Picture Of Beheaded Man And Boast: 'This Is Our Ball. It's Made Of Skin #WorldCup' (GRAPHIC)

What I think they are mostly angry about is they think that the ME, and pretty much everywhere else, belongs to Muslims.

I like Sunni Man, but so far on ISIS he's obviously unaware of who these dudes are.

And may I only say these team of crazies called ISIS and Levant, they aren't angry about anything.

They are in it for the power. With the $400 million plus they pulled out of Mosul I think they have a solid financial base.

 

[Contumacious]

Narco-libtards beating the blame the victim drum again. If we were out of Saudi Arabia they would find some other excuse, like our support for Israel.

Contumacious Rule#1: Rabbi can argue without posting a logical fallacy or a factual error within 1 post.

Israhell is the PRIMARY reason we were attacked on 09/11.

The US created the Talmudist State. It has given the Zionist Entity over 100 BBBBBBBBBBBillions dollars since 1949.


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Rabbi's Rules #2: Contumacious can be counted on to make the dumbest posts on Earth.

Kaz says the presence of US troops in Saudi caused 9/11
You say US support for Israel caused 9/11.
Which is it?

We are BOTH Correct.


The Bin Laden Speech

And what America is facing today is something very little of what we have tasted for decades. Our nation, since nearly 80 years is tasting this humility. Sons are killed, and nobody answers the call.

And when those people have defended and retaliated to what their brothers and sisters have suffered in Palestine and Lebanon, the whole world has been shouting.And every day we see the Israeli tanks going to Jenin, Ramallah, Beit Jalla and other lands of Islam.

Our nation (the Islamic world) has been tasting this humiliation and this degradation for more than 80 years. Its sons are killed, its blood is shed, its sanctuaries are attacked, and no one hears and no one heeds. "

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[Contumacious]

We didn't lose the fight in Iraq nor Afghanistan. We won. Can you get that thru your head libs?

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Yes , indeed we "won"......but only if one uses an Orwellian Dictionary.

.

You are taking my post out of context by editing it.

The key to my statement is we won the war but we lost the nation building.

Truth. And truth is my street howitzer.

WUT?

The US is a military superpower . So, of course, if we invade any small country victory --- IN THE MILITARY SENSE --- is certain.

That does not explain the reason we needed a "victory" in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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[Katzndogz]

I'm not sure how you think that. Bin Laden is Saudi, and it's the American presence in Saudi Arabia that he opposes the most. How do you get that wasn't behind the attacks exactly? To say it's not that simple I would agree with you on. To say "no it didn't" is pretty preposerous.

The main goal of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was to spread Sharia law around the world and have it as the main rule of governing the 9-11 attacks were a way to promote and show their strength and ability to achieve that goal the American presence in Saudi Arabia may have given him a good talking point reason for the attacks but it was not the main reason for it.

Our biggest problem in the west is that our leaders and our intelligence agencies seem to have all come out of a cookie cutter box of "foreign policy 101".

It would appear no it has appeared that none in our appropriate government agencies that anyone has the ability to think like our enemies.

Aye carumba! I sometimes wonder if they've got a grip on Islamic radicalism at all.

9/11 was but a flash point that bin Laden couldn't back up. I think in terms of rock n roll from my past so please bare with my anologies.

9/11 was the awesome opening act for a world ruled by Islam, but there was a problem for bin Laden.

He didn't have a main act to follow up. He took the stage but he didn't count on the world pushing back as dramatically as they did with nuking him out of Afghanistan.

The problem is, we don't have anything to follow nuking Bin Laden out of Afghanistan either. That's why it has fallen apart as badly as it has. On one side are terrorists who are consumed with victory. On the other side is the west who doesn't know what victory is. Except it had better be equal or we don't want it.

 

[The Rabbi]

Contumacious Rule#1: Rabbi can argue without posting a logical fallacy or a factual error within 1 post.

Israhell is the PRIMARY reason we were attacked on 09/11.

The US created the Talmudist State. It has given the Zionist Entity over 100 BBBBBBBBBBBillions dollars since 1949.


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Rabbi's Rules #2: Contumacious can be counted on to make the dumbest posts on Earth.

Kaz says the presence of US troops in Saudi caused 9/11
You say US support for Israel caused 9/11.
Which is it?

We are BOTH Correct.


The Bin Laden Speech

And what America is facing today is something very little of what we have tasted for decades. Our nation, since nearly 80 years is tasting this humility. Sons are killed, and nobody answers the call.

And when those people have defended and retaliated to what their brothers and sisters have suffered in Palestine and Lebanon, the whole world has been shouting.And every day we see the Israeli tanks going to Jenin, Ramallah, Beit Jalla and other lands of Islam.

Our nation (the Islamic world) has been tasting this humiliation and this degradation for more than 80 years. Its sons are killed, its blood is shed, its sanctuaries are attacked, and no one hears and no one heeds. "

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OK, so why did Spain also suffer a terrorist attack from Islamic nutjobs?

See, it doesnt matter. We didnt cause any of that. They hate us because we are America. They really dont need another reason. And the only way we're going to get them to stop executing terrorist attacks is to kill every last one of the motherfuckers.

 

[tinydancer]

Contumacious Rule#1: Rabbi can argue without posting a logical fallacy or a factual error within 1 post.

Israhell is the PRIMARY reason we were attacked on 09/11.

The US created the Talmudist State. It has given the Zionist Entity over 100 BBBBBBBBBBBillions dollars since 1949.


.

Rabbi's Rules #2: Contumacious can be counted on to make the dumbest posts on Earth.

Kaz says the presence of US troops in Saudi caused 9/11
You say US support for Israel caused 9/11.
Which is it?

We are BOTH Correct.


The Bin Laden Speech

And what America is facing today is something very little of what we have tasted for decades. Our nation, since nearly 80 years is tasting this humility. Sons are killed, and nobody answers the call.

And when those people have defended and retaliated to what their brothers and sisters have suffered in Palestine and Lebanon, the whole world has been shouting.And every day we see the Israeli tanks going to Jenin, Ramallah, Beit Jalla and other lands of Islam.

Our nation (the Islamic world) has been tasting this humiliation and this degradation for more than 80 years. Its sons are killed, its blood is shed, its sanctuaries are attacked, and no one hears and no one heeds. "

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You know what? Take it to another thread.

We are dealing in the here and now with ISIS and Levant.

 

[The T]

Gee? that's funny? Didn't Obama tell us (take CREDIT for Iraq), and proceed to tell us HE ended the War in Iraq, GOT bin-Laden, and AQ was now on the run?

 

[The Rabbi]

Gee? that's funny? Didn't Obama tell us (take CREDIT for Iraq), and proceed to tell us HE ended the War in Iraq, GOT bin-Laden, and AQ was now on the run?

Right. He gets credit for the good stuff.
The bad stuff is Bush's fault.

 

[Contumacious]

The main goal of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was to spread Sharia law around the world and have it as the main rule of governing the 9-11 attacks.......................... .

WUT?

Preventing the criminal element from murdering, injuring and harassing your people is "spreading Sharia Law? Who would have thunketh?!?

.

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you really are an idiot.

Thank you.

I understand that from your standpoint I was supposed to ignore the Palestinian Holocaust.

I was also supposed to ignored the fact that the US invaded Iraq in 1990 and remained there until December 2011.

From your standpoint the Muslims are animals and do not have a right to RETALIATE.

So, from my standpoint you are the idiot.

.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No it didn't

I'm not sure how you think that. Bin Laden is Saudi, and it's the American presence in Saudi Arabia that he opposes the most. How do you get that wasn't behind the attacks exactly? To say it's not that simple I would agree with you on. To say "no it didn't" is pretty preposerous.

The main goal of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was to spread Sharia law around the world and have it as the main rule of governing the 9-11 attacks were a way to promote and show their strength and ability to achieve that goal the American presence in Saudi Arabia may have given him a good talking point reason for the attacks but it was not the main reason for it.

Wrong.

Oh, btw, are you aware, or do you remember that AFTER 9/11 Bush quietly removed our troops from Saudi Arabia?