What is "anti-revelation atheist-ism?"
Zone1 We are all NATURAL THEISTS with “homage to reason” unless we lock~in to or against revealed theist-ism vs anti-revelation atheist-ism
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BreezeWood
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yes -
google is your friend - at least for most ...
try not to weep to loudly as you discover for yourself the truth - that has already been provided than for your own verification - just run away when keeping up is to difficult for you.
It's pretty obvious from your posts who is weeping. That's pretty much all you do.
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ding Post #209 Mar 16, 2024 …~… Jefferson believed that the existence of the God of Nature whose attributes included being a providential, moralistic creator - whose existence and causal relation to the world - is essential to the foundation of natural-rights.
whut I ask Post 124 re: 209 Mar 16 2024 …~… If the God of Nature never became incarnate to do some sort of three way blood sacrifice for the atonement of all human sins; does that mean there never would have been a long bloody history in Europe leading up to the American Revolution or no Revolution needed because there were no Christian Kings Queens Princes princesses representing the Kingdom of God’s church states.
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ding Post #121 May 25, 2025 …~… What is "anti-revelation atheist-ism?"
whut I say Post 124 to 121 …~… the opposite of one who believes they have received ultimate truth about the positive existence of God.
One who believes they have received ultimate truth about the non-existence of God.
Both extremes-if fiercely dug in, will necessarily reject Lincoln’s appeal that Americans devote themselves to the American heritage through our common political religion.
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BreezeWood
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you have nothing than empty rhetoric you try to peddle same as your phony 4th century christianity.
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ding Post #209 Mar 16, 2024 …~… Jefferson believed that the existence of the God of Nature whose attributes included being a providential, moralistic creator - whose existence and causal relation to the world - is essential to the foundation of natural-rights.
ding Post #640 Aug 18, 2024 …~… Atheists do not believe in Nature's God, so don't believe Nature's God to be creating, providential, moralistic and is responsible for natural rights.
whut I say …~… Atheists who cling tenaciously to the slippery tentacles of human life; being mindful of boundaries of the joy and suffering of existence, are by that very natural default, passionately in love with nature’s god.
I'm not peddling anything. Most of my posts are in defense of my beliefs. You're the bad guy in this story.
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christianity, judaism - false commandments hereditary idolatry religions of apartheid ...
* have you considered permanent residence in the middleast is your true calling - start in gaza and change that into the state pleasure resort of palestine.
What you intend for evil, God is using for good.
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I've read that the Founders were split between Purely Christian and Deist beliefs. But the majority of the people were Christian which is why the Founders decided to define the new country as a Christian nation under God.
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such is no where found in any u s document and expressly prohibited by the 1st amendment. madeup distortion the same as the desert bibles themselves.
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MarathonMike Post #131 May 26, 2025 …~… I've read that the Founders were split between Purely Christian and Deist beliefs. But the majority of the people were Christian which is why the Founders decided to define the new country as a Christian nation under God.
whut I say Post #133 to #131 ~…~ Any conclusion as to the “Christianity” of the founding generation can not be further from the truth.
The vast majority of the people were not Christians ~ Far from it.
The most accurate way to refer to them is as “rational theists who were unchurched.”
They elected the first five out of six US Presidents who were “rational theists who were unchurched.” Then came Lincoln who was also a “rational theists who was unchurched.”
The founders decided nothing with regard to religion or God except it was up to each individual to do it their own way under entirely secular rule of law
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"Thomas Jefferson and many of his contemporaries understood that the natural rights of man depended upon teleological considerations. So viewed, and accepting the premise that man's goal is being with his Creator for eternity, man has the duty to abide by His will and directions, because they are necessary to satisfy man's duties. Jefferson wrote that "the true office is to declare and enforce our natural rights and duties."24 The existence of natural duties and the relationship of rights to duties were quite apparent to Jefferson, and anyone who has studied the man should realize that the only natural duties Jefferson acknowledged were not to temporal kings, but to the Creator.
James Madison was even more explicit that the source of rights exists in man's duty to his Creator. Writing of the unalienable right of religion in his Memorial and Remonstrance, he stated that the right is unalienable "because what is here a right towards men, is a duty towards the creator. It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homeage, and such only, as he believes to be acceptable to Him. His duty is precedent, both in order of time and in degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society. Before any man can be considered as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe: And if a member of Civil Society, who enters into any subordinate Association, must always do it with a reservation of his duty to the general authority; much more must every man who becomes a member of any particular Civil Society, do it with a saving of his allegiance to the Universal Sovereign." 25
Another leading Virginian, George Mason, was equally clear in asserting that the obligation of man to his Maker was the source of natural rights. In 1772 he wrote: "Now all acts of legislature apparently contrary to natural right and justice, are, in our laws, and must be in the nature of things, considered as void. The laws of nature are the laws of God: A legislature must not obstruct our obedience to him from whose punishments they cannot protect us. All human constitutions which contradict His laws, we are in conscience bound to disobey. Such have been the adjudications of our courts of justice." 26
The imperative necessity of understanding ends and duties in order to delineate natural rights was appreciated not only by Messrs. Jefferson, Madison, and Mason, but also by Virginians generally in our formative period. The members of the Virginia convention that ratified the United States Constitution saw and stated that the natural rights of conscience and religion are predicated upon an obligation to God. They contended that it was because of "the duty which we owe to our Creator," that "all men have an equal, natural and unalienable right to the free exercise of religion according to the dictates of conscience." 27"
Founding Fathers were anti-atheist
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whut I say …~… Real Christians like James R Wilson were teleologically opposed to the Godless US Constitution because Jesus Christ’s authority over the New Covenant Nation was disregarded in it.
Badmouthed, every single one of rational theist founding fathers.
Read his contempt for separation of church and state here
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ding Post #121 May 25, 2025 …~… What is "anti-revelation atheist-ism?"
whut I say Post 124 to 121 …~… the opposite of one who believes they have received ultimate truth about the positive existence of God.
One who believes they have received ultimate truth about the non-existence of God.
ding Post #135 May 27, 2025 …~… What's anti-revelation atheist-ism?
One who believes they have acquired ultimate truth that God does not exist as if that qualifies them to ridicule or harass anyone who claims to believe GOD revealed HIS truth through the Judeo Christian Holy Bible.
whut I say Post 124 to 121 …~… the opposite of one who believes they have received ultimate truth about the positive existence of God.
One who believes they have received ultimate truth about the non-existence of God.
ding Post #135 May 27, 2025 …~… What's anti-revelation atheist-ism?
One who believes they have acquired ultimate truth that God does not exist as if that qualifies them to ridicule or harass anyone who claims to believe GOD revealed HIS truth through the Judeo Christian Holy Bible.
That's stating what it isn't. Can you state what it is?
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ding Post #137 May 28, 2025 …~… That's stating what it isn't. Can you state what it is?
whut I say …~… I did. see below
whut I said in Post 124 to 121 …~… the opposite of one who believes they have received ultimate truth about the positive existence of God.
One who believes they have received ultimate truth about the non-existence of God.
How does one receive ultimate truth about something which doesn't exist? Are you familiar with the concept of falsifiability?
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ding Post #137 May 28, 2025 …~… That's stating what it isn't. Can you state what it is?
whut I said in Post #124 to 121 …~… One who believes they have received ultimate truth about the non-existence of God.
ding Post #139 May 28, 2025 …~… How does one receive ultimate truth about something which doesn't exist?
whut I say Post #140 to 139 May 29, 2025 …~… Please take note that in my Post 124 I did not say … “One who “receives“ ultimate truth about the non-existence of God. … I wrote more precisely the following for a reason; … “One who believes they have received ultimate truth about the non-existence of God.”
Positive~theists and negative~theists share one thing in common. They both never receive actual truth for their beliefs.
Please correct your question so I can answer it based on some semblance of reality..
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