Watching La Nina update thread

[skookerasbil]

C'mon............nobody cares about the La Nina updates except the internet OCD's!

And btw.....ding is pwning you dopers!!

 

[skookerasbil]

What is your background in science? I'm an engineer.

Which means you are not a scientist, and that you likely have little understanding of how science works. Engineering and science are different meta-disciplines, and engineers are not trained in how to do science.

Try not to display too much Engineer's Arrogance Syndrome. That's when an engineer assumes the entire world is entirely explainable by his own tiny technical specialty, whatever that may be. For example, we have one engineer here who constantly assumes the planet's climate has to act like a simple electrical circuit.

Also, don't play stupid games with us. If you've got a point to make with your question, make it directly, instead of asking us over and over. After all, we know the answer, and we're starting to think you don't.

lol........this crap about "understanding the science" is so old. The public has been hearing about it for decades now yet the science isn't mattering in the real world......but the religion keeps trumpeting this goofball message!! Time for Plan B s0ns............we just got out of an election where climate change as a voter issue was a complete zErO

insanity
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.


Urban Dictionary: insanity

 

[ScienceRocks]

Per the following NOAA weekly Nino indices data and the attached plots (with the first two for the Eq Pac per NOAA with the first of the Upper Ocean Heat Anom and the second of the SSTA Evolution, both issued today) (& the last two from the BoM for the week ending Nov 27 2106, with the third of the Nino 3.4 index and the fourth of the weekly IOD), we are currently in a cool neutral ENSO condition:

Nino1+2 Nino3 Nino34 Nino4
Week SST SSTA SST SSTA SST SSTA SST SSTA

26OCT2016 21.3 0.2 24.4-0.5 25.9-0.8 28.2-0.4
02NOV2016 21.2 0.0 24.3-0.6 25.8-0.8 28.0-0.6
09NOV2016 21.8 0.4 24.5-0.4 26.0-0.7 28.1-0.5
16NOV2016 21.5-0.1 24.7-0.3 26.2-0.4 28.3-0.3
23NOV2016 21.6-0.3 24.7-0.3 26.3-0.4 28.3-0.3

NOAA Eq Pac Upper Ocean Heat Anom issued Nov 28 2016.PNG (22.91 kB, 455x410 - viewed 16 times.)

NOAA Eq Pac SSTA Evolution issued Nov 28 2016.PNG (141.83 kB, 446x604 - viewed 16 times.)

 

[ScienceRocks]

 

[ding]

Mamooth is right. You've been behaving like a dick. I suspect you've actually got things to bring to the discussion here, but you might have started by walking in and saying hello. Instead, you assumed we were all a bunch of illiterate yahoos and began lecturing us with last year's fish wrap.

Hello, can you tell me why CO2 has not driven past climate changes?

 

[ScienceRocks]

No one cares, son.

 

[ding]

No one cares, son.

According to Raymond S. Bradley, Climatologist and University Distinguished Professor in the Department of Geosciences at the University of Massachusetts Amherst "to anticipate future changes, we must understand how and why climates varied in the past."

Raymond S. Bradley, Climatologist and University Distinguished Professor in the Department of Geosciences at the University of Massachusetts Amherst... cares.

 

[Old Rocks]

And in spite of the present ENSO

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_November_2016_v6.gif

 

[Billy_Bob]

Our current uptick in regions 3-4 is about to get a real spike downward in the coming weeks, Region 1-2 is dropping like a rock and in short order it will affect regions 3 and 4..

 

[ScienceRocks]

Up to -.25c at 3.4 on the daily....This has to be one of the fastest start and end of a nina in history. La nada!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Up to -.25c at 3.4 on the daily....This has to be one of the fastest start and end of a nina in history. La nada!

Its about to take a major dip... but continue with your adulation.. it so fun to watch as you squirm when it fails..

 

[ScienceRocks]

lol

 

[ding]

lol

lol for sure. Meet my new favorite graph, Mattie.

Global Warming : Feature Articles

 

[Old Rocks]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

 

[ding]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Yep it came from the exact same webpage you got yours from. In fact, you had to scroll past it to get to yours, you dumbfuck.

I can see the exact same saw tooth behavior in ALL interglacial cycles, you dumbfuck. But what these graphs really prove is your intellectual dishonesty when you only posted the first graph in the other thread and did not fully disclose all of the information and came to the wrong conclusion. So that not only makes you a dumbfuck but a dishonest dumbfuck too.

Global Warming : Feature Articles


Wow... doesn't that look like we have a problem!!!!

Not really. It is all part of a natural cycle that has been occurring for the past 400,000 years.

 

[Billy_Bob]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

 

[ScienceRocks]

 

[ding]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

 

[ScienceRocks]

 

[Billy_Bob]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

Yes.. That saw tooth pattern is seen in electrical systems with buffers as well. Its a well known and documented pattern of oscillation between to opposing maximums.

Current graphing limitations do not allow for these swings to be seen in the Paleo records and some who don't understand this make wild ass assumptions and statements that they can not hope to prove.

CO2 has nothing to do with heat retention on earth outside of its own ability and mass. Too bad most here can not be taught.