Watching La Nina update thread

[Old Rocks]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

OK, buddy boy, how long before that uptick swings down? One year? Five years? A decade? Not in our lifetimes.

 

[Old Rocks]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

Yes.. That saw tooth pattern is seen in electrical systems with buffers as well. Its a well known and documented pattern of oscillation between to opposing maximums.

Current graphing limitations do not allow for these swings to be seen in the Paleo records and some who don't understand this make wild ass assumptions and statements that they can not hope to prove.

CO2 has nothing to do with heat retention on earth outside of its own ability and mass. Too bad most here can not be taught.

Goddamn, you talk in circles just like one of those holy roller preachers. LOL Simple physics, we will see a lot more warming even if we stop the rise of anthropogenic GHGs in as little as two decades. 15 million years ago, the CO2 stood at 400 ppm, and it was a much warmer world.

 

[ding]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

OK, buddy boy, how long before that uptick swings down? One year? Five years? A decade? Not in our lifetimes.

Who the fuck knows but we have time, even Hansen says we have decades. Stop shitting your pants over nothing. Everything will work itself out. Who knows maybe we will be lucky and have WWIII and global famine, then you can be happy because CO2 emissions will be much lower.

 

[Billy_Bob]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

Yes.. That saw tooth pattern is seen in electrical systems with buffers as well. Its a well known and documented pattern of oscillation between to opposing maximums.

Current graphing limitations do not allow for these swings to be seen in the Paleo records and some who don't understand this make wild ass assumptions and statements that they can not hope to prove.

CO2 has nothing to do with heat retention on earth outside of its own ability and mass. Too bad most here can not be taught.

Goddamn, you talk in circles just like one of those holy roller preachers. LOL Simple physics, we will see a lot more warming even if we stop the rise of anthropogenic GHGs in as little as two decades. 15 million years ago, the CO2 stood at 400 ppm, and it was a much warmer world.

LOL.. Not if the sun remains quiet.. You really are clueless..

 

[ScienceRocks]

As the nina moves back towards neutral this will help the last month of this year seal the deal for the hottest year on record. This also increases the warmth of 2017.

 

[Old Rocks]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

OK, buddy boy, how long before that uptick swings down? One year? Five years? A decade? Not in our lifetimes.

Who the fuck knows but we have time, even Hansen says we have decades. Stop shitting your pants over nothing. Everything will work itself out. Who knows maybe we will be lucky and have WWIII and global famine, then you can be happy because CO2 emissions will be much lower.

In other words, you are just flapping yap. You know damned well it is not going down in several centuries. We have decades to stop the very worst of cases. What is already in the pipeline is the flooding of coastal cities, and much stronger storms, increased intensity of swings between droughts and precipitation events that both destroy infrastructure.

 

[Old Rocks]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

Yes.. That saw tooth pattern is seen in electrical systems with buffers as well. Its a well known and documented pattern of oscillation between to opposing maximums.

Current graphing limitations do not allow for these swings to be seen in the Paleo records and some who don't understand this make wild ass assumptions and statements that they can not hope to prove.

CO2 has nothing to do with heat retention on earth outside of its own ability and mass. Too bad most here can not be taught.

Goddamn, you talk in circles just like one of those holy roller preachers. LOL Simple physics, we will see a lot more warming even if we stop the rise of anthropogenic GHGs in as little as two decades. 15 million years ago, the CO2 stood at 400 ppm, and it was a much warmer world.

LOL.. Not if the sun remains quiet.. You really are clueless..

Silly Billy, the sun has been relatively quiet for a couple of decades, and we have seen the warmest years on record in the last two decades. Seems to show you to be full of shit as usual.

 

[ding]

New graph? Well maybe to the previously ignorant.

And that is the graph that matters. A gradual cooling for a 1000 years, then a sudden very fast rise. Just at the time that we started adding massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere. Just as physics predicts.

Cherry picking... How quaint... Omit the inconvenient facts that prove your fantasy wrong..

Misses the fact that warming and CO2 rises, like today, have been seen before.. The only reason one would do this is to promote an agenda because it is not science... Omit previous glacial cycle ends to make it appear as if something is wrong... Only one word identifies people like old rocks... LIAR

Yep. If you look at my post which shows both graphs together, you will see:

1. That our present interglacial temperature has not exceeded the temperature range of past interglacial cycles.

2. That little uptick of the past 200 years following a declining temp that these bozo's are so fond of trotting out, is no different than any other of the saw tooth behavior profiles during the other interglacial cycles. In other words the temps will fall for a period and then swing back up. Put several of these together and they resemble a saw blade.

OK, buddy boy, how long before that uptick swings down? One year? Five years? A decade? Not in our lifetimes.

Who the fuck knows but we have time, even Hansen says we have decades. Stop shitting your pants over nothing. Everything will work itself out. Who knows maybe we will be lucky and have WWIII and global famine, then you can be happy because CO2 emissions will be much lower.

In other words, you are just flapping yap. You know damned well it is not going down in several centuries. We have decades to stop the very worst of cases. What is already in the pipeline is the flooding of coastal cities, and much stronger storms, increased intensity of swings between droughts and precipitation events that both destroy infrastructure.

Don't be silly. The data does not lie. We have not exceeded the normal range of temperature for an interglacial cycle as evidenced by the data for the last 800,000 years and the spike over the last 200 years is exactly like the saw tooth behavior seen in every other interglacial cycle. You would have to be an idiot to reject this data on the grounds that I can't tell you when the spike will end. An absolute idiot.

 

[Old Rocks]

Sure buddy. And what is your flap yap going to be when we are way up in the coming decade?

 

[ding]

Sure buddy. And what is your flap yap going to be when we are way up in the coming decade?

Why are you being such a moron? The data is plain as day.

You can see the exact same saw tooth behavior in ALL interglacial cycles. The rise of the last 200 years after a fall of the previous 1000 years can be seen in every single interglacial phase. We are on our third tooth of the saw blade. It looks almost identical to the interglacial of 400,000 years ago. Use your eyes.

Global Warming : Feature Articles


Wow... doesn't that look like we have a problem!!!!

Not really. It is all part of a natural cycle that has been occurring for the past 400,000 years.

 

[Crick]

Sure buddy. And what is your flap yap going to be when we are way up in the coming decade?

 

[ding]

Sure buddy. And what is your flap yap going to be when we are way up in the coming decade?

You arguing with NASA?

Global Warming : Feature Articles

 

[Crick]

As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.

Temperature histories from paleoclimate data (green line) compared to the history based on modern instruments (blue line) suggest that global temperature is warmer now than it has been in the past 1,000 years, and possibly longer. (Graph adapted from Mann et al., 2008.)

Models predict that Earth will warm between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius in the next century. When global warming has happened at various times in the past two million years, it has taken the planet about 5,000 years to warm 5 degrees. The predicted rate of warming for the next century is at least 20 times faster. This rate of change is extremely unusual.

Global Warming : Feature Articles

 

[ding]

As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.

Temperature histories from paleoclimate data (green line) compared to the history based on modern instruments (blue line) suggest that global temperature is warmer now than it has been in the past 1,000 years, and possibly longer. (Graph adapted from Mann et al., 2008.)

Models predict that Earth will warm between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius in the next century. When global warming has happened at various times in the past two million years, it has taken the planet about 5,000 years to warm 5 degrees. The predicted rate of warming for the next century is at least 20 times faster. This rate of change is extremely unusual.

Global Warming : Feature Articles

Yeah, I've seen that graph. It was right below the one I posted. We are still in the temperature range of past interglacial cycles. The rise of the past 200 years is normal. The decline of the 1800 years before it was normal too. That is typical saw tooth behavior seen in almost every interglacial cycle. There is no problem.

 

[Billy_Bob]

As the nina moves back towards neutral this will help the last month of this year seal the deal for the hottest year on record. This also increases the warmth of 2017.

And the idiot refuses to look at regions 1-2 and see that massive cold is entering the system which is going to cause the moderation to go cold again... Moron..

 

[Crick]

And when do you believe it's going to go cold again Mr Bob?

 

[ding]

As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.

Temperature histories from paleoclimate data (green line) compared to the history based on modern instruments (blue line) suggest that global temperature is warmer now than it has been in the past 1,000 years, and possibly longer. (Graph adapted from Mann et al., 2008.)

Models predict that Earth will warm between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius in the next century. When global warming has happened at various times in the past two million years, it has taken the planet about 5,000 years to warm 5 degrees. The predicted rate of warming for the next century is at least 20 times faster. This rate of change is extremely unusual.

Global Warming : Feature Articles

No the temperature has not risen 10 times faster. You are smoking crack. Here is the temperature data from NASA. Our temperature rise is perfectly normal for an interglacial cycle. Show me where it has risen 10 times faster. You can't.

 

[WheelieAddict]

Remember when the idiots that populate this forum insisted the El Nino wasn't happening and dispensed all kinds of bullshit "facts" from shill websites that turned out to be bunk and mods were agreeing with their posts? Looks like the bullshit is back lol.

 

[WheelieAddict]

As the nina moves back towards neutral this will help the last month of this year seal the deal for the hottest year on record. This also increases the warmth of 2017.

And the idiot refuses to look at regions 1-2 and see that massive cold is entering the system which is going to cause the moderation to go cold again... Moron..

Aren't you the idiot that disputed the El Nino with a bunch of shill website data and were proven to be a moron?

 

[ding]

Remember when the idiots that populate this forum insisted the El Nino wasn't happening and dispensed all kinds of bullshit "facts" from shill websites that turned out to be bunk and mods were agreeing with their posts? Looks like the bullshit is back lol.

Wow... doesn't that look like we have a problem!!!!

Not really. It is all part of a natural cycle that has been occurring for the past 400,000 years.