Again, that's not my argument. So why would I post something I'm not arguing? My claim is that Georgia, and every one of the individual states, are democracies. And I proved that by posting the definition of a democracy, which absolutely applies to the states. Your inability to comprehend that is not my problem.again why didnt you also post the def of a republic so we can compare them side by side??LOLno it doesnt,,,I didn't have to since Georgia's form of government fits the definition of a "democracy."I have to ask,, why didnt you put the definition of a republic up so we can compare the two??LOLOLOL
Only if you believe Georgians don't elect Georgia's state legislature -- which apparently, you don't believe.
Again...
b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
Once again, everyone here sees you don't believe that ^^^ is true of Georgia. Or any other state, presumably.
its almost like youre trying to hide something,,,
Odd.
Trump was not calling in his role as President, he was calling as a candidate for re-election.
because if you did you would realize what youre saying is not true,,, thats why you wont post it,,Again, that's not my argument. So why would I post something I'm not arguing? My claim is that Georgia, and every one of the individual states, are democracies. And I proved that by posting the definition of a democracy, which absolutely applies to the states. Your inability to comprehend that is not my problem.again why didnt you also post the def of a republic so we can compare them side by side??LOLno it doesnt,,,I didn't have to since Georgia's form of government fits the definition of a "democracy."I have to ask,, why didnt you put the definition of a republic up so we can compare the two??LOLOLOL
Only if you believe Georgians don't elect Georgia's state legislature -- which apparently, you don't believe.
Again...
b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
Once again, everyone here sees you don't believe that ^^^ is true of Georgia. Or any other state, presumably.
its almost like youre trying to hide something,,,
Pelosi didn't "hold back aid".
Did they mention what crime, specifically?According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.
That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.
the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.
52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
George Conway delivers bad news to Trump on prison time potentially awaiting him for Georgia election tampering
Reacting to a Washington Post bombshell report that contained audio of Donald Trump begging and then demanding Georgia's secretary of state recalculate the presidential election vote totals in his state and find him close to 12,000 votes, attorney George Conway let the president know that he...www.rawstory.com
And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.
Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.
You can't be that dumb Skew?
Here is the full quote:
"So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."
Notice the lack of a threat in it? No bribery, no money offer, no blackmail nothing unlawful going on. He never says create bogus votes, just FIND 11,780 votes, which obviously means existing votes in the system he thinks are really his as he say he thinks he won by a few hundred thousand votes.
"You know what you did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal offense. That's a big risk to you and your lawyer"
.... and you're letting it happen, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen."
--- "and it's gonna be very costly in many ways..."
THAT'S A THREAT, Dildo.
"So Brad, what are you gonna do"? It would be most unfortunate if you were to wake up some morning....
Then he goes on to declare "they're shredding ballots and removing machinery" ----- AFTER BEING SPECIFICALLY TOLD BY PEOPLE IN A POSITION TO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE *NOT* HAPPENING.
"Full quote" MY ASS.
And then the fucking moron goes on to announce "you have a big election coming up on Tuesday".
He's saying this to THE FUCKING PEOPLE WHO RUN THE ELECTIONS IN THE STATE. Like they wouldn't know they have an election.
CHEESES JUMPIN" CHRIST what the fuck do you NEED?
That quote was NOT in post one article....., so where did you get it?
STRAIGHT OFF THE AUDIO
Fer fuxsake it even has SUBTITLES.
Oh it has subtilties, thanks for bringing it up as I am DEAF, which is why I didn't bother with the taped call.
Ok now I watched the 4:31 portion, it is clear Trump is full of shit, but he didn't break any laws in the conversation, and that the Secretary didn't get upset at any time, he says he and his people stand by their decision and have faithfully done their job.
Republican Brad Raffensperger never complained about the conversation as being illegal or threatening.
Here is his response to a Trump tweet:
LINK
I suggest you park your partisan silliness on this.
This is how uninformed you are.
The SOS of Georgia won't do the investigating because he believes it's a conflict of interest so he has handed it over to an Atlanta district attorney for investigation.
From what I read in the following article, yes he most certainly believes trump committed a crime.
Here's some very good advice, stop getting your news from far right sources. They aren't giving you the truth.
He lost. Please find another scapegoat for your issues. This is getting old and tiresome. Thank you.He already won. Democrats used every surreptitious trick in the book to steal it for Mother Communista. It takes time and patience to peel the onion. Trump fought every lie the Demonrats hurled at him. He is not breaking any laws going after the truth, and I support him and hope he beats the thugs of the left seeking raw revenge for criminal masterminds Rodham Clinton, Hussein Obama, Maxugly StalkingWaters, Upchuck Shoekickmer, Cheapshot Piglosi, Jarrold-Adam Des Asters, Extortion Joe Bidingtime, et al Demonrat press propaganda specialists.
Trump is determined to overthrow the election.
Trump called Georgia secretary of state nearly 20 times before threatening and likely illegal conversation
President Donald Trump called the Georgia Secretary of State nearly 20 times before his now-infamous call during which he threatened Brad Raffensperger, demanded he "find" votes to overturn the election, and likely committed an illegal act. "Raffensperger received the call from the White House...
Trump is handicapped because he is stupid and criminal.
I guess you live in a different version of America than I do since here the courts determine guilt and or innocence.
But isn't that a civil violation? When during the impeachment the House settled on abuse of power, they gave up trying for any criminal charges. Meaning, it's rotten but not criminal.Yes, he's browbeating. And yes, his "facts" are wrong, but that's not illegal. I don't get the 'let's compromise' part suggested by Trump's team. It makes no sense in this situation. 'ummm...recalculating' the vote to give Trump the win does sound shady, but in context of Trump's arguments, he'll never be prosecuted. The man lives in an impermeable bubble where it makes perfect sense for Raffensperger to agree they counted illegal votes, and all he needs to do is admit a few of them--11,799 to be exact.
George Conway: Trump's only defense for Georgia call is to claim insanity -- but even that won't work
George Conway said President Donald Trump's only defense was essentially insanity against criminal charges for his phone call with Georgia's secretary of state.The president was recorded on a call pressuring secretary of state Brad Raffensperger to "find" just enough votes to overturn his...
Thanks but I don't want or need anyone else's opinion. I'd rather listen to the tape myself and form my own opinion on the matter.....which I have.
Have you?
Yes.....I have listened to the tape.
the full one hour tape??? Or just the media excerpts?
The whole hour. Trump is disgusting. He's repeating himself and browbeating them.
Trump called Georgia secretary of state nearly 20 times before threatening and likely illegal conversation
President Donald Trump called the Georgia Secretary of State nearly 20 times before his now-infamous call during which he threatened Brad Raffensperger, demanded he "find" votes to overturn the election, and likely committed an illegal act. "Raffensperger received the call from the White House...
Now, whoever gave this recording to the press felt Trump was way out of line, or they wouldn't have shared it. They definitely felt they were being strong armed. Probably the threat of criminal prosecution was the final straw, although who Trump thinks would prosecute this is a mystery. They know better.
I wonder if Raffensperger is sorry, yet, that he voted for Trump. What do you all think?
I would NEVER talk with Trump without two witnesses and a recorder. I think Raffensperger and Kemp hate Trump. Most people do.
Abuse of office may apply.
Abuse of authority | legal definition of Abuse of ...
Abuse of authority means any act, conduct or decision which is outside the scope of the alleged violator's position, scope of duties, or level of authority as authorized by the designee. The actions or failure to take actions which are within the alleged violator's authority may constitute abuse of authority if the violator's motive or purpose is to harass, intimidate or treat the employee unreasonably under the …
Abuse of authority Definition: 255 Samples | Law Insider
Sample Contracts and Business Agreementswww.lawinsider.com
Odd.
I don't see anything about "incarceration" in the quote you provided.
The fact you continue to make up shit exposes how weak your position is, Moron.
You lose again, Fawnboi.
Nah, you would have to show a pattern and someone on the other end of the "implicit" corrupt influence actually committing crimes. As i understand it.According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.
That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.
the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.
52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
George Conway delivers bad news to Trump on prison time potentially awaiting him for Georgia election tampering
Reacting to a Washington Post bombshell report that contained audio of Donald Trump begging and then demanding Georgia's secretary of state recalculate the presidential election vote totals in his state and find him close to 12,000 votes, attorney George Conway let the president know that he...
And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.
Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.
criminal solicitation of election fraudDid they mention what crime, specifically?According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.
That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.
the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.
52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
George Conway delivers bad news to Trump on prison time potentially awaiting him for Georgia election tampering
Reacting to a Washington Post bombshell report that contained audio of Donald Trump begging and then demanding Georgia's secretary of state recalculate the presidential election vote totals in his state and find him close to 12,000 votes, attorney George Conway let the president know that he...
And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.
Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.
You can't be that dumb Skew?
Here is the full quote:
"So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."
Notice the lack of a threat in it? No bribery, no money offer, no blackmail nothing unlawful going on. He never says create bogus votes, just FIND 11,780 votes, which obviously means existing votes in the system he thinks are really his as he say he thinks he won by a few hundred thousand votes.
"You know what you did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal offense. That's a big risk to you and your lawyer"
.... and you're letting it happen, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen."
--- "and it's gonna be very costly in many ways..."
THAT'S A THREAT, Dildo.
"So Brad, what are you gonna do"? It would be most unfortunate if you were to wake up some morning....
Then he goes on to declare "they're shredding ballots and removing machinery" ----- AFTER BEING SPECIFICALLY TOLD BY PEOPLE IN A POSITION TO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE *NOT* HAPPENING.
"Full quote" MY ASS.
And then the fucking moron goes on to announce "you have a big election coming up on Tuesday".
He's saying this to THE FUCKING PEOPLE WHO RUN THE ELECTIONS IN THE STATE. Like they wouldn't know they have an election.
CHEESES JUMPIN" CHRIST what the fuck do you NEED?
That quote was NOT in post one article....., so where did you get it?
STRAIGHT OFF THE AUDIO
Fer fuxsake it even has SUBTITLES.
Oh it has subtilties, thanks for bringing it up as I am DEAF, which is why I didn't bother with the taped call.
Ok now I watched the 4:31 portion, it is clear Trump is full of shit, but he didn't break any laws in the conversation, and that the Secretary didn't get upset at any time, he says he and his people stand by their decision and have faithfully done their job.
Republican Brad Raffensperger never complained about the conversation as being illegal or threatening.
Here is his response to a Trump tweet:
LINK
I suggest you park your partisan silliness on this.
This is how uninformed you are.
The SOS of Georgia won't do the investigating because he believes it's a conflict of interest so he has handed it over to an Atlanta district attorney for investigation.
From what I read in the following article, yes he most certainly believes trump committed a crime.
Here's some very good advice, stop getting your news from far right sources. They aren't giving you the truth.
These are the same people who like to say Hillary Clinton has never done anything wrong.
LOLOLOdd.
I don't see anything about "incarceration" in the quote you provided.
The fact you continue to make up shit exposes how weak your position is, Moron.
You lose again, Fawnboi.
From your link...According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.
That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.
the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.
52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
George Conway delivers bad news to Trump on prison time potentially awaiting him for Georgia election tampering
Reacting to a Washington Post bombshell report that contained audio of Donald Trump begging and then demanding Georgia's secretary of state recalculate the presidential election vote totals in his state and find him close to 12,000 votes, attorney George Conway let the president know that he...
And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.
Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.
You can't be that dumb Skew?
Here is the full quote:
"So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."
Notice the lack of a threat in it? No bribery, no money offer, no blackmail nothing unlawful going on. He never says create bogus votes, just FIND 11,780 votes, which obviously means existing votes in the system he thinks are really his as he say he thinks he won by a few hundred thousand votes.
"You know what you did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal offense. That's a big risk to you and your lawyer"
.... and you're letting it happen, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen."
--- "and it's gonna be very costly in many ways..."
THAT'S A THREAT, Dildo.
"So Brad, what are you gonna do"? It would be most unfortunate if you were to wake up some morning....
Then he goes on to declare "they're shredding ballots and removing machinery" ----- AFTER BEING SPECIFICALLY TOLD BY PEOPLE IN A POSITION TO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE *NOT* HAPPENING.
"Full quote" MY ASS.
And then the fucking moron goes on to announce "you have a big election coming up on Tuesday".
He's saying this to THE FUCKING PEOPLE WHO RUN THE ELECTIONS IN THE STATE. Like they wouldn't know they have an election.
CHEESES JUMPIN" CHRIST what the fuck do you NEED?
That quote was NOT in post one article....., so where did you get it?
STRAIGHT OFF THE AUDIO
Fer fuxsake it even has SUBTITLES.
Oh it has subtilties, thanks for bringing it up as I am DEAF, which is why I didn't bother with the taped call.
Ok now I watched the 4:31 portion, it is clear Trump is full of shit, but he didn't break any laws in the conversation, and that the Secretary didn't get upset at any time, he says he and his people stand by their decision and have faithfully done their job.
Republican Brad Raffensperger never complained about the conversation as being illegal or threatening.
Here is his response to a Trump tweet:
LINK
I suggest you park your partisan silliness on this.
This is how uninformed you are.
The SOS of Georgia won't do the investigating because he believes it's a conflict of interest so he has handed it over to an Atlanta district attorney for investigation.
From what I read in the following article, yes he most certainly believes trump committed a crime.
Here's some very good advice, stop getting your news from far right sources. They aren't giving you the truth.
