Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[AzogtheDefiler]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Unfortunately WAPO is not a reliable source.

yeah sure go back and read OAN.

BTW, they posted the audio of the call at WAPO for you’ll with degrees from most SEC schools. You can hear it for yourselves without actually having to read.

Could you translate that gibberish into English?

Sorry, perhaps your remedial English teacher can help you out with it.

If I had one, no she couldn't. That isn't even remedial English.

yeah even your inbred teachers might be able to handle it. Given Biden will be certified, let me help you out; is spelled s-e-c-c-e-s-i-o-n.

We promise not to kick the shit out of you when you try to leave this time.

Drama. It’s just stupid rhetoric. No one is seceeding.

 

[bripat9643]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Unfortunately WAPO is not a reliable source.

yeah sure go back and read OAN.

BTW, they posted the audio of the call at WAPO for you’ll with degrees from most SEC schools. You can hear it for yourselves without actually having to read.

Could you translate that gibberish into English?

Sorry, perhaps your remedial English teacher can help you out with it.

If I had one, no she couldn't. That isn't even remedial English.

yeah even your inbred teachers might be able to handle it. Given Biden will be certified, let me help you out; is spelled s-e-c-c-e-s-i-o-n.

We promise not to kick the shit out of you when you try to leave this time.

You still haven't translated that gibberish into English, shit for brains.

I would be more than happy for my state to secede from the union.

I'm also not a teacher.

 

[meaner gene]

Attempting to pressure a subordinate to "find some votes" is at best an abuse of power. Hardly insignificant.

The Secretary of State isn't a subordinate to the President since he isn't in the Administration branch of the Federal Government. Trump has no authority over him.

Asking someone isn't a crime, especially when NO blackmail or money or physical threat leverage was used against him.

Trump is the head of the republican party, and the Sec of State is a subordinate member of the republican party.

That is like Barron Trump saying he isn't a government employee so Donald has no authority over him.

There are multiple authority systems at work.

 

[Obejoekenobe]

Mueller is bullshitting you with bogus legal crap, you fell for it hard.

Because that's what Mueller is known for. Bogus legal crap. God you're so smart. Why aren't you part of Trumps legal team given your expertise to see bogus legal crap that everyone missed! You are some kind of special Tommy.

Have you contacted Trump. I'm sure he would be interested in your skills. You'd be surrounded by peers that think as you.... lucky dog. One can only imagine the conversations y'all would have.

.

Mueller is noted for convicting people who are totally innocent.

Noted.... by who?

Sidney Powell, for one, and several courts of appeal.

LOLOL

Didn't Trumps legal team toss her ass under the short bus?

 

[ABikerSailor]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Unfortunately WAPO is not a reliable source.

yeah sure go back and read OAN.

BTW, they posted the audio of the call at WAPO for you’ll with degrees from most SEC schools. You can hear it for yourselves without actually having to read.

Could you translate that gibberish into English?

Sorry, perhaps your remedial English teacher can help you out with it.

If I had one, no she couldn't. That isn't even remedial English.

yeah even your inbred teachers might be able to handle it. Given Biden will be certified, let me help you out; is spelled s-e-c-c-e-s-i-o-n.

We promise not to kick the shit out of you when you try to leave this time.

You still haven't translated that gibberish into English, shit for brains.

I would be more than happy for my state to secede from the union.

I'm also not a teacher.

While you might be happy for your state to secede from the union, that is just wishful thinking on your part, as it is against the Constitution. You Trumpsters have zero idea about that document or how it works, you just listen to the Orange Idiot and believe his word as gospel.

 

[bripat9643]

Beautiful. Isn't it a crime in GA to record a phone call without the other party's consent?

NOPE

The language of Georgia's wiretapping law explains that it is a one-party consent law when it comes to recording other people's audio conversations.

Georgia's Video Recording Laws - ChancoSchiffer Law, LLC

Whether or not it was recorded with only 1 person's knowledge doesn't really matter. Why? Both are public officials, and conversations between public officials (if they don't contain classified information) are supposed to be part of the public record. Too bad Trump is too stupid to understand that. Part of being president means that every word you say, and every conversation that you have with other politicians can, and usually is, part of the public record.

Some of you people who think that the recording of Trump telling GA politicians to try to find some votes for him were illegal might wanna go back and study civics again.

Except when James O'Keefe records what public employees say in a Senator's office.

Right.

 

[bripat9643]

Mueller is bullshitting you with bogus legal crap, you fell for it hard.

Because that's what Mueller is known for. Bogus legal crap. God you're so smart. Why aren't you part of Trumps legal team given your expertise to see bogus legal crap that everyone missed! You are some kind of special Tommy.

Have you contacted Trump. I'm sure he would be interested in your skills. You'd be surrounded by peers that think as you.... lucky dog. One can only imagine the conversations y'all would have.

.

Mueller is noted for convicting people who are totally innocent.

Noted.... by who?

Sidney Powell, for one, and several courts of appeal.

LOLOL

Didn't Trumps legal team toss her ass under the short bus?

No.

 

[bripat9643]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Unfortunately WAPO is not a reliable source.

yeah sure go back and read OAN.

BTW, they posted the audio of the call at WAPO for you’ll with degrees from most SEC schools. You can hear it for yourselves without actually having to read.

Could you translate that gibberish into English?

Sorry, perhaps your remedial English teacher can help you out with it.

If I had one, no she couldn't. That isn't even remedial English.

yeah even your inbred teachers might be able to handle it. Given Biden will be certified, let me help you out; is spelled s-e-c-c-e-s-i-o-n.

We promise not to kick the shit out of you when you try to leave this time.

You still haven't translated that gibberish into English, shit for brains.

I would be more than happy for my state to secede from the union.

I'm also not a teacher.

While you might be happy for your state to secede from the union, that is just wishful thinking on your part, as it is against the Constitution. You Trumpsters have zero idea about that document or how it works, you just listen to the Orange Idiot and believe his word as gospel.

Where does the Constitution say a state can't secede?

 

[meaner gene]

Trump is also the head of the republican party, and the Sec of State is a subordinate member of the republican party.

It's not an employer/employee relationship, shit for brains. It's the same as if Trump was the head of the boyscouts and Raffensperger was just some scoutmaster.

Actually you make my point. Scout masters are subordinate members of the boyscout organization, and the head of the organization has both direct and indirect authority over them.

 

[Sactowndog]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Unfortunately WAPO is not a reliable source.

yeah sure go back and read OAN.

BTW, they posted the audio of the call at WAPO for you’ll with degrees from most SEC schools. You can hear it for yourselves without actually having to read.

Could you translate that gibberish into English?

Sorry, perhaps your remedial English teacher can help you out with it.

If I had one, no she couldn't. That isn't even remedial English.

yeah even your inbred teachers might be able to handle it. Given Biden will be certified, let me help you out; is spelled s-e-c-c-e-s-i-o-n.

We promise not to kick the shit out of you when you try to leave this time.

You still haven't translated that gibberish into English, shit for brains.

I would be more than happy for my state to secede from the union.

I'm also not a teacher.

“Your” teachers does not imply you are a teacher. Sorry, but I don’t have time to cover for the failings of the southern school systems and re-write my post to the 1st grade level for you.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump is also the head of the republican party, and the Sec of State is a subordinate member of the republican party.

It's not an employer/employee relationship, shit for brains. It's the same as if Trump was the head of the boyscouts and Raffensperger was just some scoutmaster.

Actually you make my point. Scout masters are subordinate members of the boyscout organization, and the head of the organization has both direct and indirect authority over them.

That's much more direct that the relationship between Trump and Raffensperger, and it wouldn't be a crime for the head of boyscouts to threaten a scout leader with termination.

 

[meaner gene]

Whether or not it was recorded with only 1 person's knowledge doesn't really matter. Why? Both are public officials, and conversations between public officials (if they don't contain classified information) are supposed to be part of the public record. Too bad Trump is too stupid to understand that. Part of being president means that every word you say, and every conversation that you have with other politicians can, and usually is, part of the public record.

Some of you people who think that the recording of Trump telling GA politicians to try to find some votes for him were illegal might wanna go back and study civics again.

Excellent. It shows how ignorant Trump supporters are.

 

[bripat9643]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Unfortunately WAPO is not a reliable source.

yeah sure go back and read OAN.

BTW, they posted the audio of the call at WAPO for you’ll with degrees from most SEC schools. You can hear it for yourselves without actually having to read.

Could you translate that gibberish into English?

Sorry, perhaps your remedial English teacher can help you out with it.

If I had one, no she couldn't. That isn't even remedial English.

yeah even your inbred teachers might be able to handle it. Given Biden will be certified, let me help you out; is spelled s-e-c-c-e-s-i-o-n.

We promise not to kick the shit out of you when you try to leave this time.

You still haven't translated that gibberish into English, shit for brains.

I would be more than happy for my state to secede from the union.

I'm also not a teacher.

“Your” teachers does not imply you are a teacher. Sorry, but I don’t have time to cover for the failings of the southern school systems and re-write my post to the 1st grade level for you.

You have done nothing but insult me, but now you're offended?

What a jackass.

 

[Sunsettommy]

The Secretary of State isn't a subordinate to the President since he isn't in the Administration branch of the Federal Government. Trump has no authority over him.

Trump is also the head of the republican party, and the Sec of State is a subordinate member of the republican party.

Political parties have ZERO authority with elected offices, surely you knew this?

What Are the Four Roles of Political Parties?

or,

The Functions of Political Parties

=====

The Republican party can't tell Trump or Raffensperger what to do , they have no such authority at all.

 

[Sactowndog]

Trump is also the head of the republican party, and the Sec of State is a subordinate member of the republican party.

It's not an employer/employee relationship, shit for brains. It's the same as if Trump was the head of the boyscouts and Raffensperger was just some scoutmaster.

Actually you make my point. Scout masters are subordinate members of the boyscout organization, and the head of the organization has both direct and indirect authority over them.

No his point is still correct. As expected, his analogies were poor. Mississippi? Alabama? Arkansas? Come on, tell us in which shit for brains state you all reside.

 

[meaner gene]

Some of you people who think that the recording of Trump telling GA politicians to try to find some votes for him were illegal might wanna go back and study civics again.

Except when James O'Keefe records what public employees say in a Senator's office.

Right.

You said you understood why it was illegal. Did you have a brain freeze?

 

[bripat9643]

Beautiful. Isn't it a crime in GA to record a phone call without the other party's consent?

NOPE

The language of Georgia's wiretapping law explains that it is a one-party consent law when it comes to recording other people's audio conversations.

Georgia's Video Recording Laws - ChancoSchiffer Law, LLC

Whether or not it was recorded with only 1 person's knowledge doesn't really matter. Why? Both are public officials, and conversations between public officials (if they don't contain classified information) are supposed to be part of the public record. Too bad Trump is too stupid to understand that. Part of being president means that every word you say, and every conversation that you have with other politicians can, and usually is, part of the public record.

Some of you people who think that the recording of Trump telling GA politicians to try to find some votes for him were illegal might wanna go back and study civics again.

Civics doesn't cover that topic, moron. in some states it's legal. In other states it isn't. Perhaps you should take civics to learn that.

 

[Sactowndog]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Unfortunately WAPO is not a reliable source.

yeah sure go back and read OAN.

BTW, they posted the audio of the call at WAPO for you’ll with degrees from most SEC schools. You can hear it for yourselves without actually having to read.

Could you translate that gibberish into English?

Sorry, perhaps your remedial English teacher can help you out with it.

If I had one, no she couldn't. That isn't even remedial English.

yeah even your inbred teachers might be able to handle it. Given Biden will be certified, let me help you out; is spelled s-e-c-c-e-s-i-o-n.

We promise not to kick the shit out of you when you try to leave this time.

You still haven't translated that gibberish into English, shit for brains.

I would be more than happy for my state to secede from the union.

I'm also not a teacher.

“Your” teachers does not imply you are a teacher. Sorry, but I don’t have time to cover for the failings of the southern school systems and re-write my post to the 1st grade level for you.

You have done nothing but insult me, but now you're offended?

What a jackass.

Not offended in the least.

 

[Sunsettommy]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

just a good old thug style shake down, and I'm sure retardicans are ok with it...

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Wow, I see that Biden has two right hands!

A birth defect I never knew he had.

 

[bripat9643]

Attempting to pressure a subordinate to "find some votes" is at best an abuse of power. Hardly insignificant.

The Secretary of State isn't a subordinate to the President since he isn't in the Administration branch of the Federal Government. Trump has no authority over him.

Asking someone isn't a crime, especially when NO blackmail or money or physical threat leverage was used against him.

Trump is the head of the republican party, and the Sec of State is a subordinate member of the republican party.

That is like Barron Trump saying he isn't a government employee so Donald has no authority over him.

There are multiple authority systems at work.

The only one that matters is the employer/employee relationship, moron. I'm not going to jail if a threaten to kick you out of my bridge club. End of story.