Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[bripat9643]

Gee you chose to mock me, which means you can't address my post about NO charges found anywhere in the 400 plus page report which is 100% true and you know it!

No shit. Did you really think that squat toady called Barr running Justice would bring charges against his master while sucking his dick?

Thought not. now you know why I mocked you.

Your dishonest reply is off the charts, you once again ignored the central point about Mueller never posting Prosecution charges in HIS own report which the public reads 99% of the report.

It was MUELLER who didn't charge the President with a crime.

Your rationalization is stupid and dead on arrival.

Mueller found no evidence of a crime because Trump obstructed justice. Just because Mueller couldn’t compel Trump’s consigliere to testify doesn’t mean a crime didn’t occur.

You turds are so desperate it must hurt.

 

[meaner gene]

The only one that matters is the employer/employee relationship, moron. I'm not going to jail if a threaten to kick you out of my bridge club. End of story.

If you request I commit an illegal act, or you would retaliate and kick me out of the bridge club, it would be a felony.
Solicitation under threat of deprivation

 

[Obejoekenobe]

Too bad Trump is too stupid to understand that. Part of being president means that every word you say, and every conversation that you have with other politicians can, and usually is, part of the public record.

Some of you people who think that the recording of Trump telling GA politicians to try to find some votes for him were illegal might wanna go back and study civics again.

Civics doesn't cover that topic, moron. in some states it's legal. In other states it isn't. Perhaps you should take civics to learn that.

Civiics does cover it. It's call the Presidential Records Act. As well as other government record requirements under FOIA.

Wrong. Do you ever tire of lying?

How do you know he's lying? Have you done a google search of the Act?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Political parties have ZERO authority with elected offices, surely you knew this?

What Are the Four Roles of Political Parties?

or,

The Functions of Political Parties

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The Republican party can't tell Trump or Raffensperger what to do , they have no such authority at all.

Trump calls for congressman to be kicked out of Republican ...
www.independent.co.uk › ... › Americas › US politics

Mar 27, 2020 — Trump calls for congressman to be kicked out of Republican party for plan to ...

LOL, Trump and the party can't kick him out of his elected office, they still can't tell him what to do either.

 

[Obejoekenobe]

It is clear you have no understanding the powers of the Special Prosecution, of which I have posted in the forum around 25 times to be ignored. In it states he in the final report to the Attorney General SHALL provide prosecution OR declination decisions.

No no Tommy. Barr has NO part whether to prosecute or not. Barr decides whether to bring charges or not. If Barr had decided to bring charges then he would hand Muellers findings off to a D.A. to prosecute and for a grand jury.to decide if a law was broken by the findings in Muellers report.

 

[meaner gene]

Wrong. Do you ever tire of lying?

How do you know he's lying? Have you done a google search of the Act?

It's standard republican m.o. Call somebody a liar and claim they're wrong when they quote the law they didn't bother to learn in civics 101.

 

[lennypartiv]

LOL, Trump and the party can't kick him out of his elected office, they still can't tell him what to do either.

Politicians should know better than to cross Trump. Payback is a *****.

 

[OldLady]

According to the Post report, Trump told Republican Brad Raffensperger, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.

That, Conway suggested, amounted to election tampering.

the relevant penalties for attempting or proposing fraud.

52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

George Conway delivers bad news to Trump on prison time potentially awaiting him for Georgia election tampering

Reacting to a Washington Post bombshell report that contained audio of Donald Trump begging and then demanding Georgia's secretary of state recalculate the presidential election vote totals in his state and find him close to 12,000 votes, attorney George Conway let the president know that he...

www.rawstory.com

And that boys and girls, is not a conspiracy theory. It is not TDS. It is not flaming or trolling. The phone call by Trump actually happened. He actually did ask the Georgia AG to act on his behalf. The federal code really does make it a crime. He really is the President, and was a candidate for reelection. This really is politics.

Which means this post by any measure belongs right here.

DAYUM.

Just listened to the audio. First impression: Rump would not last a nanosecond on this forum. Making a list of ipse dixit declarations based on no source at all and then threatening state officials with "criminality" based on nothing but that what he fantasizes in his pathetic wishful-thinking orgy, doesn't match what they see in real life.

************ should be impeached TOMORROW. If this isn't a high crime, let alone misdemeanor, nothing is.

Actually, listening to him go on about all that election fraud and getting triggered whenever he was corrected reminded me exactly of the posters at USMB. Trump would fit right in.

I don't know much about settlement conferences, but it did seem strange asking if there was any way Raffensperger could come to some kind of "compromise" on the vote tally. I didn't know that was something one could compromise on?
You could umm..."Recalculate..." Nothing wrong with that.

Now it doesn't seem to me that a team of lawyers would suggest anything totally illegal, but I'm still not sure how you compromise and recalculate a vote total that has been gone over a few billion times by Georgia already. This isn't FZ math. A number is a number.

 

[meaner gene]

Trump calls for congressman to be kicked out of Republican ...
www.independent.co.uk › ... › Americas › US politics

Mar 27, 2020 — Trump calls for congressman to be kicked out of Republican party for plan to ...

LOL, Trump and the party can't kick him out of his elected office, they still can't tell him what to do either.

Nobody said kick him out of his elected office. Trump as the head of the republican party can get him kicked out of the republican party, which means he can't be on the ballot under the republican heading, or get funds from the republican party, or even fundraise as a republican.

 

[meaner gene]

No no Tommy. Barr has NO part whether to prosecute or not. Barr decides whether to bring charges or not. If Barr had decided to bring charges then he would hand Muellers findings off to a D.A. to prosecute and for a grand jury.to decide if a law was broken by the findings in Muellers report.

Except Mueller said that because of the DOJ office of legal counsel policy memo where a sitting president can't be indicted, why he didn't accuse the president of charges he wouldn't have the chance to defend himself from in a court of law.

 

[meaner gene]

LOL, Trump and the party can't kick him out of his elected office, they still can't tell him what to do either.

Politicians should know better than to cross Trump. Payback is a *****.

Nobody said kicked from elected office, but instead kicked out of the republican party. Forcing him to run as an independent cut off from all republican resources.

 

[Sunsettommy]

It is clear you have no understanding the powers of the Special Prosecution, of which I have posted in the forum around 25 times to be ignored. In it states he in the final report to the Attorney General SHALL provide prosecution OR declination decisions.

No no Tommy. Barr has NO part whether to prosecute or not. Barr decides whether to bring charges or not. If Barr had decided to bring charges then he would hand Muellers findings off to a D.A. to prosecute and for a grand jury.to decide if a law was broken by the findings in Muellers report.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

You IGNORED the Congressionally created Special Counsel law, where I post the law one again:

"(c) Closing documentation. At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel. "

LINK

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The attorney General upon accepting the REPORT, will decide how to process the report based on the Special Counsels decisions. Barr decided to publish the MUELLER report to the public..... since there were NO Prosecution charges listed anywhere in it.

Stop LYING to yourself.......

 

[Sunsettommy]

LOL, Trump and the party can't kick him out of his elected office, they still can't tell him what to do either.

Politicians should know better than to cross Trump. Payback is a *****.

Nobody said kicked from elected office, but instead kicked out of the republican party. Forcing him to run as an independent cut off from all republican resources.

They didn't however because they didn't have sufficient cause to do it. It doesn't help political parties to kick people out over a disagreement, otherwise they will lose influence over time if they abuse it. It is why it is a rare occurrence.

 

[Sunsettommy]

No no Tommy. Barr has NO part whether to prosecute or not. Barr decides whether to bring charges or not. If Barr had decided to bring charges then he would hand Muellers findings off to a D.A. to prosecute and for a grand jury.to decide if a law was broken by the findings in Muellers report.

Except Mueller said that because of the DOJ office of legal counsel policy memo where a sitting president can't be indicted, why he didn't accuse the president of charges he wouldn't have the chance to defend himself from in a court of law.

Mueller was ducking his own stated powers of office, possibly to get around the failure of not finding anything to charge the President with.

To this day, Trump was NEVER charged or impeached over the report.

Come one you can do better than this!

 

[meaner gene]

You IGNORED the Congressionally created Special Counsel law, where I post the law one again:

"(c) Closing documentation. At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel. "

LINK

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The attorney General upon accepting the REPORT, will decide how to process the report based on the Special Counsels decisions. Barr decided to publish the MUELLER report to the public..... since there were NO Prosecution charges listed anywhere in it.

Stop LYING to yourself.......

Muller said the DOJ OLC memo was the reason he did not state charges.

 

[beautress]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

There's a audio tape, genius.

How did they get it?

Your story is behind a paywall.

FAIL!

typical of treasonous Republicans. To dumb and poor to be able to afford content behind a pay wall.

That's "too dumb," not "to dumb," dumbfuck.

I wouldn't pay for WAPO if I was a billionaire.

Fair point and it’s still clear you don’t have “two” Nickels to rub together.

What is clear is that your power-worshipping deep state leaders fool you but not Mr bripat. The Democrats are investing in crooks to lead the country. That is going to end badly if loser Biden is allowed to sit in the oval office based on the Democrat steal for Basement Joe, the extortionist of taxpayer gift to the Ukraine. Joe's egregious error was bragging about the details of his threat to the Ukraine, reminding them he was the VPOTUS and as Vice President he'd eliminate their $3.5 billion dollar relief package, courtesy of American taxpayers, if his billion dollar kickback was not delivered within 6 hours, when Air Force 2 was scheduled to leave. They delivered very shortly thereafter.

Not bad for one afternoon's threat. And not good for the American taxpayers who trusted leaders in the Obama Administration that were dishonest in money.

 

[Sunsettommy]

You IGNORED the Congressionally created Special Counsel law, where I post the law one again:

"(c) Closing documentation. At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel. "

LINK

=======

The attorney General upon accepting the REPORT, will decide how to process the report based on the Special Counsels decisions. Barr decided to publish the MUELLER report to the public..... since there were NO Prosecution charges listed anywhere in it.

Stop LYING to yourself.......

Muller said the DOJ OLC memo was the reason he did not state charges.

Ha ha ha, so his cop out is his reason to ignore the posted special counsel law.

You trying to be this dumb?

 

[meaner gene]

Nobody said kicked from elected office, but instead kicked out of the republican party. Forcing him to run as an independent cut off from all republican resources.

They didn't however because they didn't have sufficient cause to do it. It doesn't help political parties to kick people out over a disagreement, otherwise they will lose influence over time if they abuse it. It is why it is a rare occurrence.

This was to illustrate the subordinate relationship the georgia sec state, has to the head of the republican party.

A relationship you and others have denied existed, hence there couldn't be inappropriate contact.

Well, you were wrong again.

 

[meaner gene]

Except Mueller said that because of the DOJ office of legal counsel policy memo where a sitting president can't be indicted, why he didn't accuse the president of charges he wouldn't have the chance to defend himself from in a court of law.

Mueller was ducking his own stated powers of office, possibly to get around the failure of not finding anything to charge the President with.

This is no different from the 4th circuit decision which says that somebody who can't defend himself, can't be criminally charged.

The DOJ OLC memo says that a sitting president can't be indicted, hence he can't defend himself from charges, and the doctrine of inability to defend applies.

 

[Obejoekenobe]

It is clear you have no understanding the powers of the Special Prosecution, of which I have posted in the forum around 25 times to be ignored. In it states he in the final report to the Attorney General SHALL provide prosecution OR declination decisions.

No no Tommy. Barr has NO part whether to prosecute or not. Barr decides whether to bring charges or not. If Barr had decided to bring charges then he would hand Muellers findings off to a D.A. to prosecute and for a grand jury.to decide if a law was broken by the findings in Muellers report.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

You IGNORED the Congressionally created Special Counsel law, where I post the law one again:

"(c) Closing documentation. At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel. "

LINK

=======

The attorney General upon accepting the REPORT, will decide how to process the report based on the Special Counsels decisions. Barr decided to publish the MUELLER report to the public..... since there were NO Prosecution charges listed anywhere in it.

Stop LYING to yourself.......

Jesus H. Christ.

No wonder you guys live in a bubble. You Trumpies are so far up Trumps ass you need the artificial environment to survive.

Dude, you've spun yourself into a knot here and I'm tired of chasing your stupid ass down a rabbit hole of irrelevance. Just to surmise, you've been arguing my point all night but are just too stupid to see it, as such it's pointless to try and knock you off your vortex of stupidity.

You'll excuse me if I stop wasting my time.