Was the Nashville shooting a hate crime?

[Blaster]

This woman/man hated straight folks.

 

[2aguy]

It is proof to everyone with a working brain who can add 2+2. More guns = more gun deaths.

You are an idiot.......

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
======

The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.


What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

Paper...why crime declined in the 90s

https://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

 

[Curried Goats]

The other developed nations murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years....after they banned guns using the same excuses you are calling for now.....

In our entire 246 year history of criminals using guns for murder, that number is about 2,460,000

Your goal of banning guns leads to mass murder in the 10s of millions........you are a useful idiot for the left....

Russia murdered 25 million
China 70 million....

You don't understand the issues, you have a juvenile outlook and understanding of history, truth, facts and reality.....

Are you arguing the American government is more comparable to Russia and China as opposed to the UK, Canada, Japan... why? Based on what?

 

[2aguy]

This woman/man hated straight folks.

Yes......and she was radicalized and weaponized by the democrat party.

Imagine if Trump had called for Days of Vengeance, and then a Trump supporter had murdered children........the democrats would be rounding up anyone who voted for Trump.........

We have a mentally ill woman radicalized by the democrat party and turned into a weapon for their agendas.....

 

[gipper]

It is proof to everyone with a working brain who can add 2+2. More guns = more gun deaths.

No. We’ve had guns forever. Following your logic, we should have seen mass shootings our entire history.

See? You’re not thinking logically. You’re allowing the elite to think for you.

 

[2aguy]

Are you arguing the American government is more comparable to Russia and China as opposed to the UK, Canada, Japan... why? Based on what?

No....dumb ass..........I am saying any government that has total control over the use of force can and eventually will turn on their people......as we have seen over and over again throughout history and in particular, among leftist governments since 1917........

The left in this country has already used the IRS, DOJ, CIA to target normal Americans.....Mat Taibbi, a journalist who helped expose the FBI censoring people on social media had the IRS show up at his home the day he testified before congress...

You leftists are on a glide path to mass murder......idiots like you just don't understand that because you don't know history.......you think history begins all over when you wake up in the morning....

 

[Frankenstein]

I know right. It's so curious how people could connect guns to gun deaths. Weird.

It's about mental illness, not guns you twit!

 

[kyzr]

Are you arguing the American government is more comparable to Russia and China as opposed to the UK, Canada, Japan... why? Based on what?

How about hiring 87.000 new IRS agents willing to kill?

IRS Deletes Requirement That New Agents Be Willing to Use 'Deadly Force'

Backlash against IRS hiring practices follows criticism alleging that tens of thousands of new agents will be hired and go after poorer Americans.

www.newsweek.com

They said they deleted the "deadly force" thing. Lying coxuckers.

 

[gipper]

How about hiring 87.000 new IRS agents willing to kill?

I bet they’re all armed, but Goats is fine with that.

 

[Curried Goats]

You are an idiot.......

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
======

The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.


What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

Paper...why crime declined in the 90s

https://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

You are an idiot.......

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
======

The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.


What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

Paper...why crime declined in the 90s

https://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Crime fluctuates for various reasons. It rose again in 2020 to 1990 levels. What we need to look at are our guns deaths and murder rates compared to the rest of the developed world. They are astronomically high by comparison.

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

As I pointed out earlier the majority of guns used in crimes in Illinois were brought in from out of State.

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.

How was this force applied? Many Democrats spoke about police reform very few every got any actually done.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

Are you talking about bail reform? The facts are that many of the cities that are seeing an increase in violent crime didn't have any bail reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check/index.html

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

This is of course a lie. The police were a lot more heavy handed in their dealing with BLM protestors than they were Jan 6th ones.

 

[Billiejeens]

Crime fluctuates for various reasons. It rose again in 2020 to 1990 levels. What we need to look at are our guns deaths and murder rates compared to the rest of the developed world. They are astronomically high by comparison.

As I pointed out earlier the majority of guns used in crimes in Illinois were brought in from out of State.

How was this force applied? Many Democrats spoke about police reform very few every got any actually done.

Are you talking about bail reform? The facts are that many of the cities that are seeing an increase in violent crime didn't have any bail reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check/index.html

This is of course a lie. The police were a lot more heavy handed in their dealing with BLM protestors than they were Jan 6th ones.

Omg
You are fucking hilarious.

 

[Curried Goats]

Omg
You are fucking hilarious.

So are you clowns, desperate to consider everything for the disportionate amount of gun violence in this country on anything other than guns.

 

[nomadic5]

What I find disheartening after everyone of these shooting besides the awful deaths, are the number of average Americans who accept the establishment’s propaganda that it’s guns. After every incident, the D Party, MSM, and the rest of the establishment condemn guns. You’d think all Americans would recognize by now the obvious propaganda being pushed on them to give up their 2A rights.

yeh, Karine J-Pierre in one 'interview" with the press didn't even mention the tragedy aspect of the shooting, didn't mention the victims, muchb less offer consolation of any kind... just lectured America about how awful our gun laws are. But as Dan Bongino last night so eloquently said (among other things):

(my words, possibly) Criminals don't give a damn about gun laws

Few in the regular (ha ha to that word) media address the problem ofhow mentally SICK this person was and how an intervention could have prevented this shooting

 

[2aguy]

Crime fluctuates for various reasons. It rose again in 2020 to 1990 levels. What we need to look at are our guns deaths and murder rates compared to the rest of the developed world. They are astronomically high by comparison.

As I pointed out earlier the majority of guns used in crimes in Illinois were brought in from out of State.

How was this force applied? Many Democrats spoke about police reform very few every got any actually done.

Are you talking about bail reform? The facts are that many of the cities that are seeing an increase in violent crime didn't have any bail reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check/index.html

This is of course a lie. The police were a lot more heavy handed in their dealing with BLM protestors than they were Jan 6th ones.

In 2020 it rose again as a direct result of the democrat party.....

1) They began their war on local police...forcing police officers to quit, retire, or simply refuse to do their jobs....allowing criminals to run free

2) democrat party judges, prosecutors, and politicians began pushing "Decarceration," where they are actively releasing violent gun crimnials over and over again, the ones who are doing all of the killing in democrat party controlled cities....

As I pointed out earlier the majority of guns used in crimes in Illinois were brought in from out of State.
That stupid talking point?
Do you understand that the states where the straw buyers are buying those guns do not have as much gun crime as Chicago?
Do you understand that that fact undercuts your stupid talking point?
This brings me to my favorite part.
The gun-grabbers will argue: Guns are shipped into these cities from places without tough gun control laws!

Okay, then shouldn’t these places where all the guns supposedly originate from be even more violent?
FACT: Gun control is a total failure at stopping gun crime.

FACT: Gun control encourages violent crime and criminals.


Nolte: If Gun Control Worked, Democrat-Run Cities Wouldn't Be War Zones

 

[nomadic5]

This explains our exponential jumps in adolescent transgenders. Kids are self diagnosing themselves as transgenders (with gender dysphoria) and it has become the practice of the medical/psychological "professionals' to affirm transgenders and put them on the path of hormones and surgery rather than look for other causes of the children's problems.

whatever happened to the notion that children cannot make life-altering, life-LONG decisions when they are still children?

 

[2aguy]

Crime fluctuates for various reasons. It rose again in 2020 to 1990 levels. What we need to look at are our guns deaths and murder rates compared to the rest of the developed world. They are astronomically high by comparison.

As I pointed out earlier the majority of guns used in crimes in Illinois were brought in from out of State.

How was this force applied? Many Democrats spoke about police reform very few every got any actually done.

Are you talking about bail reform? The facts are that many of the cities that are seeing an increase in violent crime didn't have any bail reform.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check/index.html

This is of course a lie. The police were a lot more heavy handed in their dealing with BLM protestors than they were Jan 6th ones.

No...they weren't, you liar.....

The police in those democrat party controlled cities were ordered to stand down and to not engage the democrat brown shirts........they burned, looted and murdered people without iinterference from the police.......you lying asshole.

 

[2aguy]

whatever happened to the notion that children cannot make life-altering, life-LONG decisions when they are still children?

That changed when the democrats saw they could use these children as weapons against their political enemies......

 

[nomadic5]

I don't care about so much about murder being a "Hate" crime. The murder of the children would not be any more acceptable if the killer did it without feelings or remorse. The kids (and adults) are just as dead either way.

But if the left are going to use the term Hate crime, it needs to be used equitably. It can't be a hate crime when a fag... or whatever.. is killed but not when a Christian is

 

[Curried Goats]

In 2020 it rose again as a direct result of the democrat party.....

1) They began their war on local police...forcing police officers to quit, retire, or simply refuse to do their jobs....allowing criminals to run free

2) democrat party judges, prosecutors, and politicians began pushing "Decarceration," where they are actively releasing violent gun crimnials over and over again, the ones who are doing all of the killing in democrat party controlled cities....

As I pointed out earlier the majority of guns used in crimes in Illinois were brought in from out of State.
That stupid talking point?
Do you understand that the states where the straw buyers are buying those guns do not have as much gun crime as Chicago?
Do you understand that that fact undercuts your stupid talking point?
This brings me to my favorite part.
The gun-grabbers will argue: Guns are shipped into these cities from places without tough gun control laws!

Okay, then shouldn’t these places where all the guns supposedly originate from be even more violent?
FACT: Gun control is a total failure at stopping gun crime.

FACT: Gun control encourages violent crime and criminals.


Nolte: If Gun Control Worked, Democrat-Run Cities Wouldn't Be War Zones

Crime also went up in cities that had no bail reform you Dipshit.

The only variable that explains our over abundence of gun deaths and murder compared to rest of the developed world is the availability and access of guns.

 

[Orangecat]

What a conundrum for the left, as their silly, redundant theory of "hate crimes" was supposed to only be used to add extra punishment to right leaning people who commit crimes against minorities.