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I just provided a detailed list of the good they have done in post #436. Which is long, distinguished and disproportionate to their tiny numbers. I presented factual evidence Where's your list of the bad things they have done? Where's your factual evidence?Your claim that Jews have "overwhelmingly" been a force for good, is false. You have zero evidence for that. I can counteract your positive contributions with some severe negative ones.
The Jews learned the flood story during the exile in Babylon and borrowed it. It a wonderful story about redemption, but it's fiction.I'll say this, you have a penchant for stupidity.
No. It's plain old facts (see below). What harm have they done?
0.2% OF WORLD'S POPULATION
14.1 Million Jews
NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS:
Literature
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer
World Peace
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Chemistry
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Rober Fogel
Medicine
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - David Baltimore
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
Physics
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L. Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1995 - Martin Perl
07 Judaism
The Jewish Contribution to World Civilization
Not according to them it wasn't. It was due to their chosenness. Their contributions disproportionate to their numbers certainly backs that up. As well as their continued existence and success in the face of adversity.When the Jews became secular and thanks to their emphasis on education, they contributed greatly to science, but that is despite Judaism, not because of it. These are overwhelmingly secular, atheist Jews, not religious ones. However, the secular Jews in their hatred for religion, especially Christianity, are behind most of the social movements that have led to all of the chaos we see today in society, with the LGBT and ravenous, man-hating feminism, and I can go down the list (you can add secular Zionism to that too). Even the spread of atheism in the modern Western world, especially in the US, is thanks to Jews.
I would be for it, if their atheism wasn't nihilistic and destructive, which unfortunately it is. My atheistic-agnostic beliefs and values don't conflict with social conservatism. I agree with Christians on many social issues (their family values..etc) whereas secular Jews are liberals who hate and abhor social conservatives and their values. I don't, I'm an atheist-agnostic who supports social conservatism and family values.
Not according to them it wasn't. It was due to their chosenness. Their contributions disproportionate to their numbers certainly backs that up. As well as their continued existence and success in the face of adversity.
So where's this list of bad things they have done that has given you such a poor opinion of them?
Successful behaviors naturally lead to success, so is it gobbledygook or just your wishful thinking. Again... their disproportionate contributions aren't an accident.Their so-called "chosenness" is gobbledygook. You're under the spell of Jew-Magick.
I will in a few hours, post how they've harmed society and the United States. Everything good that you listed is balanced with all of the harmful results of their other actions. I need to go now and do something off the computer, but I will come back later and post that.
Most of the gospels were written by the end of the first century.
where is the appendix for the documents used and preserved for verification and the authenticity of what is included in their publication.
You just said it. Successful behavior, or good patterns of behavior can lead to higher education, access to scholarships, and research funding, If Judaism did anything good for them, it's their emphasis on reading, studying..etc. When most of the Western world was illiterate the Jews were literate, and educated, due to their study of the Torah, Talmud..etc.Successful behaviors naturally lead to success, so is it gobbledygook or just your wishful thinking. Again... their disproportionate contributions aren't an accident.
Where's that list of bad things they did?
If Jesus was not raised from the dead there is nothing to believe in.
You aren't a Christian and you know it.
I'm certainly not a fundamentalist nor do I believe in Darby or Hal Lindsey. What does that mean to you?
I don't ascribe to them either, but I do know what it takes to be a Christian. You aren't one.
Yes I am a fundamentalist. To you that is a four letter word, to me? It describes who I am.
Sorry, but I can't read this until you either produce a list of "the great harm" the Jewish people have committed or admit that you didn't think through your accusation in post #431 and may have misspoken.You just said it. Successful behavior, or good patterns of behavior can lead to higher education, access to scholarships, and research funding, If Judaism did anything good for them, it's their emphasis on reading, studying..etc. When most of the Western world was illiterate the Jews were literate, and educated, due to their study of the Torah, Talmud..etc.
This was mostly an advantage that they had in the Christian world, not in the Islamic countries where they also lived. Muslims in general, also had a tradition of literacy and study, that wasn't limited to just monks in monasteries. You're attributing a supernatural "chosenness" element that is unfounded and leads to a lot of pain and suffering for everyone, including the Jews themselves, who are infected with these "chosenness" ideas.
When I return from doing what I have to do away from the computer, I will post my evidence.
Sorry, but I can't read this until you either produce a list of "the great harm" the Jewish people have committed or admit that you didn't think through your accusation in post #431 and may have misspoken.