Was the attack on the Benghazi Consulate an "Act of Terror"?

[Sallow]

Another LOLberal deflection from the topic. Do you ever manage to stay on task, Shallow?
the thread is clearly about defending the scandal. Clearly.

The OP is mine.

The Topic is "Was the Benghazi Attack an Act of Terror".

Given:
-The consulate was housing a CIA outpost.
-The consulate may have had captured militants.
-Geneva affords no protections to spies.
-No international protocol allows for spies.

Was it?

It's a pretty simple question.

 

[R.D.]

That's not what this thread is about.

The burning question is what is this thread about

 

[thereisnospoon]

As part of the Senate conclusions:



And it seems that the annex may have been holding prisoners, which was one of the reasons for the attack.


Given that Libya's government was overthrown by both France and the United States and given that these militants were still involved in fighting off what they perceived as invaders.

Is an attack on a foreign spy headquarters an "Act of Terror"?

Or is it now legitimate for any country to keep spies in diplomatic consulates?

All attacks are terrifying. The Benghazi attack was an act of terrorism by terrorist.

So it's "terrorism" to fight foreign hostiles in your country?

Lets be clear about this.

Let's see, WHO is in the White House? What's the guy's name who is in charge?
If you give Obama credit for the positives, you must hold him responsible for the negatives.
In any event ,this is another lib troll deflection thread.
It'll end up in badlands or some other forum for which no one cares.
Nice try though.
Jesus Christ....Next thing we will read from one of you deep thinkers is the people within the confines of the Consulate were "enemy combatants"..
Hey shit for brains, Libya is a terrorist rogue country which is subject to violent regime change from within on a daily basis. You needn't wring your hands anymore.
Of course any attempt to convince one of you Northeastern Blue state elitists that you are wrong is futile. You know because you know.
Guess what. There is a large difference between believing and knowing.
You believe. You believe because you made a poor choice in voting for Obama. And because you lib elitists cannot ever admit you made a poor choice, you convince yourselves you are correct 100% of the time.
I wanted to slap you around a little before I unsub from this vapid thread.
Stow it.

 

[thereisnospoon]

That's not what this thread is about.

The burning question is what is this thread about

It's about Sallow and his undying need as a liberal elitist prick to defend a fellow liberal elitist prick.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

So it's "terrorism" to fight foreign hostiles in your country?

Lets be clear about this.

Not "terrorism", but I imagine terrifying. At least for the foreign hostiles.

Terrorism is the unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

terrorism

Okay.

So is war terrorism now?

It depends on if the war is lawful. In the case of the Iraq War and the war in Afghanistan both were and are lawful conflicts.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Regardless, the deaths were preventable. The president and his cronies lied about the cause, and LOLberals continue to try and deflect the scandal away and into something else. Such as the OP has done here.

Of course they were "preventable".

Most deaths are "preventable". Like if President George W. Bush never launched an invasion of Iraq based on the lies he told Congress and the American people, 4000 American Military and 100K civilian Iraqis would be enjoying their lives and families.

That's not what this thread is about.

Bush had congressional approval to go to war. And it was a Democratic controlled congress that gave him the authority.

Facts are a ***** huh?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Another LOLberal deflection from the topic. Do you ever manage to stay on task, Shallow?
the thread is clearly about defending the scandal. Clearly.

The OP is mine.

The Topic is "Was the Benghazi Attack an Act of Terror".

Given:
-The consulate was housing a CIA outpost.
-The consulate may have had captured militants.
-Geneva affords no protections to spies.
-No international protocol allows for spies.

Was it?

It's a pretty simple question.

Spies? Who were the spies and what evidence do you have?

 

[skookerasbil]

classic example of the modern progressive changing the subject to something stoopid!!

 

[Sallow]

All attacks are terrifying. The Benghazi attack was an act of terrorism by terrorist.

So it's "terrorism" to fight foreign hostiles in your country?

Lets be clear about this.

Let's see, WHO is in the White House? What's the guy's name who is in charge?
If you give Obama credit for the positives, you must hold him responsible for the negatives.
In any event ,this is another lib troll deflection thread.
It'll end up in badlands or some other forum for which no one cares.
Nice try though.
Jesus Christ....Next thing we will read from one of you deep thinkers is the people within the confines of the Consulate were "enemy combatants"..
Hey shit for brains, Libya is a terrorist rogue country which is subject to violent regime change from within on a daily basis. You needn't wring your hands anymore.
Of course any attempt to convince one of you Northeastern Blue state elitists that you are wrong is futile. You know because you know.
Guess what. There is a large difference between believing and knowing.
You believe. You believe because you made a poor choice in voting for Obama. And because you lib elitists cannot ever admit you made a poor choice, you convince yourselves you are correct 100% of the time.
I wanted to slap you around a little before I unsub from this vapid thread.
Stow it.

What?

You really don't know what you are talking about..

Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi[6] (Arabic: معمر محمد أبو منيار القذافي* /ˈmoʊ.əmɑr ɡəˈdɑːfi/ About this sound audio (help·info)) (c. 1942 – 20 October 2011), commonly known as Colonel Gaddafi,[nb 2] was a Libyan revolutionary and politician, and the de facto ruler of Libya for 42 years. Taking power in a 1969 coup d'etat, he ruled as Revolutionary Chairman of the Libyan Arab Republic from 1969 to 1977 and then as the "Brother Leader" of the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya from 1977 to 2011, when he was ousted in the Libyan civil war. After beginning as an Arab nationalist and Arab socialist, he later governed the country according to his own ideology, the Third International Theory. He eventually embraced Pan-Africanism, and served as Chairperson of the African Union from 2009 to 2010.
Muammar Gaddafi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Educate yourself.

 

[Sallow]

Another LOLberal deflection from the topic. Do you ever manage to stay on task, Shallow?
the thread is clearly about defending the scandal. Clearly.

The OP is mine.

The Topic is "Was the Benghazi Attack an Act of Terror".

Given:
-The consulate was housing a CIA outpost.
-The consulate may have had captured militants.
-Geneva affords no protections to spies.
-No international protocol allows for spies.

Was it?

It's a pretty simple question.

Spies? Who were the spies and what evidence do you have?

The bipartisan report laid out more than a dozen findings regarding the assaults on a diplomatic compound and a CIA annex in the city. It said the State Department failed to increase security at its mission despite warnings, and blamed intelligence agencies for not sharing information about the existence of the CIA outpost with the U.S. military.
Senate report: Attacks on U.S. compounds in Benghazi could have been prevented - The Washington Post

CIA:

The CIA has three traditional principal activities, which are gathering information about foreign governments, corporations, and individuals; analyzing that information, along with intelligence gathered by other U.S. intelligence agencies, in order to provide national security intelligence assessment to senior United States policymakers; and, upon the request of the President of the United States, carrying out or overseeing covert activities and some tactical operations by its own employees, by members of the U.S. military, or by other partners.[11][12][13][14][15] It can, for example, exert foreign political influence through its tactical divisions, such as the Special Activities Division.[16]
Central Intelligence Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Intelligence Gathering:

Espionage or spying involves a government or individual obtaining information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information.[1] Espionage is inherently clandestine, as it is taken for granted that it is unwelcome and, in many cases illegal and punishable by law. It is a subset of intelligence gathering, which otherwise may be conducted from public sources and using perfectly legal and ethical means. It is crucial to distinguish espionage from intelligence gathering, as the latter does not necessarily involve espionage, but often collates open-source information.
Espionage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know these things are completely new to you..so I am helping.

Anything else you need to learn, son?

 

[Sallow]

Regardless, the deaths were preventable. The president and his cronies lied about the cause, and LOLberals continue to try and deflect the scandal away and into something else. Such as the OP has done here.

Of course they were "preventable".

Most deaths are "preventable". Like if President George W. Bush never launched an invasion of Iraq based on the lies he told Congress and the American people, 4000 American Military and 100K civilian Iraqis would be enjoying their lives and families.

That's not what this thread is about.

Bush had congressional approval to go to war. And it was a Democratic controlled congress that gave him the authority.

Facts are a ***** huh?

He lied to get it.

Facts are a *****, huh?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Any act attacking people that places them in fear of death is an act of terror
But the question should be was the attack on the Benghazi Consulate a coordinated "terrorist attack" I say it was.

 

[Sallow]

Any act attacking people that places them in fear of death is an act of terror
But the question should be was the attack on the Benghazi Consulate a coordinated "terrorist attack" I say it was.

So spies are okay?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Of course they were "preventable".

Most deaths are "preventable". Like if President George W. Bush never launched an invasion of Iraq based on the lies he told Congress and the American people, 4000 American Military and 100K civilian Iraqis would be enjoying their lives and families.

That's not what this thread is about.

Bush had congressional approval to go to war. And it was a Democratic controlled congress that gave him the authority.

Facts are a ***** huh?

He lied to get it.

Facts are a *****, huh?

No he didn't lie.

In its official report, the Silberman-Robb Commission evaluated only American intelligence on Iraq, not what the administration did with it. But Judge Silberman saw more than enough to draw his own conclusions. During a recent interview with me, he spoke freely about his views for the first time. “As a federal judge I am very careful to stay out of politics,” Silberman says. “But [now that several years have passed] I am inclined to think that … [for] historical purposes I can give an opinion.”

Did the Bush administration distort or misconstrue intelligence to show that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction? No. The intelligence agencies did that by themselves.

The intelligence agencies, Silberman says, “clearly indicated that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. They made that clear to both President Clinton and President Bush. They made that clear in the national intelligence estimate of 2002.” How did the intelligence agencies get such a basic, vital question so thoroughly wrong? “A lot of fundamental and almost amateurish mistakes.”

Source:

Who said in October 2002: "There has been some debate over how 'imminent' a threat Iraq poses. I do believe Iraq poses an imminent threat. I also believe after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated. . . . To insist on further evidence could put some of our fellow Americans at risk. Can we afford to take that chance? I do not think we can.

It wasn't Bush.


It was Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence

'Bush Lied'? If Only It Were That Simple.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Of course they were "preventable".

Most deaths are "preventable". Like if President George W. Bush never launched an invasion of Iraq based on the lies he told Congress and the American people, 4000 American Military and 100K civilian Iraqis would be enjoying their lives and families.

That's not what this thread is about.

Bush had congressional approval to go to war. And it was a Democratic controlled congress that gave him the authority.

Facts are a ***** huh?

He lied to get it.

Facts are a *****, huh?

Telling a lie about someone lying isn't going well for you. Not with the tons of evidence that contradict your lies.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The OP is mine.

The Topic is "Was the Benghazi Attack an Act of Terror".

Given:
-The consulate was housing a CIA outpost.
-The consulate may have had captured militants.
-Geneva affords no protections to spies.
-No international protocol allows for spies.

Was it?

It's a pretty simple question.

Spies? Who were the spies and what evidence do you have?

CIA:

The CIA has three traditional principal activities, which are gathering information about foreign governments, corporations, and individuals; analyzing that information, along with intelligence gathered by other U.S. intelligence agencies, in order to provide national security intelligence assessment to senior United States policymakers; and, upon the request of the President of the United States, carrying out or overseeing covert activities and some tactical operations by its own employees, by members of the U.S. military, or by other partners.[11][12][13][14][15] It can, for example, exert foreign political influence through its tactical divisions, such as the Special Activities Division.[16]
Central Intelligence Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Intelligence Gathering:

Espionage or spying involves a government or individual obtaining information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information.[1] Espionage is inherently clandestine, as it is taken for granted that it is unwelcome and, in many cases illegal and punishable by law. It is a subset of intelligence gathering, which otherwise may be conducted from public sources and using perfectly legal and ethical means. It is crucial to distinguish espionage from intelligence gathering, as the latter does not necessarily involve espionage, but often collates open-source information.
Espionage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know these things are completely new to you..so I am helping.

Anything else you need to learn, son?

Damn that's a stretch even for you.

 

[Sallow]

Bush had congressional approval to go to war. And it was a Democratic controlled congress that gave him the authority.

Facts are a ***** huh?

He lied to get it.

Facts are a *****, huh?

Telling a lie about someone lying isn't going well for you. Not with the tons of evidence that contradict your lies.

Prior to the speech which Bush used the Aluminum Tubing as evidence that Iraq was reconstituting it's nuclear arms Program, the CIA told him not to include it as they would not certify that.

Bush kept it in, using instead the British Intelligence Agency as verification.

That..is a lie.

 

[Sallow]

Spies? Who were the spies and what evidence do you have?

CIA:


Intelligence Gathering:

Espionage or spying involves a government or individual obtaining information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information.[1] Espionage is inherently clandestine, as it is taken for granted that it is unwelcome and, in many cases illegal and punishable by law. It is a subset of intelligence gathering, which otherwise may be conducted from public sources and using perfectly legal and ethical means. It is crucial to distinguish espionage from intelligence gathering, as the latter does not necessarily involve espionage, but often collates open-source information.
Espionage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know these things are completely new to you..so I am helping.

Anything else you need to learn, son?

Damn that's a stretch even for you.

What stretch?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Any act attacking people that places them in fear of death is an act of terror
But the question should be was the attack on the Benghazi Consulate a coordinated "terrorist attack" I say it was.

So spies are okay?

Spies?

 

[Vox]

yes, it was. And that what was reported to our POTUS minutes after it happened.

yet for weeks he and his minions were screeching about the video