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I believe the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Peter are docetic and believe there is a god of the OT and another of the NT.And did these Gnostic Christians before the canon hold different beliefs about there being two Gods, etc? Are you aware of any Gnostic gospels that discussed two Gods?
I'll accept, as I've said, anything that shows me something supernatural.There's no evidence you will accept. You can't even define a decent perception of what you claimed you looked for.
No, I said I found an answer at age 12 but I never said I stopped looking. I'm here after all trying to find different answers that make more sense than mine. Still looking...And you were twelve years old when you did that and stopped looking. Your words.
I believe some might interpret that but that's not what they are saying.I believe the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Peter are docetic and believe there is a god of the OT and another of the NT.
I'll accept, as I've said, anything that shows me something supernatural.
No, I said I found an answer at age 12 but I never said I stopped looking. I'm here after all trying to find different answers that make more sense than mine. Still looking...
I'm an expert in the Gnostics but I'll stand by my point that there can be no heresy until there is orthodoxy.I believe some might interpret that but that's not what they are saying.
You've never convinced me that it does. So far as I know this theory is unique to you.The universe shouldn't exist to create intelligence.
I'm pretty sure the term 'confirmation bias' is yours and not mine and I don't accept it.Actually that's not what you said. You said you made up your mind by age 12. Everything that followed was the pursuit of confirmation bias.
Like I have tried to get you to see that just because there may have been a creator of the universe doesn't mean he sent his son to earth 14 billion years later. And you call my perception of God silly??Like I said before, you didn't even have a realistic perception of what you were looking for. You still to this day cannot force yourself to even try. I have tried to get you to look beyond your silly perception of God but you are stubborn. That's how strong your bias is.
You've always seen what you want to see so it's no surprise that you would take such a silly position in the first place.I'm an expert in the Gnostics but I'll stand by my point that there can be no heresy until there is orthodoxy.
You've never convinced me that it does. So far as I know this theory is unique to you.
I'm pretty sure the term 'confirmation bias' is yours and not mine and I don't accept it.
Like I have tried to get you to see that just because there may have been a creator of the universe doesn't mean he sent his son to earth 14 billion years later. And you call my perception of God silly??
I feel bad that such an obvious gap in your logic is unrecognized.It's not my job to convince you. I couldn't care less that wander around trying to fill your godvoid.
Feel free to explain.That's some crackerjack logic there, chief.
You are drawn to discussing God. You can't help yourself. It's hardwired into you like a moth to a flame.Re: I'm an expert in the Gnostics but I'll stand by my point that there can be no heresy until there is orthodoxy.
Oops, typo: I'm NOT an expert in the Gnostics
I feel bad that such an obvious gap in your logic is unrecognized.
Feel free to explain.
He was indeed a human being, if he actually existed for which there is no solid evidence. He was not from a virgin births or the other crap they dispenseThe central tenets of Christianity are that Jesus was God in human form, died on the Cross, was physically resurrected and then ascended to Heaven. From a logical viewpoint, I have the following questions:
1. If Jesus was a human being, he would have had 64 chromosomes, 32 from his mother and 32 from his father. The only exception would be if he was cloned from his mother. In that case wouldn't he have been female?
No. Resurrection is impossible. It was inv e need by religion to give the impression only gods can do it. It is a complete lie and has never happened.2. After Jesus died on the Cross, was he physically resurrected as a human being?
Levitation is trickery.If so, how did he ascend to Heaven? Is Heaven a physical place?
The closest you will get to heaven after death is the incorrectly named residence of every human being who was buried. Its called a cemetery.Do other human beings live there as well? If not, why not?
Yes, he was lifted up, exalted, like a police officer is lifted up for heroism. He did not depart. “I am with you always,” he assured his friends before his ascension (Mt 28:20). No one actually saw Jesus float up into space. Again, the word is epairō, to exalt.Again...........the scriptures declare, Acts 1:1-11, "...............as they were looking on, He was lifted up, and a could took Him out of their sight........"
Unfortunately, the term heresy is misapplied, in my opinion. Heresy ought not to be a deviation from orthodoxy but rather a deviation from scripture.I'm an expert in the Gnostics but I'll stand by my point that there can be no heresy until there is orthodoxy.
JwoodieHe was indeed a human being, if he actually existed for which there is no solid evidence. He was not from a virgin births or the other crap they dispense
No. Resurrection is impossible. It was inv e need by religion to give the impression only gods can do it. It is a complete lie and has never happened.
Levitation is trickery.
There is no heaven. The believers will invent many scenarios. The popular one is it's spiritual so atheists cant prove it doesn't exist, nor can they prove it does.
The closest you will get to heaven after death is the incorrectly named residence of every human being who was buried. Its called a cemetery.
Or, like the Big Lie of election fraud, it is all around me and impossible to ignoreYou are drawn to discussing God. You can't help yourself. It's hardwired into you like a moth to a flame.
If he did all that, you'd think he'd sign his work.Apparently your complaint is that God didn't do enough magic for you. One would have thought creating a universe that produced life and intelligence would be the more impressive option.
Heresy is someone else's interpretation of scripture.Unfortunately, the term heresy is misapplied, in my opinion. Heresy ought not to be a deviation from orthodoxy but rather a deviation from scripture.
That's odd because the vast majority of atheists do.Or, like the Big Lie of election fraud, it is all around me and impossible to ignore
If he did all that, you'd think he'd sign his work.
Would you kindly point me to it?He did. You just are blind to seeing it.
It's all around you and even in you. You just are blind to it is all. But it's why you keep coming back to discuss it.Would you kindly point me to it?
Rather vague don't you think? I keep looking for answers, not new age pabulum.It's all around you and even in you. You just are blind to it is all. But it's why you keep coming back to discuss it.
Not for me it wasn't. I hope you don't mind if I don't believe that you have looked for answers. You couldn't even find how the Gnostic Heresy began in the 2nd century. So, no. You only look for what you want to find.Rather vague don't you think? I keep looking for answers, not new age pabulum.
Maybe you need to dig deeper? Contemporary scholarship largely agrees that Gnosticism has Jewish Christian origins, originating in the late first century AD in nonrabbinical Jewish sects and early Christian sects.Not for me it wasn't. I hope you don't mind if I don't believe that you have looked for answers. You couldn't even find how the Gnostic Heresy began in the 2nd century. So, no. You only look for what you want to find.
