Was Hitler a Christian?

[Batcat]

I think he was. But Himmler wasnt, the occultism came from Himmler and the black sun rituals.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. ~ Adolf Hitler

Lots of politicians claim to be Christian but act like they have no concept of how a Christian should behave.

Fortunately it is not my job to judge others. That is beyond my pay grade.

However on Judgement Day I would prefer not to be in Hitler’s shoes.

 

[there4eyeM]

"Actions speak louder than words." says a cliché. In this case, it applies. Obviously, Adolf was not a Christian. Who cares what that lying impersonation said, about that or anything else?

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

He was a left-wing nationalist that wanted government control over every facet of German society. That's a left-wing principle, not right-wing.

Fascism is left-wing, is it?

 

[frigidweirdo]

I think he was. But Himmler wasnt, the occultism came from Himmler and the black sun rituals.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. ~ Adolf Hitler

He was born into a Christian world, but rejected Christianity. And he tried to make Nazism his religion.

 

[DudleySmith]

Fascism is left-wing, is it?

It can be; over 300 big ass giant multi-national corporations support BLM and the Red Chinese efforts to undermine the U.S. Himmler and Goebbels were big fans of the German 'National Bolshevism' movement, and the Strasserites dominated the Nazi Party until Hitler amassed a large enough private army to run then out of the Party and murder the Strasser brothers, or one of them at least, in 1933. So yeah, just because they use commie rhetoric doesn't mean they are anything but totalitarian gangsters; they all look alike to most of their victims, 'right' and 'left' become distinctions without a difference.

It is you 'left wing' commies and 'Progressives' who are shilling for the big corps and banking interests these days. they can sell cars to middle class Red Chinese Cadre and make money as well as to Americans, and the commies will guarantee them the use of slave labor and no pesky pollution controls to build them, same as Hitler did.

 

[K9Buck]

Fascism is left-wing, is it?

Of course.

 

[DudleySmith]

I think he was. But Himmler wasnt, the occultism came from Himmler and the black sun rituals.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. ~ Adolf Hitler

Going by what a politician writes and says for public consumption should never br taken as fact. See Thomas Jefferson's screed against slavery and his professed 'neutrality' for America re foreign policy as examples of a politician not even remotely practicing what they claim to believe at any given time. They will say what they need to in order to get the most votes. Jefferson went on to be a major slave trader and got rich off it, financing Monticello with slaves and enthusiastically reccomending it to his friends as a great investment. He was a domestic breeder, which is also why him and many others supported the ban on importation of slaves around 1803, when the cotton industry took off as the Virginia planters were getting out of the rice and tobacco trade and went into the slave breeding business.

 

[irosie91]

Actually he was an Essene.

there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus was an Essene (not that it matters)

 

[irosie91]

not only did adolf not dis-avow Catholicism------Pius XII did not dis-avow
adolf either

for K-9 who seems to not accept the idea that adolf did not dis-avow
Catholicism, he did reject the jewish aspects as had Martin Luther and
he preferred to think of Jesus as something like a Viking but these adaptations
were already acceptable to many German Lutherans and Catholics. As to
Pope Pius----you got a link to his negative comment on adolf----or
excommunication ?

 

[K9Buck]

for K-9 who seems to not accept the idea that adolf did not dis-avow
Catholicism

I don't know myself as I was born two decades after Hitler died. The historians that have been cited in this thread say that Hitler disavowed ALL religions. But if you want to claim that Hitler was a true and faithful servant of Christ, that's ok with me.

 

[DudleySmith]

there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus was an Essene (not that it matters)

They weren't an evangelical sect, and reclusive,something christian are very much not, which is why it was so easy to murder so many of them. And, the more they were murdered, the more popular they got.

 

[DudleySmith]

for K-9 who seems to not accept the idea that adolf did not dis-avow
Catholicism, he did reject the jewish aspects as had Martin Luther and
he preferred to think of Jesus as something like a Viking but these adaptations
were already acceptable to many German Lutherans and Catholics. As to
Pope Pius----you got a link to his negative comment on adolf----or
excommunication ?

You mean like Jews in the early 1900's not only refusing to condemn the Turks' genocides of Armenians and Greeks, and in fact wrote apologia for them, and Israel's govt. just recently refusing to condemn them again?

And, again, Israel is providing weapons to Muslims to commit another genocide against Armenians. Hard to snivel about one side when your own is not particularly innocent in such matters. Catholics rescued far more Jews than Jews ever rescued Catholics from Hitler, and he killed a lot of those.

 

[irosie91]

They weren't an evangelical sect, and reclusive,something christian are very much not, which is why it was so easy to murder so many of them. And, the more they were murdered, the more popular they got.

absolutely true that they were not evangelical and were reclusive-----they were a very small sect and very anti-rome which did have an appeal-----very socialistic too. They got murdered
when they entered into society and opened their mouths. IMO--the most likely possible
Essene was John the Baptist

 

[irosie91]

You mean like Jews in the early 1900's not only refusing to condemn the Turks' genocides of Armenians and Greeks, and in fact wrote apologia for them, and Israel's govt. just recently refusing to condemn them again?

And, again, Israel is providing weapons to Muslims to commit another genocide against Armenians. Hard to snivel about one side when your own is not particularly innocent in such matters. Catholics rescued far more Jews than Jews ever rescued Catholics from Hitler, and he killed a lot of those.

In the early 1900s jews were buying land from the Ottomans in "palestine" which was
and is sorta illegal under the stench of Shariah law. ""JEWS"" were not a political
entity. Who asked the opinion of the local jew on the issue of the ARMENIANS?
I know the opinion of jews on that atrocity-----AN ATROCITY!!
I am well passed 70 but I learned about the Armenian genocide when I was 7. --that
was in the 1950s. I lived in a very christian town--------christians had NO IDEA-----nor did
they care. You got a link to Jewish support and apologia of the Armenian genocide circa
1915? Recently I had to EXPLAIN to christian friends that the Movie AMERIKA AMERIKA
by ELIA KAZAN touched on the issue and that Elia Kazan was not a communist jew as
was the popular opinion of that benighted crowd. Try to be honest----when did
you FIRST understand that Elia Kazan was not a communist jew? (well---sorta communist,
but not jew) As to "PROVIDING WEAPONS" ----try again-----Azerbaijan bought some
drones from Israel. I am familiar with nazi propaganda----I grew up in WASPVILLE, USA.
If Azerbaijan had purchased their weapons from the local Methodist church-----
there would have been no notice

 

[ChemEngineer]

No you are ignoring it...try reading Hitlers (sic) known writings...from Mein Kemp (sic) on ...he repeatedly said that he was a catholic. (sic) Any claims that he wasn't come from the catholic (sic) propaganda machine.

Try using proper English. Try spelling "Mein Kamph" correctly when you cite it.
You don't even capitalize the proper noun, Catholic, and yet presume to inform and enlighten others.
There are numerous quotes of Hitler's contempt for religion and Christianity. But his slaughter of millions of Jewish believers shouts down any atheist claims of his religious beliefs.

I suspect that you smoke hemp and voted for Biden. You sound like the Leftist atheist propaganda machine.

 

[ChemEngineer]

I don't know I saw photos of Obama in a church, I never saw photos of trump in the church. That tells you a lot.

Here is a photograph of Obama the Muslim holding up his finger in Shahada, a Muslim symbol, shared by his fellow Muslims as they show off the heads they cut off of non-Muslims.

His fellow Muslims are all smiling.

You can't find any pictures of Trump "bearing witness" can you cowboy....

Are you smiling now? Like all these Obama sycophants?

 

[ChemEngineer]

Fascism is left-wing, is it?

Are you kidding? Obviously you fell for the Democrats' decades long narrative of fascism being "right wing." A very informative book for you would be Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg.

The first fascist was Benito Mussolini, who started out as a school teacher. Funny, that.
Now the fascists at NEA are brainwashing all kids in America that we are "institutionally racist" and evil and socialism is just wonderful. And you fall for all that.

 

[DudleySmith]

In the early 1900s jews were buying land from the Ottomans in "palestine" which was
and is sorta illegal under the stench of Shariah law. ""JEWS"" were not a political
entity. Who asked the opinion of the local jew on the issue of the ARMENIANS?
I know the opinion of jews on that atrocity-----AN ATROCITY!!
I am well passed 70 but I learned about the Armenian genocide when I was 7. --that
was in the 1950s. I lived in a very christian town--------christians had NO IDEA-----nor did
they care. You got a link to Jewish support and apologia of the Armenian genocide circa
1915? Recently I had to EXPLAIN to christian friends that the Movie AMERIKA AMERIKA
by ELIA KAZAN touched on the issue and that Elia Kazan was not a communist jew as
was the popular opinion of that benighted crowd. Try to be honest----when did
you FIRST understand that Elia Kazan was not a communist jew? (well---sorta communist,
but not jew) As to "PROVIDING WEAPONS" ----try again-----Azerbaijan bought some
drones from Israel. I am familiar with nazi propaganda----I grew up in WASPVILLE, USA.
If Azerbaijan had purchased their weapons from the local Methodist church-----
there would have been no notice

My links all come from Israeli newspapers, so you wouldn't like them either; it seems there are still honest Jewish journalists who won't help the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox get away with lying and disinformation. As for Jews in Palestine, they had organization and advocacy groups, and they found it expedient to suck Kemal's dick and thank him for the privilege. The Pope did the same with Hitler, but unlike the Pope, many local priests and monks hid Jews and helped them get to Spain and other countries. No record of Palestinian Jews helping Greek or Armenian Christians flee Kemal.

 

[DudleySmith]

absolutely true that they were not evangelical and were reclusive-----they were a very small sect and very anti-rome which did have an appeal-----very socialistic too. They got murdered
when they entered into society and opened their mouths. IMO--the most likely possible
Essene was John the Baptist

It might be possible, but if so he was a heretic and got thrown out; the Essenes left a lot of writing behind and there were major theological differences. The NT doesn't mention the Essenes at all. There are several 'similarities' because Christians were essentially a Jewish sect, and Jesus's ministry was based on the 'old school Torah' and a contempt for the ' modern' Temple cult. Both John and Mathew could have been Pharisees themselves and demonstrate an extensive knowledge of that sect. I tend to think John certainly was, and we know Paul was, hence Luke's obvious Pharisaic influences.

 

[irosie91]

It might be possible, but if so he was a heretic and got thrown out; the Essenes left a lot of writing behind and there were major theological differences. The NT doesn't mention the Essenes at all. There are several 'similarities' because Christians were essentially a Jewish sect, and Jesus's ministry was based on the 'old school Torah' and a contempt for the ' modern' Temple cult. Both John and Mathew could have been Pharisees themselves and demonstrate an extensive knowledge of that sect. I tend to think John certainly was, and we know Paul was, hence Luke's obvious Pharisaic influences.

Dudley, dear. You are WAY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE. The essenes MAY or MAY NOT
have written the Dead Sea Scrolls. What "major theological differences" do you detect
between JOHN THE BAPTIST and whatever group of essenes? What contempt for what
"modern Temple cult" ? To what "john" do you refer? There is nothing in the NT to
suggest that Matthew was a Pharisee Luke was a GREEK physician and NOT a PHARISEE
lets start from the beginning ALEPH BET GIMMEL........