Was Ann Coulter Right About Trump and H1-B Immigration?

[JimBowie1958]

She slammed on Trump for play fighting about the H1-B program, and now the acting DHS Sec has admitted 66k H2-B workers while there are still many Americans looking for work.

DHS Chief Chad Wolf Approves 35K H-2B Foreign Workers to Take U.S. Jobs

The decision to add more foreign workers to the already inflated U.S. labor market, Wolf said, is “intended” to benefit American businesses and American workers, though the latter was not explained.

Overall, two batches of foreign workers will be available to American businesses, with 20,000 foreign workers available at the beginning of April and 15,000 foreign workers available on May 15.

This is the fourth consecutive year that President Trump’s DHS has approved more foreign workers to be imported by American businesses through the H-2B visa program. Wolf’s decision follows the same direction that former DHS Secretaries Kevin McAleenan, Kirstjen Nielsen, and John Kelly implemented.

Wolf’s announcement comes with new measures to “reduce fraud and abuse” in the H-2B visa program, which a handful of Republican and Democrat senators have warned against expanding.

The H-2B visa program has been widely used by businesses to drag down the wages of American workers in landscaping, conservation work, the meatpacking industry, the construction industry, and fishing jobs, a 2019 study from the Center for Immigration Studies finds.

When comparing the wages of H-2B foreign workers to the national wage average for each blue-collar industry, about 21 out of 25 of the industries offered lower wages to foreign workers than Americans.​

 

[Augustine_]

She slammed on Trump for play fighting about the H1-B program, and now the acting DHS Sec has admitted 66k H2-B workers while there are still many Americans looking for work.

LOL about that lowest unemployment rate ever

 

[Picaro]

Republicans were all for criminal illegal immigration, until it dawned on them Saint Ronald's 'Amnesty' scam meant that soon they would be a big voting bloc in three of our largest states, then suddenly they're all about limiting immigration, but as we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce still supports the labor racketeering, as does a substantial number of the RNC, so don't anybody hold their breaths over the RNC doing anything major about it, since they see eye to eye with their DNC brothers on a lot of issues, including H1-B's and tax breaks and subsidies for labor racketeers doing business in Red China and assorted South American countries and now the Caribbean.

Trump isn't going to live forever, and so far we know he will have no lasting effect on GOP policies. They will simply remain 'globalist', rewarding rent seeking and debt bubbles over policies that build real economies, as usual. Both 'parties' will continue representing the Davos Set over national interests.

 

[depotoo]

There are not enough people to fill job openings in tourist areas during season. Fact.

 

[Picaro]

There are not enough people to fill job openings in tourist areas during season. Fact.

Translation: there are not enough people who can afford to work for free, which would be the case if they had to move from Atlanta to Colorado for a part time job for a couple of months a year. This country fought a major world war, on three fronts, and supplied all of its allies on a population less than half of what it has now, and after two decades of a moratorium on immigration. Now it no longer produces much at all, relies on a 'service economy', and has over 340 million people, while over 85% of its job creation are no skill low end part time temporary jobs, and the government still hands out green cards like free candy to every big employer who asks for them.

 

[Penelope]

Tramp uses H2b workers at his hotels, golf courses, winery.

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Republicans were all for criminal illegal immigration, until it dawned on them Saint Ronald's 'Amnesty' scam meant that soon they would be a big voting bloc in three of our largest states, then suddenly they're all about limiting immigration, but as we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce still supports the labor racketeering, as does a substantial number of the RNC, so don't anybody hold their breaths over the RNC doing anything major about it, since they see eye to eye with their DNC brothers on a lot of issues, including H1-B's and tax breaks and subsidies for labor racketeers doing business in Red China and assorted South American countries and now the Caribbean.

Trump isn't going to live forever, and so far we know he will have no lasting effect on GOP policies. They will simply remain 'globalist', rewarding rent seeking and debt bubbles over policies that build real economies, as usual. Both 'parties' will continue representing the Davos Set over national interests.

From your comment:

"we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally"

Paying lip service to illegal immigration to pacify the morons is the reason Trump was elected.....it has always been a scam...…..

Building a wall, Mexico will pay for it.. <<-- pacifies morons
Locking kids up in cages <<-- pacifies the morons
Calling Mexicans rapists and murderers <<-- pacifies the morons...

Not locking up a single person for hiring illegals or shutting down a single business <<-- the Republican way....

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Tramp uses H2b workers at his hotels, golf courses, winery.

Are they here illegally?

 

[depotoo]

There are not enough people to fill job openings in tourist areas during season. Fact.

Translation: there are not enough people who can afford to work for free, which would be the case if they had to move from Atlanta to Colorado for a part time job for a couple of months a year. This country fought a major world war, on three fronts, and supplied all of its allies on a population less than half of what it has now, and after two decades of a moratorium on immigration. Now it no longer produces much at all, relies on a 'service economy', and has over 340 million people, while over 85% of its job creation are no skill low end part time temporary jobs, and the government still hands out green cards like free candy to every big employer who asks for them.

So not true.
Palm Beach county has an unemployment rate of 2.7%. There are no people for seasonal jobs. People aren’t willing to travel for seasonal work.
And in 2016 Congress removed an exemption on h2b visa numbers-
In past years, returning workers such as those employed by Massie didn't count against the cap. But last year, Congress didn't reauthorize that exemption.
Visa shortage makes it hard for Wisconsin businesses to fill jobs
[URL='https://www.thehour.com/norwalk/article/Summer-employers-brace-for-shortage-of-foreign-8277612.php'][URL]https://www.islandpacket.com/news/business/article161849443.html
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[depotoo]

Republicans were all for criminal illegal immigration, until it dawned on them Saint Ronald's 'Amnesty' scam meant that soon they would be a big voting bloc in three of our largest states, then suddenly they're all about limiting immigration, but as we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce still supports the labor racketeering, as does a substantial number of the RNC, so don't anybody hold their breaths over the RNC doing anything major about it, since they see eye to eye with their DNC brothers on a lot of issues, including H1-B's and tax breaks and subsidies for labor racketeers doing business in Red China and assorted South American countries and now the Caribbean.

Trump isn't going to live forever, and so far we know he will have no lasting effect on GOP policies. They will simply remain 'globalist', rewarding rent seeking and debt bubbles over policies that build real economies, as usual. Both 'parties' will continue representing the Davos Set over national interests.

From your comment:

"we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally"

Paying lip service to illegal immigration to pacify the morons is the reason Trump was elected.....it has always been a scam...…..

Building a wall, Mexico will pay for it.. <<-- pacifies morons
Locking kids up in cages <<-- pacifies the morons
Calling Mexicans rapists and murderers <<-- pacifies the morons...

Not locking up a single person for hiring illegals or shutting down a single business <<-- the Republican way....

How many did previous administrations?
https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...inally-targeting-employers-of-illegal-workers
ICE arrests of illegal workers, employers up 700 percent in 2018
Feds arrest Streamwood company operators, accuse them of hiring illegal workers through Elgin firm
Operators of Suburban Chicago Manufacturing Company Charged with Illegally Hiring Undocumented Workers
Madison business owner sentenced to prison for harboring illegal aliens
[URL="https://www.wbir.com/article/news/crime/slaughterhouse-owner-who-used-illegal-immigrants-sentenced-to-18-months-in-federal-prison/51-ed9baf8e-1347-49c8-b883-8df4d1df20c7"]Slaughterhouse owner who used illegal immigrants sentenced to 18 months in federal prison[/URL]
[URL="https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/georgia-business-owner-illegal-alien-charged-exploiting-illegal-workers"]Georgia business owner, illegal alien charged with exploiting illegal workers[/URL]
Want more?

 

[Picaro]

There are not enough people to fill job openings in tourist areas during season. Fact.

Translation: there are not enough people who can afford to work for free, which would be the case if they had to move from Atlanta to Colorado for a part time job for a couple of months a year. This country fought a major world war, on three fronts, and supplied all of its allies on a population less than half of what it has now, and after two decades of a moratorium on immigration. Now it no longer produces much at all, relies on a 'service economy', and has over 340 million people, while over 85% of its job creation are no skill low end part time temporary jobs, and the government still hands out green cards like free candy to every big employer who asks for them.

So not true.
Palm Beach county has an unemployment rate of 2.7%. There are no people for seasonal jobs. People aren’t willing to travel for seasonal work.
And in 2016 Congress removed an exemption on h2b visa numbers-
In past years, returning workers such as those employed by Massie didn't count against the cap. But last year, Congress didn't reauthorize that exemption.
Visa shortage makes it hard for Wisconsin businesses to fill jobs
https://www.islandpacket.com/news/business/article161849443.html

lol you mean they aren't dumb enough to travel there to work for what Palm Beach employers want to pay, which is what they would pay criminal illegal aliens. They don't like the free market for labor, most right wingers hate the idea of paying anything for labor, much less paying what a free market in American labor would cost them. They want the Feds to subsidize them for free and bring in desperate people from shitholes they can abuse, cheat, and then discard, and many of them will stay here rather than return home when their visas expire, but Palm Beach won't have to pay for that, either.

Those who want foreign labor don't want to pay for their entire costs, they want the government to do that. Anybody can sponsor refugees and labor for their corporations; all they have to do is agree to be financially and legally responsible for them. Of course, nobody ever does want to agree to do that, left or right wingers, and certainly never employers.

 

[Picaro]

Republicans were all for criminal illegal immigration, until it dawned on them Saint Ronald's 'Amnesty' scam meant that soon they would be a big voting bloc in three of our largest states, then suddenly they're all about limiting immigration, but as we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce still supports the labor racketeering, as does a substantial number of the RNC, so don't anybody hold their breaths over the RNC doing anything major about it, since they see eye to eye with their DNC brothers on a lot of issues, including H1-B's and tax breaks and subsidies for labor racketeers doing business in Red China and assorted South American countries and now the Caribbean.

Trump isn't going to live forever, and so far we know he will have no lasting effect on GOP policies. They will simply remain 'globalist', rewarding rent seeking and debt bubbles over policies that build real economies, as usual. Both 'parties' will continue representing the Davos Set over national interests.

From your comment:

"we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally"

Paying lip service to illegal immigration to pacify the morons is the reason Trump was elected.....it has always been a scam...…..

Building a wall, Mexico will pay for it.. <<-- pacifies morons
Locking kids up in cages <<-- pacifies the morons
Calling Mexicans rapists and murderers <<-- pacifies the morons...

Not locking up a single person for hiring illegals or shutting down a single business <<-- the Republican way....

rubbish re Trump. When he's gone, though, it will be back to business as usual with Republicans. Trump should imposed much higher tariffs and never settled with that criminal sociopath state of Red China or the narco state of Mexico, though.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Republicans were all for criminal illegal immigration, until it dawned on them Saint Ronald's 'Amnesty' scam meant that soon they would be a big voting bloc in three of our largest states, then suddenly they're all about limiting immigration, but as we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce still supports the labor racketeering, as does a substantial number of the RNC, so don't anybody hold their breaths over the RNC doing anything major about it, since they see eye to eye with their DNC brothers on a lot of issues, including H1-B's and tax breaks and subsidies for labor racketeers doing business in Red China and assorted South American countries and now the Caribbean.

Trump isn't going to live forever, and so far we know he will have no lasting effect on GOP policies. They will simply remain 'globalist', rewarding rent seeking and debt bubbles over policies that build real economies, as usual. Both 'parties' will continue representing the Davos Set over national interests.

From your comment:

"we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally"

Paying lip service to illegal immigration to pacify the morons is the reason Trump was elected.....it has always been a scam...…..

Building a wall, Mexico will pay for it.. <<-- pacifies morons
Locking kids up in cages <<-- pacifies the morons
Calling Mexicans rapists and murderers <<-- pacifies the morons...

Not locking up a single person for hiring illegals or shutting down a single business <<-- the Republican way....

rubbish re Trump. When he's gone, though, it will be back to business as usual with Republicans. Trump should imposed much higher tariffs and never settled with that criminal sociopath state of Red China or the narco state of Mexico, though.

Oh, you thought Trump had an option to do all of those things you said? Adorable...

Trump was, is, and always will be full of shit...and republicans are as full of shit as they claim Democrats are....

Trump is just the next in line of so-called conservative party leaders to appease the morons with dog whistles and tough talk....and for the morons, that is enough

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

She slammed on Trump for play fighting about the H1-B program, and now the acting DHS Sec has admitted 66k H2-B workers while there are still many Americans looking for work.

DHS Chief Chad Wolf Approves 35K H-2B Foreign Workers to Take U.S. Jobs

The decision to add more foreign workers to the already inflated U.S. labor market, Wolf said, is “intended” to benefit American businesses and American workers, though the latter was not explained.

Overall, two batches of foreign workers will be available to American businesses, with 20,000 foreign workers available at the beginning of April and 15,000 foreign workers available on May 15.

This is the fourth consecutive year that President Trump’s DHS has approved more foreign workers to be imported by American businesses through the H-2B visa program. Wolf’s decision follows the same direction that former DHS Secretaries Kevin McAleenan, Kirstjen Nielsen, and John Kelly implemented.

Wolf’s announcement comes with new measures to “reduce fraud and abuse” in the H-2B visa program, which a handful of Republican and Democrat senators have warned against expanding.

The H-2B visa program has been widely used by businesses to drag down the wages of American workers in landscaping, conservation work, the meatpacking industry, the construction industry, and fishing jobs, a 2019 study from the Center for Immigration Studies finds.

When comparing the wages of H-2B foreign workers to the national wage average for each blue-collar industry, about 21 out of 25 of the industries offered lower wages to foreign workers than Americans.​

H2-B visa is not the same as a H1-B visa...

H2-B visa is a temporary seasonal ( non-agricultural ) visa for peak load time of the year meaning to cover jobs that are season that are non-farming related.

H-2B visa - Wikipedia

A H1-B visa is used to import College Degree workers to fill fields like Medical, Education and IT Tech and is totally different than a H2-B visa.



Why you have a influx of Filipino, Indian and Chinese College Educated workers in Engineering, Medical and Silicon Valley Tech is because of the H1-B visa...

H-1B visa - Wikipedia

 

[Picaro]

Republicans were all for criminal illegal immigration, until it dawned on them Saint Ronald's 'Amnesty' scam meant that soon they would be a big voting bloc in three of our largest states, then suddenly they're all about limiting immigration, but as we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce still supports the labor racketeering, as does a substantial number of the RNC, so don't anybody hold their breaths over the RNC doing anything major about it, since they see eye to eye with their DNC brothers on a lot of issues, including H1-B's and tax breaks and subsidies for labor racketeers doing business in Red China and assorted South American countries and now the Caribbean.

Trump isn't going to live forever, and so far we know he will have no lasting effect on GOP policies. They will simply remain 'globalist', rewarding rent seeking and debt bubbles over policies that build real economies, as usual. Both 'parties' will continue representing the Davos Set over national interests.

From your comment:

"we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally"

Paying lip service to illegal immigration to pacify the morons is the reason Trump was elected.....it has always been a scam...…..

Building a wall, Mexico will pay for it.. <<-- pacifies morons
Locking kids up in cages <<-- pacifies the morons
Calling Mexicans rapists and murderers <<-- pacifies the morons...

Not locking up a single person for hiring illegals or shutting down a single business <<-- the Republican way....

rubbish re Trump. When he's gone, though, it will be back to business as usual with Republicans. Trump should imposed much higher tariffs and never settled with that criminal sociopath state of Red China or the narco state of Mexico, though.

Oh, you thought Trump had an option to do all of those things you said? Adorable...

Trump was, is, and always will be full of shit...and republicans are as full of shit as they claim Democrats are....

Trump is just the next in line of so-called conservative party leaders to appease the morons with dog whistles and tough talk....and for the morons, that is enough

Thanks for the dope addled idiocy; we wouldn't want you deviating form the Hive on anything, would we?

 

[Picaro]

She slammed on Trump for play fighting about the H1-B program, and now the acting DHS Sec has admitted 66k H2-B workers while there are still many Americans looking for work.

DHS Chief Chad Wolf Approves 35K H-2B Foreign Workers to Take U.S. Jobs

The decision to add more foreign workers to the already inflated U.S. labor market, Wolf said, is “intended” to benefit American businesses and American workers, though the latter was not explained.

Overall, two batches of foreign workers will be available to American businesses, with 20,000 foreign workers available at the beginning of April and 15,000 foreign workers available on May 15.

This is the fourth consecutive year that President Trump’s DHS has approved more foreign workers to be imported by American businesses through the H-2B visa program. Wolf’s decision follows the same direction that former DHS Secretaries Kevin McAleenan, Kirstjen Nielsen, and John Kelly implemented.

Wolf’s announcement comes with new measures to “reduce fraud and abuse” in the H-2B visa program, which a handful of Republican and Democrat senators have warned against expanding.

The H-2B visa program has been widely used by businesses to drag down the wages of American workers in landscaping, conservation work, the meatpacking industry, the construction industry, and fishing jobs, a 2019 study from the Center for Immigration Studies finds.

When comparing the wages of H-2B foreign workers to the national wage average for each blue-collar industry, about 21 out of 25 of the industries offered lower wages to foreign workers than Americans.​

H2-B visa is not the same as a H1-B visa...

H2-B visa is a temporary seasonal ( non-agricultural ) visa for peak load time of the year meaning to cover jobs that are season that are non-farming related.

H-2B visa - Wikipedia

A H1-B visa is used to import College Degree workers to fill fields like Medical, Education and IT Tech and is totally different than a H2-B visa.



Why you have a influx of Filipino, Indian and Chinese College Educated workers in Engineering, Medical and Silicon Valley Tech is because of the H1-B visa...

H-1B visa - Wikipedia

We had a surplus of American farm workers, until the swarm of criminal illegals came in. And, nowadays less than 2% of our crops are picked by hand anyway.

Silence in the Fields

Launched after World War II and fine-tuned during the 1980s, the H-2A program was designed to allow farmers to temporarily employ foreign workers during periods of labor shortage. In reality, farmers are increasingly using H-2A to permanently replace American workers with a captive labor force. With little official oversight, growers simply turn away domestic workers, or offer wages so low that flipping burgers becomes more appealing. In effect, H-2A has turned NAFTA inside out: Since U.S. farms can’t go to the Third World, the federal government allows agribusiness to bring the Third World to U.S. farms. Some 42,000 workers on H-2A visas — mainly from Mexico, Jamaica, and Peru — now harvest tobacco in Virginia, clip onions in Georgia, pick apples in New England, cut sugarcane in Arkansas and Louisiana, herd sheep in Idaho and Nevada, and operate combines throughout the Midwest. A related program called H-1B allows employers to import 195,000 skilled workers a year, bringing computer programmers to Silicon Valley and other high-tech hot spots.

Although the federal government oversees wages and working conditions, farmers often mistreat H-2A workers without fear of being penalized. A six-month investigation of the program by Mother Jones reveals widespread complaints that growers have threatened workers at gunpoint, refused them water in the fields, housed them in crumbling, rat-infested buildings where sewage bubbles up through the drains, and denied them medical care after exposing them to pesticides. Farmers control their visitors, their mail, even their weekly shopping trips. A study by the U.S. General Accounting Office notes that H-2A workers, knowing they can be deported at any time, “are unlikely to complain about worker protection violations, fearing they will lose their jobs or will not be hired in the future.” Workers say they have adopted several unwritten rules: Don’t gripe about wages and working conditions. Don’t seek the benefits you’re entitled to. Don’t make noise, even when your health is in jeopardy. “What you see, you must remain silent,” says a Jamaican H-2A worker assigned to a Massachusetts vegetable farm. “What you hear, remain silent.”


Whatever fake 'shortages' we have now are artificially produced and a self-fulfilled deliberately created one.


In fact, study after study of the H-2A program concludes that there’s actually a surplus of agricultural labor, not a shortage. “Unemployment and underemployment are endemic among farmworkers,” says one Labor Department report. “Even at the seasonal peak in September, one-third of farmworkers are still not working in U.S. agriculture.” In studies and congressional testimony about the program, the General Accounting Office also dismisses the idea of a labor shortage. “Agricultural employers in most of the United States have had adequate supplies of labor for many years and continue to do so,” the GAO reports.

The agency acknowledges that some regions do experience local shortages, but notes that those might be alleviated “with fairly modest wage increases.” Instead, H-2A enables farmers — from small operators to corporate giants employing more than 600 workers — to effectively circumvent the free market, paying guestworkers as little as $6.39 an hour rather than raising hourly wages to attract U.S. workers. “A lot of farmers say, ‘I advertised for 300 jobs and no one applied,'” says Thom Myers, a farmworker advocate in Raleigh, North Carolina. “But what about the guy who runs a hardware store who has the same argument? What about the guy who runs a restaurant? If this was any other industry, the government would say, ‘Hey, raise your pay until the supply and demand curves cross.'”

Rather than pay market wages, H-2A growers have instead developed a litany of schemes to ward off domestic workers. In Idaho, the Snake River Farmer’s Association urged its members to write backbreaking job descriptions to discourage Americans from applying. “Irrigators or pipe movers is a great job description because no one wants to move pipe,” explains an association handout. Farmers in other states have turned away U.S. residents for being a few minutes late for interviews, or for not knowing the fine points of federal labor law. In North Carolina, the Growers Association says it hires domestic workers after a simple five-minute phone interview — but state officials describe the process as intentionally inefficient and even hostile. “They go out of their way to discourage local workers from seeking employment,” Lee Albritton, a former job-service employee, wrote in a memo to his supervisors. In 1999, the state found jobs on non-H-2A farms for 12,700 domestic workers. By contrast, on H-2A farms, the state found jobs for only seven workers.

To further discourage U.S. workers, growers often refuse to provide migrant crews the same kind of transportation they offer H-2A workers. “Farmers know that unless there’s travel money involved, no large number of domestic workers will get to the job site,” says Greg Schell, an attorney at Florida’s Migrant Farmworker Justice Project. “If they send a bus to the Rio Grande Valley or Belle Glade, Florida, they can get thousands of experienced farmworkers. But without a bus, the job may as well be on Mars.”

 

[theHawk]

She slammed on Trump for play fighting about the H1-B program, and now the acting DHS Sec has admitted 66k H2-B workers while there are still many Americans looking for work.

DHS Chief Chad Wolf Approves 35K H-2B Foreign Workers to Take U.S. Jobs

The decision to add more foreign workers to the already inflated U.S. labor market, Wolf said, is “intended” to benefit American businesses and American workers, though the latter was not explained.

Overall, two batches of foreign workers will be available to American businesses, with 20,000 foreign workers available at the beginning of April and 15,000 foreign workers available on May 15.

This is the fourth consecutive year that President Trump’s DHS has approved more foreign workers to be imported by American businesses through the H-2B visa program. Wolf’s decision follows the same direction that former DHS Secretaries Kevin McAleenan, Kirstjen Nielsen, and John Kelly implemented.

Wolf’s announcement comes with new measures to “reduce fraud and abuse” in the H-2B visa program, which a handful of Republican and Democrat senators have warned against expanding.

The H-2B visa program has been widely used by businesses to drag down the wages of American workers in landscaping, conservation work, the meatpacking industry, the construction industry, and fishing jobs, a 2019 study from the Center for Immigration Studies finds.

When comparing the wages of H-2B foreign workers to the national wage average for each blue-collar industry, about 21 out of 25 of the industries offered lower wages to foreign workers than Americans.​

H2-B visa is not the same as a H1-B visa...

H2-B visa is a temporary seasonal ( non-agricultural ) visa for peak load time of the year meaning to cover jobs that are season that are non-farming related.

H-2B visa - Wikipedia

A H1-B visa is used to import College Degree workers to fill fields like Medical, Education and IT Tech and is totally different than a H2-B visa.



Why you have a influx of Filipino, Indian and Chinese College Educated workers in Engineering, Medical and Silicon Valley Tech is because of the H1-B visa...

H-1B visa - Wikipedia

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[Biff_Poindexter]

Republicans were all for criminal illegal immigration, until it dawned on them Saint Ronald's 'Amnesty' scam meant that soon they would be a big voting bloc in three of our largest states, then suddenly they're all about limiting immigration, but as we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce still supports the labor racketeering, as does a substantial number of the RNC, so don't anybody hold their breaths over the RNC doing anything major about it, since they see eye to eye with their DNC brothers on a lot of issues, including H1-B's and tax breaks and subsidies for labor racketeers doing business in Red China and assorted South American countries and now the Caribbean.

Trump isn't going to live forever, and so far we know he will have no lasting effect on GOP policies. They will simply remain 'globalist', rewarding rent seeking and debt bubbles over policies that build real economies, as usual. Both 'parties' will continue representing the Davos Set over national interests.

From your comment:

"we can see they never actually intend to be effective at it, just make noises to pacify the morons occasionally"

Paying lip service to illegal immigration to pacify the morons is the reason Trump was elected.....it has always been a scam...…..

Building a wall, Mexico will pay for it.. <<-- pacifies morons
Locking kids up in cages <<-- pacifies the morons
Calling Mexicans rapists and murderers <<-- pacifies the morons...

Not locking up a single person for hiring illegals or shutting down a single business <<-- the Republican way....

rubbish re Trump. When he's gone, though, it will be back to business as usual with Republicans. Trump should imposed much higher tariffs and never settled with that criminal sociopath state of Red China or the narco state of Mexico, though.

Oh, you thought Trump had an option to do all of those things you said? Adorable...

Trump was, is, and always will be full of shit...and republicans are as full of shit as they claim Democrats are....

Trump is just the next in line of so-called conservative party leaders to appease the morons with dog whistles and tough talk....and for the morons, that is enough

Thanks for the dope addled idiocy; we wouldn't want you deviating form the Hive on anything, would we?

What I said is true -- definitely more true than the esoteric babble you are spouting....

All you have said is "what it used to be like 30 and 40 years ago"

Yea...then Reagan came....I deal with what is, you opine about what "used to be"

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

She slammed on Trump for play fighting about the H1-B program, and now the acting DHS Sec has admitted 66k H2-B workers while there are still many Americans looking for work.

DHS Chief Chad Wolf Approves 35K H-2B Foreign Workers to Take U.S. Jobs

The decision to add more foreign workers to the already inflated U.S. labor market, Wolf said, is “intended” to benefit American businesses and American workers, though the latter was not explained.

Overall, two batches of foreign workers will be available to American businesses, with 20,000 foreign workers available at the beginning of April and 15,000 foreign workers available on May 15.

This is the fourth consecutive year that President Trump’s DHS has approved more foreign workers to be imported by American businesses through the H-2B visa program. Wolf’s decision follows the same direction that former DHS Secretaries Kevin McAleenan, Kirstjen Nielsen, and John Kelly implemented.

Wolf’s announcement comes with new measures to “reduce fraud and abuse” in the H-2B visa program, which a handful of Republican and Democrat senators have warned against expanding.

The H-2B visa program has been widely used by businesses to drag down the wages of American workers in landscaping, conservation work, the meatpacking industry, the construction industry, and fishing jobs, a 2019 study from the Center for Immigration Studies finds.

When comparing the wages of H-2B foreign workers to the national wage average for each blue-collar industry, about 21 out of 25 of the industries offered lower wages to foreign workers than Americans.​

H2-B visa is not the same as a H1-B visa...

H2-B visa is a temporary seasonal ( non-agricultural ) visa for peak load time of the year meaning to cover jobs that are season that are non-farming related.

H-2B visa - Wikipedia

A H1-B visa is used to import College Degree workers to fill fields like Medical, Education and IT Tech and is totally different than a H2-B visa.



Why you have a influx of Filipino, Indian and Chinese College Educated workers in Engineering, Medical and Silicon Valley Tech is because of the H1-B visa...

H-1B visa - Wikipedia

We had a surplus of American farm workers, until the swarm of criminal illegals came in. And, nowadays less than 2% of our crops are picked by hand anyway.

Silence in the Fields

Launched after World War II and fine-tuned during the 1980s, the H-2A program was designed to allow farmers to temporarily employ foreign workers during periods of labor shortage. In reality, farmers are increasingly using H-2A to permanently replace American workers with a captive labor force. With little official oversight, growers simply turn away domestic workers, or offer wages so low that flipping burgers becomes more appealing. In effect, H-2A has turned NAFTA inside out: Since U.S. farms can’t go to the Third World, the federal government allows agribusiness to bring the Third World to U.S. farms. Some 42,000 workers on H-2A visas — mainly from Mexico, Jamaica, and Peru — now harvest tobacco in Virginia, clip onions in Georgia, pick apples in New England, cut sugarcane in Arkansas and Louisiana, herd sheep in Idaho and Nevada, and operate combines throughout the Midwest. A related program called H-1B allows employers to import 195,000 skilled workers a year, bringing computer programmers to Silicon Valley and other high-tech hot spots.

Although the federal government oversees wages and working conditions, farmers often mistreat H-2A workers without fear of being penalized. A six-month investigation of the program by Mother Jones reveals widespread complaints that growers have threatened workers at gunpoint, refused them water in the fields, housed them in crumbling, rat-infested buildings where sewage bubbles up through the drains, and denied them medical care after exposing them to pesticides. Farmers control their visitors, their mail, even their weekly shopping trips. A study by the U.S. General Accounting Office notes that H-2A workers, knowing they can be deported at any time, “are unlikely to complain about worker protection violations, fearing they will lose their jobs or will not be hired in the future.” Workers say they have adopted several unwritten rules: Don’t gripe about wages and working conditions. Don’t seek the benefits you’re entitled to. Don’t make noise, even when your health is in jeopardy. “What you see, you must remain silent,” says a Jamaican H-2A worker assigned to a Massachusetts vegetable farm. “What you hear, remain silent.”


Whatever fake 'shortages' we have now are artificially produced and a self-fulfilled deliberately created one.


In fact, study after study of the H-2A program concludes that there’s actually a surplus of agricultural labor, not a shortage. “Unemployment and underemployment are endemic among farmworkers,” says one Labor Department report. “Even at the seasonal peak in September, one-third of farmworkers are still not working in U.S. agriculture.” In studies and congressional testimony about the program, the General Accounting Office also dismisses the idea of a labor shortage. “Agricultural employers in most of the United States have had adequate supplies of labor for many years and continue to do so,” the GAO reports.

The agency acknowledges that some regions do experience local shortages, but notes that those might be alleviated “with fairly modest wage increases.” Instead, H-2A enables farmers — from small operators to corporate giants employing more than 600 workers — to effectively circumvent the free market, paying guestworkers as little as $6.39 an hour rather than raising hourly wages to attract U.S. workers. “A lot of farmers say, ‘I advertised for 300 jobs and no one applied,'” says Thom Myers, a farmworker advocate in Raleigh, North Carolina. “But what about the guy who runs a hardware store who has the same argument? What about the guy who runs a restaurant? If this was any other industry, the government would say, ‘Hey, raise your pay until the supply and demand curves cross.'”

Rather than pay market wages, H-2A growers have instead developed a litany of schemes to ward off domestic workers. In Idaho, the Snake River Farmer’s Association urged its members to write backbreaking job descriptions to discourage Americans from applying. “Irrigators or pipe movers is a great job description because no one wants to move pipe,” explains an association handout. Farmers in other states have turned away U.S. residents for being a few minutes late for interviews, or for not knowing the fine points of federal labor law. In North Carolina, the Growers Association says it hires domestic workers after a simple five-minute phone interview — but state officials describe the process as intentionally inefficient and even hostile. “They go out of their way to discourage local workers from seeking employment,” Lee Albritton, a former job-service employee, wrote in a memo to his supervisors. In 1999, the state found jobs on non-H-2A farms for 12,700 domestic workers. By contrast, on H-2A farms, the state found jobs for only seven workers.

To further discourage U.S. workers, growers often refuse to provide migrant crews the same kind of transportation they offer H-2A workers. “Farmers know that unless there’s travel money involved, no large number of domestic workers will get to the job site,” says Greg Schell, an attorney at Florida’s Migrant Farmworker Justice Project. “If they send a bus to the Rio Grande Valley or Belle Glade, Florida, they can get thousands of experienced farmworkers. But without a bus, the job may as well be on Mars.”

H2-A Visa is for farming... H2-B is not...

Two different visa programs just like the H1-B visa...

You need to look at the number and letter after the H to know which one you are writing about...