and ruby ridge
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Do you mean a Black "child" like "Big Mike" Brown? You find some similarity between the two events? If so, please elaborate.It appears jack boots come in both red, and blue, varieties.
Or we just can't work up a lot of sympathy for Crazy White People who belong to whacky cults.
I wonder why you Libertarian nuts don't show this much outrage when a black child is shot by a cop.
Another example of what we're becoming.and ruby ridge
But you're not too upset about a bunch of White kids, including a few infants, being incinerated. Or do you believe the sins of the fathers justified the law-enforcement god imposing that punishment?So you missed all those times I criticized police departments for shooting unarmed black kids?
What threat did David Koresh or any of the Branch Davidians pose to you, or me, or anyone else? Who did any of those people harm? The answer is no one.[...]
Frankly, I want a government to protect us from people like David Koresh. I'm not sure why you don't.
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Then you should like the Branch Davidians -- who kept to themselves and never came anywhere near your streets. Yet you despise them and celebrate what some rogue government groups did to them. Punished and killed them all and burned their babies alive.I like not having to share my streets with pedophile cultists with guns...
that's what I like.
If gun ownership was actually banned what percentage of the population do you believe would voluntarily comply? Do you realize that effective enforcement of such a ban would require methods, and would create a social atmosphere, exceeding anything envisioned in Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four and Huxley's Brave New World? It would require that ordinary flat-foot cops would be empowered to arbitrarily search you or your car, or to force their way into your home at any time to search for guns.[...]
Well, first, gun ownership should be banned, but Koresh and his mob were doing more than that. they were selling illegally modified weapons, which is what triggered the ATF investigation.
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Don't forget that Koresh repeatedly raped little girls and forced little boys to march around like soldiers, and then lit the fires that killed so many. The public support for child rapists and sex-groomers in this country has been astounding.
Even if the warrant being served on Koresh was flawed in some way, this would be an argument to be made in court, not an excuse for him and his minions to start shooting at the people serving it.
Did anyone watch the WACO mini series on the Paramount (Spike) network?
To me it it made the Branch Davidians and David Koresh look like the victims of an out of control
federal law enforcement agents, specifically the ATF and the FBI.
Whether the Davidians started the fires as a deliberately suicidal act, or if the reckless actions of the FBI/HRT accidentally caused ignition, remains a matter of divided opinions. But three things are undeniably certain. The FBI/HRT knew Koresh had threatened mass suicide if an attempt was made to breach the compound's walls. They had reliable cause (advice of professional behaviorists) to believe Koresh was mentally unstable. And they knew there were 21 helpless children in that building.Don't forget that Koresh repeatedly raped little girls and forced little boys to march around like soldiers, and then lit the fires that killed so many. The public support for child rapists and sex-groomers in this country has been astounding.
Whether the Davidians started the fires as a deliberately suicidal act, or if the reckless actions of the FBI/HRT accidentally caused ignition, remains a matter of divided opinions. But three things are undeniably certain. The FBI/HRT knew Koresh had threatened mass suicide if an attempt was made to breach the compound's walls. They had reliable cause (advice of professional behaviorists) to believe Koresh was mentally unstable. And they knew there were 21 helpless children in that building.Don't forget that Koresh repeatedly raped little girls and forced little boys to march around like soldiers, and then lit the fires that killed so many. The public support for child rapists and sex-groomers in this country has been astounding.
They knew those things.
Of course. The government was just there trying to talk them out of it. With incendiary grenades.
You obviously didn't read Dick Reavis' book, The Ashes of Waco, in which he exhaustively quotes Koresh's lawyer, Dick DeGuerin, who was the only private citizen afforded access to Koresh which was limited to one brief visit. The FBI denied any further access to DeGuerin, citing concern for DeGuerin's safety, which DeGuerin dismissed as subterfuge.
The pivotal question here is why was Koresh denied this access.
Are you not personally offended by it?
Your diatribes are directed at David Koresh. No other Branch Davidian is named in them, nor have you presented any specific criminal charges against any other. Add to that the fact that David Koresh could easily have been arrested during any of his regular visits to the Post Office and/or grocery store. There was absolutely no reason for the BATF to do what they did.
Anyone with an average intellect, a sense of common decency and a belief in the fundamental principles of liberty knows that.
There is a reason why the issue of the Waco massacre continues to arise decade after decade. It was a terrible misuse of government's power over its citizens.
Do you mean a Black "child" like "Big Mike" Brown? You find some similarity between the two events? If so, please elaborate.
Whether the Davidians started the fires as a deliberately suicidal act, or if the reckless actions of the FBI/HRT accidentally caused ignition, remains a matter of divided opinions. But three things are undeniably certain. The FBI/HRT knew Koresh had threatened mass suicide if an attempt was made to breach the compound's walls. They had reliable cause (advice of professional behaviorists) to believe Koresh was mentally unstable. And they knew there were 21 helpless children in that building.
They knew those things.
that would be b/c our government murdered those people.Did anyone watch the WACO mini series on the Paramount (Spike) network?
To me it it made the Branch Davidians and David Koresh look like the victims of an out of control
federal law enforcement agents, specifically the ATF and the FBI.
Personally? I spit and piss on the Feds by exposing them every chance I get and they don't like it that I rescinded my U.S citizenship and no longer under their acts, statutes, codes and ordinances. I have been a thorn in their side for years. They can eat shit and die for all I care. Live free or die.......I will never submit to the Feds.
What threat did David Koresh or any of the Branch Davidians pose to you, or me, or anyone else? Who did any of those people harm? The answer is no one.
I find it interesting that Sheriff Jack Harwell, the chief of that county's law enforcement resources, had a more favorable impression and opinion of Koresh and the Branch Davidians than you (and some others) do -- the main difference being Harwell knew the Davidians personally while you did not.
If gun ownership was actually banned what percentage of the population do you believe would voluntarily comply? Do you realize that effective enforcement of such a ban would require methods, and would create a social atmosphere, exceeding anything envisioned in Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four and Huxley's Brave New World? It would require that ordinary flat-foot cops would be empowered to arbitrarily search you or your car, or to force their way into your home at any time to search for guns.
Did anyone watch the WACO mini series on the Paramount (Spike) network?
To me it it made the Branch Davidians and David Koresh look like the victims of an out of control
federal law enforcement agents, specifically the ATF and the FBI.
The ATF could have taken Koresh into custody at any time had they wanted. The federal "gubermint" was embarrassed by the Ruby Ridge incident and they wanted revenge and they wanted to demonize and marginalize anyone that was pro-2nd amendment and against a federal, corporate entity that is ran out of the District of Columbia that has it's own corporate charter constitution via the Act of 1871.
Personally? I spit and piss on the Feds by exposing them every chance I get and they don't like it that I rescinded my U.S citizenship and no longer under their acts, statutes, codes and ordinances. I have been a thorn in their side for years. They can eat shit and die for all I care. Live free or die.......I will never submit to the Feds.
It's good to find even a single message from one whose first thought is the children -- and who understands where the true fault lies.Dark day when innocent children die like that. Our government should be ashamed
Personally? I spit and piss on the Feds by exposing them every chance I get and they don't like it that I rescinded my U.S citizenship and no longer under their acts, statutes, codes and ordinances. I have been a thorn in their side for years. They can eat shit and die for all I care. Live free or die.......I will never submit to the Feds.
Poor Cocksucker Dale thinks he's immune to the law because he says so...
What threat did David Koresh or any of the Branch Davidians pose to you, or me, or anyone else? Who did any of those people harm? The answer is no one.
Well, the fact he was selling dangerous weapons to dangerous people. The fact he was molesting children. You know, those kinds of things.
I find it interesting that Sheriff Jack Harwell, the chief of that county's law enforcement resources, had a more favorable impression and opinion of Koresh and the Branch Davidians than you (and some others) do -- the main difference being Harwell knew the Davidians personally while you did not.
Yeah, well, frankly, being the small town hick sheriff doesn't impress me. ALl this shit was going on right under his nose, and he did nothing about it.
If gun ownership was actually banned what percentage of the population do you believe would voluntarily comply? Do you realize that effective enforcement of such a ban would require methods, and would create a social atmosphere, exceeding anything envisioned in Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four and Huxley's Brave New World? It would require that ordinary flat-foot cops would be empowered to arbitrarily search you or your car, or to force their way into your home at any time to search for guns.
Uh, guy, we are already in that world with drugs... And it's nowhere near books you probably haven't read. (Huxley's world isn't anything like Orwell's).
The reality is, gun ownership has been on the decline for a long time now.
The number of guns have increased because the crazies keep stockpiling them.
Did anyone watch the WACO mini series on the Paramount (Spike) network?
To me it it made the Branch Davidians and David Koresh look like the victims of an out of control
federal law enforcement agents, specifically the ATF and the FBI.
The ATF could have taken Koresh into custody at any time had they wanted. The federal "gubermint" was embarrassed by the Ruby Ridge incident and they wanted revenge and they wanted to demonize and marginalize anyone that was pro-2nd amendment and against a federal, corporate entity that is ran out of the District of Columbia that has it's own corporate charter constitution via the Act of 1871.
Personally? I spit and piss on the Feds by exposing them every chance I get and they don't like it that I rescinded my U.S citizenship and no longer under their acts, statutes, codes and ordinances. I have been a thorn in their side for years. They can eat shit and die for all I care. Live free or die.......I will never submit to the Feds.
Oh, brother. There's that fiction about the Act of 1871 again. I haven't read most of your fiction for awhile, but at least you are consistent with it. It's sad to see such delusional garbage being posted by you. And if you are living in this country you do, indeed, have to comply with federal, state and local laws. If you rescinded your citizenship and are still living here, you are foolish to think you don't have to comply. Of course, if you don't violate any laws, then you probably are safe for now.
Oh, brother. There's that fiction about the Act of 1871 again. I haven't read most of your fiction for awhile, but at least you are consistent with it. It's sad to see such delusional garbage being posted by you. And if you are living in this country you do, indeed, have to comply with federal, state and local laws. If you rescinded your citizenship and are still living here, you are foolish to think you don't have to comply. Of course, if you don't violate any laws, then you probably are safe for now.
You lamely scoff at my postings while laughing nervously, look around hoping others will support you.....it's not happening.