VP debate thread.

[XponentialChaos]

No...these numbers are irrelevant because they don't take into account populations

You're complaining that per capita numbers don't take population into account.

LoL, I tried to walk you through it. Sorry, you're going to need to ask someone else to explain it to you.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Wow, you really got me a good one. You're real intelligent so knew right away what the PROG I mean Moderator meant. It wasn't subjective at all. What's more remarkable is you recognize the American public, especially PROGS are well-informed and knew exactly what he meant. Here you go dumb shit, it's in order of Mortality Rate

USA and Canada are highlighted for your convenience.

Country,	Cases	Deaths	Cases per Mil	Deaths per Mil	Tests	Population	Mortality Rate
Yemen	2,050	593	68	20		30,000,230	28.93%​
MS Zaandam	9	2					22.22%​
Italy	338,398	36,083	5,599	597	12,197,500	60,437,324	10.66%​
Mexico	799,188	82,726	6,181	640	2,037,413	129,299,186	10.35%​
Western Sahara	10	1	17	2		601,218	10.00%​
Ecuador	145,045	12,141	8,188	685	457,272	17,714,966	8.37%​
Montserrat	13	1	2,604	200	483	4,993	7.69%​
UK	561,815	42,592	8,264	627	26,679,020	67,983,287	7.58%​
Belgium	137,868	10,108	11,882	871	3,490,833	11,603,401	7.33%​
Chad	1,262	89	76	5		16,549,426	7.05%​
Isle of Man	345	24	4,051	282	14,023	85,156	6.96%​
Channel Islands	699	48	4,010	275	123,884	174,297	6.87%​
Fiji	32	2	36	2	11,034	898,211	6.25%​
Sudan	13,670	836	310	19		44,120,233	6.12%​
Sweden	97,532	5,892	9,641	582	1,661,484	10,116,417	6.04%​
Liberia	1,360	82	267	16	30,187	5,089,135	6.03%​
Bolivia	137,706	8,192	11,754	699	310,905	11,715,872	5.95%​
Egypt	104,156	6,017	1,013	59	135,000	102,849,261	5.78%​
Niger	1,201	69	49	3	27,129	24,433,183	5.75%​
Iran	488,236	27,888	5,793	331	4,232,064	84,282,671	5.71%​
San Marino	741	42	21,826	1,237	7,895	33,951	5.67%​
Canada	175,559	9,557	4,640	253	7,974,857	37,831,921	5.44%​
China	85,500	4,634	59	3	160,000,000	1,439,323,776	5.42%​
Bermuda	182	9	2,925	145	68,956	62,214	4.95%​
France	671,638	32,521	10,283	498	11,900,095	65,313,096	4.84%​
Syria	4,566	215	259	12		17,612,991	4.71%​
Ireland	40,086	1,817	8,094	367	1,287,332	4,952,690	4.53%​
Netherlands	155,810	6,531	9,088	381	2,656,731	17,145,263	4.19%​
Tanzania	509	21	8	0.3		60,180,423	4.13%​
Mali	3,235	131	159	6	58,667	20,403,712	4.05%​
Peru	838,614	33,098	25,339	1,000	4,003,363	33,095,400	3.95%​
North Macedonia	19,777	775	9,493	372	201,512	2,083,350	3.92%​
Bulgaria	23,259	880	3,354	127	561,970	6,933,902	3.78%​
Afghanistan	39,616	1,470	1,012	38	113,392	39,160,724	3.71%​
Spain	884,381	32,688	18,913	699	13,689,776	46,759,755	3.70%​
Indonesia	320,564	11,580	1,169	42	3,639,108	274,305,923	3.61%​
Romania	145,700	5,247	7,588	273	2,598,262	19,202,054	3.60%​
Switzerland	58,881	2,087	6,790	241	1,455,665	8,671,831	3.54%​
Angola	5,958	208	180	6	85,213	33,133,108	3.49%​
Guatemala	96,480	3,347	5,359	186	353,138	18,004,025	3.47%​
Barbados	203	7	706	24	25,968	287,472	3.45%​
Algeria	52,658	1,783	1,195	40		44,062,556	3.39%​
Australia	27,206	897	1,064	35	7,895,078	25,579,775	3.30%​
Gambia	3,617	117	1,486	48	17,842	2,434,486	3.23%​
Vietnam	1,100	35	11	0.4	1,009,145	97,576,071	3.18%​
Sint Maarten	698	22	16,230	512	4,650	43,007	3.15%​
Sierra Leone	2,293	72	286	9		8,020,144	3.14%​
Malawi	5,809	180	302	9	55,488	19,260,208	3.10%​
Bosnia and Herzegovina	29,528	913	9,016	279	255,545	3,275,156	3.09%​
Colombia	886,179	27,331	17,366	536	4,047,592	51,029,561	3.08%​
Germany	315,514	9,667	3,763	115	18,129,900	83,857,254	3.06%​
Finland	11,345	346	2,047	62	1,122,200	5,543,081	3.05%​
Honduras	81,016	2,466	8,145	248	190,387	9,946,840	3.04%​
Brazil	5,029,539	149,034	23,616	700	17,900,000	212,970,378	2.96%​
Guyana	3,329	98	4,227	124	15,450	787,588	2.94%​
El Salvador	29,842	877	4,595	135	415,439	6,495,135	2.94%​
Nicaragua	5,264	153	792	23		6,645,826	2.91%​
Zimbabwe	7,951	229	533	15	160,921	14,921,061	2.88%​
USA	7,833,763	217,738	23,629	657	115,343,815	331,531,610	2.78%​

Apparently I wasn't clear enough the first time.

The moderator wasn't referring to mortality rates. She was referring to deaths per million.

Canada: 253
USA: 657

What part of that is unclear?

Well then you got me. Right after you provide the video of the conversation which will surely prove it's not what the moderator meant, which only someone as astute as you understands, but what the moderator said to make it perfectly clear they didn't mean THE FUCKING DEATH RATE. Go!

 

[Indeependent]

No...these numbers are irrelevant because they don't take into account populations

You're complaining that per capita numbers don't take population into account.

LoL, I tried to walk you through it. Sorry, you're going to need to ask someone else to explain it to you.

Sorry, Homey don't play that game.
In any case, the mortality rate has plummeted in the last 2 months because anyone who was going to die has already died.
Now people get a fever for anywhere between 3 days and a few weeks and then go back to work.

USA Bad!

 

[XponentialChaos]

Well then you got me. Right after you provide the video of the conversation which will surely prove it's not what the moderator meant, which only you understand, but what the moderator said to make it perfectly clear they didn't mean THE FUCKING DEATH RATE. Go!

You realize that the transcript is readily available online, right?

Read the full transcript of vice presidential debate between Mike Pence and Kamala Harris

This is a transcript of the 90-minute debate between Vice President Mike Pence and vice presidential nominee Sen. Kamala Harris.

www.usatoday.com

Moderator: "The US death toll as a percentage of our population is higher than that of almost every other wealthy nation on Earth. For instance, our death rate is two and a half times that of Canada, next door."

Honestly dude, this isn't that complicated.

 

[Indeependent]

Well then you got me. Right after you provide the video of the conversation which will surely prove it's not what the moderator meant, which only you understand, but what the moderator said to make it perfectly clear they didn't mean THE FUCKING DEATH RATE. Go!

You realize that the transcript is readily available online, right?

Read the full transcript of vice presidential debate between Mike Pence and Kamala Harris

This is a transcript of the 90-minute debate between Vice President Mike Pence and vice presidential nominee Sen. Kamala Harris.

www.usatoday.com

Moderator: "The US death toll as a percentage of our population is higher than that of almost every other wealthy nation on Earth. For instance, our death rate is two and a half times that of Canada, next door."

Honestly dude, this isn't that complicated.

It's misleading and disgusting.
More people are dying now outside the US than in the US.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It's misleading and disgusting.
More people are dying now outside the US than in the US.

Sorry, but I'm not capable of explaining things in a way you would understand.

Good luck.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Hey kids, let's try a math problem.

Canada's death rate as a percentage of our population is 253 per million.
USA's death rate as a percentage of our population is 657 per million.

What number can we multiply with 253 in order to get 657?

Did you get approximately 2.6? Good job. Is 2.6 close to 2.5? Yes it is. Well done. Good job, kids. Maybe those were the numbers they were comparing.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Thanks for the link, this is what was said:
Thank you- Thank you, Senator Harris. Thank you, Senator Harris (the mod suck Harris' dick too?) Vice President Pence, more than 210,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 since February. The US death toll as a percentage of our population is higher than that of almost every other wealthy nation on Earth. For instance, our death rate is two and a half times that of Canada, next door. You head the administration's Coronavirus Task Force. Why is the U.S. death toll, as a percentage of our population, higher than that of almost every other wealthy country? And you have two minutes to respond, without interruption.

Agree the mod said percentage of population. That said, in general terms death rate means cases/deaths. Let's look a little deeper.

A. The Mod said Almost every wealthy nation on Earth. That's called subjective. I suppose China has it over on everyone. Great for PROGS, they love China.

B. How come in context the mod failed to mention that UK, Brazil, Spain, Italy, France have comparable death rates as percentage of population? Are these not "wealthy nations" now? I guess wealthy nations is subjective too. How many wealthy nations are there anyway?

C. Why did the mods feel it was important to not mention SOCIALIST healthcare systems throughout Canada and Europe sport 2-3 times the DEATH RATES the USA does? Strikes me as relevant on two accounts, one COVID, the other Universal Healthcare systems. Could have killed two birds with one stone, but you know, PROGS hostess debates.

D. Why ask stupid agenda driven questions in the first place? I suppose Pence could have said "move to fucking China then", and then go onto to explain to PROGS that the USA is a mother fucking free country that's over-populated, and how the mother fucking States are run by governors who believe in free immigration, and how we attract the most foreigners. Then he could go onto explain how PROGS were COVID-snowflakes until it came time to protest based on false narratives built/condoned by PROG leaders. I'd LOVE it, because me I like honesty.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Agree the mod said percentage of population.

I'm glad you finally got it figured out now.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

 

[Flash]

She was destroyed on Fracking

She wants to do what those stupid yahoos in commie California did and require that all new houses put in $50K solar panels.

The bitch and that Biden clown are as dumb as they come. If they knew anything about things like this they would know that Spain decided to go to a Green economy and it came clese to bankrupting the country.

If you want $10/gal gas at the pump then vote for Democrats because that is what you will get.

Raise taxes, increase welfare, allowed million more Illegals to flood in, shut the economy down more because of COVID and stop energy production in this country. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Indeependent]

It's misleading and disgusting.
More people are dying now outside the US than in the US.

Sorry, but I'm not capable of explaining things in a way you would understand.

Good luck.

Like asking someone during a campaign a question whose answer will sway weak minds.

 

[John T. Ford]

But...im not a leftist....

Right ....

And, B. Hussein was a Christian ....

 

[JoeB131]

...it was annoying that Harris dodged significant questions, like whether she and Biden agree with Democrats calling to pack the Supreme Court. Like Biden, she simply refuses to answer the question, an important one to voters.

Or she just realizes you should never limit your options. The dumbest thing ever said in politics was "Read my Lips, No New Taxes". Eventually, he had to raise taxes to save the banking system, and they reemed him for it.

First, we have to see if Turtle-boy rams through Serana Joy onto the court. Then we have to make an evaluation of whether or not expanding the court is justified or not.

 

[JoeB131]

Fox News says Pence won and Harris is not ready for Presidency!!
CNN says Harris won and Pence lies!!

I AM SHOCKED!!!!!!!

Actually, I thought they both did reasonably well, and this debate wasn't the dumpster fire the first one was.

Pence, however, had to defend a record of 212,000 dead and 40 million lost jobs.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Fox News says Pence won and Harris is not ready for Presidency!!
CNN says Harris won and Pence lies!!

I AM SHOCKED!!!!!!!

Actually, I thought they both did reasonably well, and this debate wasn't the dumpster fire the first one was.

Pence, however, had to defend a record of 212,000 dead and 40 million lost jobs.

 

[jc456]

Hey kids, let's try a math problem.

Canada's death rate as a percentage of our population is 253 per million.
USA's death rate as a percentage of our population is 657 per million.

What number can we multiply with 253 in order to get 657?

Did you get approximately 2.6? Good job. Is 2.6 close to 2.5? Yes it is. Well done. Good job, kids. Maybe those were the numbers they were comparing.

perhaps the US had more sick people ahead of the virus? just saying, those nursing homes ate most of those figures. right?

 

[jc456]

Pence, however, had to defend a record of 212,000 dead and 40 million lost jobs.

do you know why there were 40 million jobs lost?

When every major sport is canceled in all fields, hmmmmmmmm let's see, who would be impacted? Close all restaurants and what do you supposed happens? Pence didn't do that. The governors did that. The sport leaders did that. Not Pence. so not sure what you're implying or the moderator was? BTW, I feel sorry for you since you haven't any idea why those 40 million lost jobs happened that you have to ask. And, I want you to explain how that's on Pence and Trump?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Hey kids, let's try a math problem.

Canada's death rate as a percentage of our population is 253 per million.
USA's death rate as a percentage of our population is 657 per million.

What number can we multiply with 253 in order to get 657?

Did you get approximately 2.6? Good job. Is 2.6 close to 2.5? Yes it is. Well done. Good job, kids. Maybe those were the numbers they were comparing.

perhaps the US had more sick people ahead of the virus? just saying, those nursing homes ate most of those figures. right?

Doesn’t matter what you think. You don’t believe the numbers are real anyway so this discussion doesn’t apply to you.

 

[HaShev]

So....tell us about the Rose Garden Super Spreader event

The only one who could have infected people spanning a few events including the Rose garden event are the journalists, 1 in particular bragged on CNN about being in all events and has the virus.
Patient zero the super spreader might be New York Times correspondent Michael D. Shear who had a close interview with the president.
Whether it was done on purpose and
*on his own* is up to the investigative branch to figure out if he in fact ends up being the central source.
**Someone pointed to the grassy knoll and claimed they heard a cough coming from that area, another person pointed to an above balcony claiming they saw droplets raining from a sneeze. Some reporter named Spector said there was one single super droplet that ricochet off the president and redirected to various guests.