Voters short memories =Republicans too dangerous to be in charge of jobs and economy

[SniperFire]

Let's hope Lefty runs with a National debt argument.


Priceless!

All folks need to understand is that the Bush last fy budget ended Sept. 30, 2009

Obama signed that budget, bozo, replete with all of their Pelosian budget busting handouts.

They wouldn't let Bush anywhere near it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Lefty may now commence shitting their pants.

Not at all. We will simply win the Presidency once again, and maybe the Congress and Senate, also. After all, with the number of people that your candidates have been offending, and the mindless support of the 1% that you people have demonstrated, a lot of people don't want to see you mucking up the system again.

 

[SniperFire]

Everybody except the Republicas knows who ran up the debt. In George W. Bush's first cabinet meeting Dick Cheney said, "The Debt Doesn't Matter...Reagan Proved That"

You have the quotation of a quotation wrong, and they were referencing the impact which deficits have on the re-electability of an incumbent POTUS, not whether or not debt 'matters' to the health of the nation.

And Cheney was absolutely correct at the time. Fortunately, that has all changed.

Lying is all you got?

 

[mudwhistle]

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"Hey, your side has really screwed things up! Here are 500 examples"

"Yeah, well YOUR side has really screwed things up! Here are 500 MORE examples"

How proud both "sides" must be.

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I'm proud of the surplus left for George W. Bush and when he cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans...........TWICE and blocked Democrat opposition by using the reconciliation procedure he began to double the national debt. He almost made it.....from $5.7 trillion to nearly $12 trillion. Everybody sees it except the Republicans.

You're forgetting one big detail.....the Stimulus was passed early in 09'. That counts a minmum of $900 billion and as much as $1.2 trillion to the 09' FY debt.

Bush had nothing to do with that.....nether did any Repug.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Voters short memories=All the broken Obama promises and excuses made.

 

[Cammmpbell]

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"Hey, your side has really screwed things up! Here are 500 examples"

"Yeah, well YOUR side has really screwed things up! Here are 500 MORE examples"

How proud both "sides" must be.

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Well, if you notice....the debt didn't start sky-rocketing till Congress started stealing from the Teasury. When they decided to take from the Social Security/Medicare fund the debt went up fast.

But taking a close look at the 90s you'll see that that Congress had a surplus and started paying down the debt. Who was the speaker then? Who was the speaker from 07-2010?

That's a goddam lie about social security funds being involved in taxes and the national debt. Either prove your assertion or shut the phuck up!

 

[mudwhistle]

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"Hey, your side has really screwed things up! Here are 500 examples"

"Yeah, well YOUR side has really screwed things up! Here are 500 MORE examples"

How proud both "sides" must be.

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Well, if you notice....the debt didn't start sky-rocketing till Congress started stealing from the Teasury. When they decided to take from the Social Security/Medicare fund the debt went up fast.

But taking a close look at the 90s you'll see that that Congress had a surplus and started paying down the debt. Who was the speaker then? Who was the speaker from 07-2010?

That's a goddam lie about social security funds being involved in taxes and the national debt. Either prove your assertion or shut the phuck up!

A simple Google search would reveal it to you.

Congress has borrowed roughly $500 billion a year from the fund. Currently the American taxpayer owns more than anyone outside of the Treasury which owns the most which is in the form of US Savings Bonds. If you own savings bond you own a lot of the debt.

 

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Well, if you notice....the debt didn't start sky-rocketing till Congress started stealing from the Teasury. When they decided to take from the Social Security/Medicare fund the debt went up fast.

But taking a close look at the 90s you'll see that that Congress had a surplus and started paying down the debt. Who was the speaker then? Who was the speaker from 07-2010?

That's a goddam lie about social security funds being involved in taxes and the national debt. Either prove your assertion or shut the phuck up!

A simple Google search would reveal it to you.

Congress has borrowed roughly $500 billion a year from the fund. Currently the American taxpayer owns more than anyone outside of the Treasury which owns the most which is in the form of US Savings Bonds. If you own savings bond you own a lot of the debt.

What I would like for you to do is show me where Clinton did it:

 

[mudwhistle]

That's a goddam lie about social security funds being involved in taxes and the national debt. Either prove your assertion or shut the phuck up!

A simple Google search would reveal it to you.

Congress has borrowed roughly $500 billion a year from the fund. Currently the American taxpayer owns more than anyone outside of the Treasury which owns the most which is in the form of US Savings Bonds. If you own savings bond you own a lot of the debt.

What I would like for you to do is show me where Clinton did it:

I thought I was clear.....the President doesn't do it. Congress did it.

 

[Cammmpbell]

A simple Google search would reveal it to you.

Congress has borrowed roughly $500 billion a year from the fund. Currently the American taxpayer owns more than anyone outside of the Treasury which owns the most which is in the form of US Savings Bonds. If you own savings bond you own a lot of the debt.

What I would like for you to do is show me where Clinton did it:

I thought I was clear.....the President doesn't do it. Congress did it.

Well let's see now... there was a Republican congress from January 1995 till January 2007

George W. Bush cut taxes twice...2001 and 2003. He was the first president in the nation's history to borrow from Communist China. Now we owe them about a trillion dollars. Go ahead and face it. Bush doubled the debt and fixed the annual interest at a level which is so astronomically high that even paying the interest on it each year is second only to the defense budget. There's a mess alright but Barack Obama didn't make it.

Are we clear on that

 

[mudwhistle]

What I would like for you to do is show me where Clinton did it:

I thought I was clear.....the President doesn't do it. Congress did it.

Well let's see now... there was a Republican congress from January 1995 till January 2007

George W. Bush cut taxes twice...2001 and 2003. He was the first president in the nation's history to borrow from Communist China. Now we owe them about a trillion dollars. Go ahead and face it. Bush doubled the debt and fixed the annual interest at a level which is so astronomically high that even paying the interest on it each year is second only to the defense budget. There's a mess alright but Barack Obama didn't make it.

Are we clear on that

Actually we owe China $1.2 trillion. We owe Japan much more.

Course Bush didn't do it by himself. He needed Congress to agree with him. I remember the Dems saying it wasn't enough. It was never enough for them. So they borrowed from the Social Security/Medicare fund.

But guess what!

Obama borrowed $400 billion this weekend from the fund. First time that I know of a president doing so.

 

[Cammmpbell]

I thought I was clear.....the President doesn't do it. Congress did it.

Well let's see now... there was a Republican congress from January 1995 till January 2007

George W. Bush cut taxes twice...2001 and 2003. He was the first president in the nation's history to borrow from Communist China. Now we owe them about a trillion dollars. Go ahead and face it. Bush doubled the debt and fixed the annual interest at a level which is so astronomically high that even paying the interest on it each year is second only to the defense budget. There's a mess alright but Barack Obama didn't make it.

Are we clear on that

Actually we owe China $1.2 trillion. We owe Japan much more.

Course Bush didn't do it by himself. He needed Congress to agree with him. I remember the Dems saying it wasn't enough. It was never enough for them. So they borrowed from the Social Security/Medicare fund.

But guess what!

Obama borrowed $400 billion this weekend from the fund. First time that I know of a president doing so.

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well let's see now... there was a Republican congress from January 1995 till January 2007

George W. Bush cut taxes twice...2001 and 2003. He was the first president in the nation's history to borrow from Communist China. Now we owe them about a trillion dollars. Go ahead and face it. Bush doubled the debt and fixed the annual interest at a level which is so astronomically high that even paying the interest on it each year is second only to the defense budget. There's a mess alright but Barack Obama didn't make it.

Are we clear on that

Actually we owe China $1.2 trillion. We owe Japan much more.

Course Bush didn't do it by himself. He needed Congress to agree with him. I remember the Dems saying it wasn't enough. It was never enough for them. So they borrowed from the Social Security/Medicare fund.

But guess what!

Obama borrowed $400 billion this weekend from the fund. First time that I know of a president doing so.

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

Bullshit.. Clinton NEVER ran surplus and left Bush $5,800,000,000,000 of debt. Clinton used intra-governmental borrowings (SS Trust) fund rather than public borrowings to give the illusion he wasn't borrowing as much.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Actually we owe China $1.2 trillion. We owe Japan much more.

Course Bush didn't do it by himself. He needed Congress to agree with him. I remember the Dems saying it wasn't enough. It was never enough for them. So they borrowed from the Social Security/Medicare fund.

But guess what!

Obama borrowed $400 billion this weekend from the fund. First time that I know of a president doing so.

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

Bullshit.. Clinton NEVER ran surplus and left Bush $5,800,000,000,000 of debt. Clinton used intra-governmental borrowings (SS Trust) fund rather than public borrowings to give the illusion he wasn't borrowing as much.

hat's a goddam Republican lie! What part of cutting taxes for his rch buddies and corporations, starting two goddam wars, one totally by choice and doubling the national debt is it you fail to understand

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[Mr Natural]

Actually we owe China $1.2 trillion. We owe Japan much more.

Course Bush didn't do it by himself. He needed Congress to agree with him. I remember the Dems saying it wasn't enough. It was never enough for them. So they borrowed from the Social Security/Medicare fund.

But guess what!

Obama borrowed $400 billion this weekend from the fund. First time that I know of a president doing so.

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

Bullshit.. Clinton NEVER ran surplus and left Bush $5,800,000,000,000 of debt. Clinton used intra-governmental borrowings (SS Trust) fund rather than public borrowings to give the illusion he wasn't borrowing as much.

Then where did those $300 checks come from?

 

[Cammmpbell]

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

Bullshit.. Clinton NEVER ran surplus and left Bush $5,800,000,000,000 of debt. Clinton used intra-governmental borrowings (SS Trust) fund rather than public borrowings to give the illusion he wasn't borrowing as much.

Then where did those $300 checks come from?

I'm reminded of what my maternal grandmother used to say, "That Nut Would Argue With A Stop Sign:

:

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

Bullshit.. Clinton NEVER ran surplus and left Bush $5,800,000,000,000 of debt. Clinton used intra-governmental borrowings (SS Trust) fund rather than public borrowings to give the illusion he wasn't borrowing as much.

Then where did those $300 checks come from?

Thin mother ******* air... like everything else.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Leftist moonbat logic:

I make $50,000, I spend $60,000, but since I took the $10,000 deficit from my 401k rather than putting it on my CC, I lived within my means!

 

[Cammmpbell]

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

Bullshit.. Clinton NEVER ran surplus and left Bush $5,800,000,000,000 of debt. Clinton used intra-governmental borrowings (SS Trust) fund rather than public borrowings to give the illusion he wasn't borrowing as much.

Then where did those $300 checks come from?

HRES 490 IH
106th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. RES. 490
To ensure that the fiscal year 2000 on-budget surplus is used to reduce publicly-held debt.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
May 4, 2000
Mr. WELDON of Florida (for himself, Mr. ARMEY, Mr. DELAY, Mr. LARGENT, Mr. COBURN, and Mr. STEARNS) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means

RESOLUTION

To ensure that the fiscal year 2000 on-budget surplus is used to reduce publicly-held debt and provide tax relief to American taxpayers.
Resolved,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Save Our Surplus for Debt Reduction and Tax Rebate Resolution of 2000'.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS AND PURPOSE.
(a) FINDINGS- Congress finds that--
(1) the Office of Management and Budget estimated in the President's fiscal year 2001 budget submission that the Government will have a $19,000,000,000 nonsocial security surplus (on-budget surplus) in fiscal year 2000;
(2) it is expected that in the summer of 2000, the Office of Management and Budget will estimate an even larger budget surplus for fiscal year 2000;
(3) Government spending in fiscal year 2000 will increase faster than the rate of inflation for a total of over $1,750,000,000,000;
(4) the public debt has been paid down by $51,000,000,000 in fiscal year 1998, $88,000,000,000 in fiscal year 1999, and current estimates are that $163,000,000,000 will be paid down in fiscal year 2000;

 

[mudwhistle]

Well let's see now... there was a Republican congress from January 1995 till January 2007

George W. Bush cut taxes twice...2001 and 2003. He was the first president in the nation's history to borrow from Communist China. Now we owe them about a trillion dollars. Go ahead and face it. Bush doubled the debt and fixed the annual interest at a level which is so astronomically high that even paying the interest on it each year is second only to the defense budget. There's a mess alright but Barack Obama didn't make it.

Are we clear on that

Actually we owe China $1.2 trillion. We owe Japan much more.

Course Bush didn't do it by himself. He needed Congress to agree with him. I remember the Dems saying it wasn't enough. It was never enough for them. So they borrowed from the Social Security/Medicare fund.

But guess what!

Obama borrowed $400 billion this weekend from the fund. First time that I know of a president doing so.

You're lying through your teeth again. Look at the goodam chart then find someting which says Clinton's surplus had anything to do wiith the ss trust fund. You can 't find it because it isn't there.

That chart is incomplete. Best source is the CBO webpage. Look for entries on intragovermental funds, mandates, actions, etc. Congressional Budget Office (CBO)

Go check it out and get back with me. I'll give you a kick in the nuts then *****.