Vietnam War and question for the boomer generation

[Frankeneinstein]

If JFK had not been assassinated, he would have made the same mistakes in Vietnam that LBJ did

Well perhaps, but the scuttlebutt on the left is that he was assassinated because he had no intention of making those mistakes...SEE: Oliver Stone

 

[gipper]

JFK had the same advisors and generals that LBJ did.
Robert MacNamara would have given him the same advice he gave LBJ.
Like LBJ, JFK did not want to appear soft on Communism and would have sent troops to keep S Vietnam from falling to the Communists

Vietnam in 1963 was not the same as Vietnam in 1965

Yes and they all opposed his efforts to stop the war. Some say this is why they assassinated him.

Tell me what changed in Vietnam between 1963 and 1965?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

If JFK had lived, I think rather than Camelot, he would have been heckled just as badly as LBJ was

So "Hanoi Jane" would have seen Kennedy as Hitler as well?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Yes and they all opposed his efforts to stop the war. Some say this is why they assassinated him.

If it was in fact an assassination, then that is probably why

Tell me what changed in Vietnam between 1963 and 1965?

Kennedy issued an "nsa" or "sam" or some memorandum numbered 263 [look that up as it may be the incorrect number] ordering down the troops in Nam [between 10 and 20 thousand stationed in the south] by 1000...
... after he was killed, Johnson, as the story goes, drew up memorandum 264 or 265 [look that up as well] during the Kennedy funeral procession reversing Kennedy's orders and flooding Nam with hundreds of thousands of troops by 65...the war was on

 

[gipper]

If it was in fact an assassination, then that is probably why

Kennedy issued an nsa or sam or some memorandum numbered 263 [look that up as it may be the incorrect number] ordering down the troops in Nam [between 10 and 20 thousand stationed in the south] by 1000, after he was killed Johnson, as the story goes, drew up memorandum 264 or 265 [look that up as well] during the Kennedy funeral procession reversing Kennedy's orders and flooding Nam with hundreds of thousands of troops by 65...the war was on

Yes. LBJ’s actions expanding the war immediately after JFK’s assassination, would seem to be a red flag.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Yes. LBJ’s actions expanding the war immediately after JFK’s assassination, would seem to be a red flag.

I'm not sure of how accurate that information was, but no one seems to dispute it.

 

[rightwinger]

So? Is this to say that you do believe "Hanoi Jane" would have called Kennedy Hitler?

Vietnam protestors like Jane Fonda and John Kerry were Patriots

They recognized that we had no business being in Vietnam and that we were being lied to

The Traitors were those who wrapped themselves in the flag and promised quick victory while they proceeded to get 60,000 Americans killed

 

[rightwinger]

Yes. LBJ’s actions expanding the war immediately after JFK’s assassination, would seem to be a red flag.

LBJ wanted no part of Vietnam
But he was told by his advisors that “You don’t want Vietnam going Communist on your watch”. Just give us 60,000 troops and we will wrap this thing up by Christmas with minimal casualties

No politician in the 60s would have turned that down. Not JFK, not Nixon, not Goldwater, not Rockefeller

 

[Mr Natural]

Vietnam protestors like Jane Fonda and John Kerry were Patriots

They recognized that we had no business being in Vietnam and that we were being lied to

The Traitors were those who wrapped themselves in the flag and promised quick victory while they proceeded to get 60,000 Americans killed

And many of those 60,000 were enslaved via the draft.

You Gen Xers and Millenials can thank us Boomers for relieving you of that obligation.

 

[Mac-7]

Fifty thousand young guys (many enslaved via the draft) died needlessly in that fucking useless fiasco. It made me ashamed to be an American.

I escaped it by joining the Navy.

And Jane Fonda remains a hero of mine for doing what she did.

the Vietnam War was an effort to save one small country from the curse of communism

The effort failed thank to jane fonda and quisling democrats in congress

But it was a noble effort

 

[Mr Natural]

the Vietnam War was an effort to save one small country from the curse of communism

The effort failed thank to jane fonda and quisling democrats in congress

But it was a noble effort

And the commies won anyway and now they’re making clothing and hats for us.

A complete waste of 60,000 young lives thanks to some stupid domino theory bullshit.

 

[Mac-7]

And the commies won anyway and now they’re making clothing and hats for us.

The war is over but libs just cant give it up

 

[Mr Natural]

The war is over but libs just cant give it up

Bad mistakes should never be forgotten.

 

[Mac-7]

And the commies won anyway and now they’re making clothing and hats for us.

A complete waste of 60,000 young lives thanks to some stupid domino theory bullshit.

The domino theory was correct

We lost South Vietnam and Cambodia but saved Thailand and the rest of SE Asia

 

[Mr Natural]

The domino theory was correct

It was bullshit.

 

[Mac-7]

It was bullshit.

It is naive of libs to think that international communism did not want Burma and Thailand also

 

[rightwinger]

the Vietnam War was an effort to save one small country from the curse of communism

The effort failed thank to jane fonda and quisling democrats in congress

But it was a noble effort

Vietnam was a Civil War that we turned into a Cold War

Fonda and other protestors were right about the war
War hawks lied to us and killed 60,000

 

[gipper]

LBJ wanted no part of Vietnam
But he was told by his advisors that “You don’t want Vietnam going Communist on your watch”. Just give us 60,000 troops and we will wrap this thing up by Christmas with minimal casualties

No politician in the 60s would have turned that down. Not JFK, not Nixon, not Goldwater, not Rockefeller

Yeah sure. He just expanded our presence their as soon as he took office. Lol.

 

[Mac-7]

Vietnam was a Civil War that we turned into a Cold War

Fonda and other protestors were right about the war
War hawks lied to us and killed 60,000

It was a civil war backed by russia and china for communist expansion leading to world domination

 

[gipper]

It was a civil war backed by russia and china for communist expansion leading to world domination

Lmfao!!!!