Video Survives After Denver Cops Beat Man, Snatch Camera and Delete Footage

[Lonestar_logic]

He didn't. You have no point. Woulda, coulda, shoulda doesn't matter. Facts are what matters.

Fact the subject was attempting to swallow a large amount of heroin.
Fact the police attempting to stop the subject.
Fact the man is still alive, in jail, but alive.

Fact. They didnt have to pummel him to stop the object and possibly kill him. How badly did the CO beat you in prison to cause your brain damage?

Fact is they did pummel him and he deserved it.

You sound like and abused child. The CO's abused you nightly didnt they?. No he didnt deserve it. Neither did you even though they told you that.

Stay on topic, it isn't about me or your insecurities.

I am on topic. You deflected when you started reliving your days of abuse at the hands of the CO's that beat you. You didnt deserve to be beaten no matter how dumb you are.

I'm not the topic you moron.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Candy-asses bat GUANO and Asslips whimpering about PO-lice brutality....how much lamer can it get?

So you're cool with breaking jaws and tackling pregnant women to the pavement.

Why am I not surprised.

You seem to be cool with making shit up.

No shit need be "made up". It's already on video. Despite police suppression of evidence.
Now if you too are OK with that take yer boyfriend and go in on an apartment in Pyonyang.

Yes and no one tackled the woman as you claimed and the video shows no jaws being broken. You made that shit up!

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Usually the biggest actual bad-asses are the quietist guys in the room. Never knew a SEAL who bragged about how big & bad they were.

But thank you for proving my point. Police are not supposed to be ASS KICKERS, they are supposed to protect and serve.

See, this is why threads like this are ****** THREADS....bellyaching twinks who don't know shit about anything. Who's the "quietest guy in the room" means what? Nothing.....who's talking about a S.E.A.L.? I've known a couple and you haven't....so you're talking out your fairy ass. "to serve and protect" is what's written on the side of the patrol car.....a cop's motto, GET HOME ALIVE TONIGHT. You want your negroes to be a protected class, tell them to act like decent citizens and to police their own neighborhoods. As long as there is a HUGE criminal class of negroes, innocent blacks will be hassled to see what they're up to....it's a thin blue line....you punks don't really want what you're asking for because YOU are more afraid of the thug element than we are.....we'll defend ourselves...you don't know how.

Nope, no Texan logic there. The size of the penis is inversely proportional to the amount of bluster, and you lonestar, have so much bluster you must have a vagina (no offense to those ladies out there)

Unless, of course, you are one of those ass kicking bulls with a badge....in which case I can see why you so vigorously defend police brutality.

By the way, use Google to find out what a Boatswain is.....

That the best insult you got?

 

[BullKurtz]

MB DID HAVE HIS HANDS UP in the air, momentarily...even officer Wilson testified that MB did have his hands up.... again, momentarily.... and then brought his hands down to the chest level.....

so your facts or what you think are facts, are INCORRECT.

Got a link to Wilson ever saying that? I doubt it.

 

[BullKurtz]

I would think you would get along famously with Milkweed and Guano.

Three idiots in a pod.

And this was police brutalitiy

Of course it was ya grimy little pissant....don't **** with cops...not that you'd have the nads to.

 

[Asclepias]

Fact. They didnt have to pummel him to stop the object and possibly kill him. How badly did the CO beat you in prison to cause your brain damage?

Fact is they did pummel him and he deserved it.

You sound like and abused child. The CO's abused you nightly didnt they?. No he didnt deserve it. Neither did you even though they told you that.

Stay on topic, it isn't about me or your insecurities.

I am on topic. You deflected when you started reliving your days of abuse at the hands of the CO's that beat you. You didnt deserve to be beaten no matter how dumb you are.

I'm not the topic you moron.

Your beatings by the CO's have given you a tainted outlook on life. Of course you are the topic.

 

[Care4all]

MB DID HAVE HIS HANDS UP in the air, momentarily...even officer Wilson testified that MB did have his hands up.... again, momentarily.... and then brought his hands down to the chest level.....

so your facts or what you think are facts, are INCORRECT.

Got a link to Wilson ever saying that? I doubt it.

A one-chart summary of every Ferguson eyewitness x27 s grand jury testimony - Vox

I am sorry, I read the chart wrong and was wrong.

Wilson answered yes on 'he put his arms up to the waste' question but did not answer or was not asked if MB put his hands up in the air....why they did not ask him is beyond reason?

so, an honest mistake on the column of checks that I was looking at...

 

[Asclepias]

MB DID HAVE HIS HANDS UP in the air, momentarily...even officer Wilson testified that MB did have his hands up.... again, momentarily.... and then brought his hands down to the chest level.....

so your facts or what you think are facts, are INCORRECT.

Got a link to Wilson ever saying that? I doubt it.

Why would anyone believe anything Wilson said? He was trying to keep from going to prison.

 

[Asclepias]

MB DID HAVE HIS HANDS UP in the air, momentarily...even officer Wilson testified that MB did have his hands up.... again, momentarily.... and then brought his hands down to the chest level.....

so your facts or what you think are facts, are INCORRECT.

Got a link to Wilson ever saying that? I doubt it.

A one-chart summary of every Ferguson eyewitness x27 s grand jury testimony - Vox

I am sorry, I read the chart wrong and was wrong.

Wilson answered yes on 'he put his arms up to the waste' question but did not answer or was not asked if MB put his hands up in the air....why they did not ask him is beyond reason?

so, an honest mistake on the column of checks that I was looking at...

Prosecutor never crossed examined him even once in 4 hours. The fix was in.

 

[Asclepias]

What does that have to do with the point he could have?

He didn't. You have no point. Woulda, coulda, shoulda doesn't matter. Facts are what matters.

Fact the subject was attempting to swallow a large amount of heroin.
Fact the police attempting to stop the subject.
Fact the man is still alive, in jail, but alive.

Fact. They didnt have to pummel him to stop the object and possibly kill him. How badly did the CO beat you in prison to cause your brain damage?

Fact is they did pummel him and he deserved it.

You sound like and abused child. The CO's abused you nightly didnt they?. No he didnt deserve it. Neither did you even though they told you that.

Yes he deserved it.

You are just repeating what the CO's told you while you were in the joint. You nor anyone else deserves to get beat unless they have molested a child or hit a woman.

 

[BullKurtz]

Prosecutor never crossed examined him even once in 4 hours. The fix was in.

Nobody gets cross-examined in front of a grand jury you ******* moron...the JURORS ask questions not the prosecution or defense.

 

[Asclepias]

Prosecutor never crossed examined him even once in 4 hours. The fix was in.

Nobody gets cross-examined in front of a grand jury you ******* moron...the JURORS ask questions not the prosecution or defense.

Go play in the sand box. You have no idea what you are talking about you ******* idiot.

Its the prosecutors job to cross examine anyone he is attempting to bring charges against if they testify for the grand jury. I bet now you are going to claim you were a attorney in one of your past lives?

 

[Pogo]

Candy-asses bat GUANO and Asslips whimpering about PO-lice brutality....how much lamer can it get?

So you're cool with breaking jaws and tackling pregnant women to the pavement.

Why am I not surprised.

You seem to be cool with making shit up.

No shit need be "made up". It's already on video. Despite police suppression of evidence.
Now if you too are OK with that take yer boyfriend and go in on an apartment in Pyonyang.

Yes and no one tackled the woman as you claimed and the video shows no jaws being broken. You made that shit up!

The pregnant woman being tackled is right there on video dood. Didn't bother to watch any of it didja? Well that's why you're in the hole you're in.

 

[Pogo]

I would think you would get along famously with Milkweed and Guano.

Three idiots in a pod.

And this was police brutalitiy

Of course it was ya grimy little pissant....don't **** with cops...not that you'd have the nads to.

Apparently you don't have the nads to stand up to 'em, Madge.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Candy-asses bat GUANO and Asslips whimpering about PO-lice brutality....how much lamer can it get?

So you're cool with breaking jaws and tackling pregnant women to the pavement.

Why am I not surprised.

You seem to be cool with making shit up.

No shit need be "made up". It's already on video. Despite police suppression of evidence.
Now if you too are OK with that take yer boyfriend and go in on an apartment in Pyonyang.

Yes and no one tackled the woman as you claimed and the video shows no jaws being broken. You made that shit up!

The pregnant woman being tackled is right there on video dood. Didn't bother to watch any of it didja? Well that's why you're in the hole you're in.

She was tripped after trying to kick the officer.

This is a tackle!

 

[Pogo]

So you're cool with breaking jaws and tackling pregnant women to the pavement.

Why am I not surprised.

You seem to be cool with making shit up.

No shit need be "made up". It's already on video. Despite police suppression of evidence.
Now if you too are OK with that take yer boyfriend and go in on an apartment in Pyonyang.

Yes and no one tackled the woman as you claimed and the video shows no jaws being broken. You made that shit up!

The pregnant woman being tackled is right there on video dood. Didn't bother to watch any of it didja? Well that's why you're in the hole you're in.

She was tripped after trying to kick the officer.

This is a tackle!

Absolute bullshit. I ain't much of a football fan but even I know there's more than one way to tackle. Nor is there any evidence whatsoever of her "kicking". Blatant dishonesty noted and logged.

Now living in Texas you have a legitimate excuse for not knowing about football. But the video evidence is right there and there's no "kicking". Authoritarian sycophants like you make me want to puke my guts out.

 

[The Professor]

Prosecutor never crossed examined him even once in 4 hours. The fix was in.

Nobody gets cross-examined in front of a grand jury you ******* moron...the JURORS ask questions not the prosecution or defense.

Go play in the sand box. You have no idea what you are talking about you ******* idiot.

Its the prosecutors job to cross examine anyone he is attempting to bring charges against if they testify for the grand jury. I bet now you are going to claim you were a attorney in one of your past lives?

You are both wrong.


BULKRUTZUSMC said “...the JURORS ask questions not the prosecution or defense.” This is wrong. First, the prosecutor does in fact ask questions, and second there is no such thing as a "defense" in grand jury proceedings.


But you are also wrong when you claim that it is the prosecutor's job to cross-examine a defendant who is called as a witness. Cross-examinations are routine in an adversarial process such as a jury trial , but this is not done in grand jury proceedings. Here is a good explanation of how a grand jury functions:


“In carrying out its two functions of reviewing criminal charges which have been brought by police and prosecutors and conducting investigations of possible criminal behavior, the grand jury meets in secret, behind closed doors. Its proceedings are usually one-sided, and are very different from a trial. Unlike a public trial, the accused person is not present (unless he or she is called as a witness), nor is his/her counsel present (even if he is called as a witness). Also, witnesses are not cross-examined. Not even a judge is present in the grand jury room, although a judge will be contacted if a witness refuses to answer a question and the prosecutor wishes to cite the witness for contempt.


“The prosecutor presents the state's case by asking the witness questions. The grand jurors also may ask questions, but neither the actual eyewitness to an alleged crime nor the alleged victim of that crime need to appear as witnesses. The rules that apply in court to exclude most hearsay evidence (evidence provided by someone who did not actually witness the crime) do not apply in the grand jury room. Therefore, a police officer may simply testify as to what eye-witnesses and alleged victims have said.


“Further, information obtained by illegal police investigation, unconstitutional surveillance, or by unreliable means, can be heard and relied upon by grand jurors, even though that information would not be admissible if the case proceeded to trial. Finally, even if a prosecutor knows of information which would help show that the accused person is innocent, he is not required to present it to the grand jury. So, while two sides are presented in a trial, it may be that only one side will be presented in a grand jury proceeding.”


OSBA How Does a Grand Jury Operate



Note: If the prosecutor had wanted an indictment he could have gotten one. This is because the prosecutor may call only those witnesses which support his side. He may also introduce evidence which would not be allowed in a trial court and - most important of all - he may withhold any and all evidence which would be favorable to the defendant . The prosecutor did not have to call officer Wilson as a witness and many people including posters on this forum have criticized him for doing so. It is clear that the prosecutor's primary objective was not to get an indictment but rather to lay everything out and let the grand jury decide.

 

[Agit8r]

Hopefully those worthless pigs get gunned down. There is no place for such "people" in a free country.

 

[BullKurtz]

I was not wrong...all I was saying with my reply is that Asslips is once again a stinking turd talking about "cross examination" of GJ witnesses. Yes the prosecutor asks questions but not in an adversarial way...he is simply guiding the proceedings. And as noted, JURORS ask questions and probably the more germane questions because they hold the ultimate decision whether or not to indict. It's highly unlikely a prosecutor will bring in bogus evidence to get an indictment when he couldn't get that evidence in front of a trial jury.

Is there a defense present during a GJ investigation?...you bet there is....outside the room, and a witness can stop the proceedings to consult with their attorney before returning to answer the question. Or take the 5th on advice of counsel. Prosecutors are under state bar rules of inquiry and can be disbarred for shenanigans ala Wilfong in the Duke LaCross team case.

In the Wilson/Brown matter, the prosecution presented every witness who gave a statement, all three autopsy reports, and ballistics and forensic evidence...the GJ saw it all and decided no crime had been committed.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Don't break the law and you won't get your ass kicked by the police.

Boy, the boot lickers are out in full force today.