Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[Jitss617]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

 

[bodecea]

So the next time a white guy is in a Black neighborhood someone should shoot him?

If he's stupid enough to go there, probably yes.

You scared of black neighborhoods?

I lived in a primarily black neighborhood when I was younger. In Oklahoma City. Not that scary.

Unless you are a snowflake.

There are no black neighborhoods that arent best avoided. Its why decent blacks fight so hard to get into white neighborhoods.

I remember the days when: "There are no Italian neighborhoods that arent [sic] best avoided. Its [sic] why decent Italians fight so hard to get into white neighborhoods. " (and yes, there was a time when Italians, especially Southern Italians, were not considered really white)

 

[Jitss617]

If we’re going to rely on the media to give us proper information forget about it. It could come out of this guy was the robber we could be audio of him saying ******* white boy motherfuckers.. And it won’t release it and they won’t give us any information

The media will lie, twist, spin etc etc always when it comes to black criminals...in the medias narrative all blacks are innocent and all whites are evil racists.

Was this shooting victim a criminal?

It was a struggle for a gun in self-defense

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "**** off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.

I am responding to Lone Leftist's question. To me all lives are equal, I don't play the race game. But you don't want to hear that. In actuality, I don't care what you want or think. You're an idiot and a coward, by your own self admission. Not sure why you keep responding to my posts? You lonely hiding under that bed?

Bullshit. You specifically said Black people have to get you on their side. Like I said then I will say now. **** you. I dont want or need your type of help. Dont be mad about that bro.

I did? LOL

I said "black people need me on their side"?

You certainly misconstrued that statement. But whatever. To my face you'd never say any of this. You're a typical coward, internet tough guy. You live your life and I'll live mine. You want to live like a victim the rest of your life then so be it. I don't care. After all, by your own operational definition, I am superior as I am "white"..ooohhhhh.

Idiot.

Yes you did say that and there is no way to misconstrue it. Dont be mad bro. Youre help is not needed or wanted. Black people would be up shit creek if they needed your help.

Stop replying to me. Cowards are a waste of my time. You see what you want to see.

I will when you stop trying to talk to me and mentioning me everytime you get a sad.

One time is every time?

You're a stupid idiot and a coward who is scared of a cold virus. I don't have time for cowards. Go cry over your reparations to someone who cares. I've experienced more racism than you and you rarely see me bring it up. You bring it up daily. *****.

This is like the 5th time you have whined to someone that I didnt want your help. Stop your crying.

Wrong. I answered a direct question. 5th time? LOL

You cannot even count. So not only are you a ***** you're also an idiot. Stop replying to me. You're pathetic.

You sad sack of lying shit.

No one asked you about me. You freely volunteered to whine. Here is the supposed question

"you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all."

Here is your "I have a sad" answer referencing me for no reason whatsover.

"Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes."

Get over it and please stop whining and talking about or to me.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

This was the post I was responding too. Now go and play in traffic you sensitive snowflake.

Nope. This was the post you were responding to.
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That was yesterday. And?

If it triggers you so much, I'll keep doing it now. What are you going to do about it?

Nothing.

And you should stop whining about me and mentioning me just because I gave you a sad.

Nope. Now I am going to stalk you and see how you like it. This will be fun. BTW - those in the truck are going to jail for life. You'll likely be joining them soon. It is a free messageboard if you don't want to read my posts making you look like an idiot then feel free to follow IM2 and put me on ignore. Otherwise reap the love. I am going to crush you and there is nothing you can do about. *****.

Its the internet dude. You cant stalk me.

No, it is a messageboard. Idiot. Never said I would do it over the Internet.

 

[Gantlemagne]

My initial gut feeling tells Me, AA was involved in some kind burglary, and maybe even was armed. He was caught, ditched his gun, might have even shot at the guys chasing after him, and then the result was that he was caught, tried to fight them off, and then got shot when he went for the other guys gun. He was a thief... maybe he didn't learn his lesson. And that's just what My gut is telling Me as an investigator. And you know how the Black community politicizes and mobilizes even when the evidence is clear that the Black criminal who is shot was threatening and firing with deadly force at Police Officers.

What happened to Ariel in Chicago is much worse.

 

[Asclepias]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

That's not how the law is supposed to work. I had the video that showed it all along with a witness and you got jack diddly. This was second degree murder or Nit could've been first degree. We know these guys were racist. What's the punishment for a capital crime in Georgia? Better yet the Feds are investigating for a hate crime. Let these suckas burn.

Nonsense......how do you know these guys were racist? Not that in and of itself would matter.

What matters is the facts of the case which though very simple seem beyond your grasp......can anyone say because you are biased?

Not even to mention you have a severe ignorance of the law.

Again.....watch the whole video and you will clearly see the black guy jogging down the road....then he runs around the truck to the right on the passenger side....the father is in the bed of the truck....the son is to the front and left of the truck....the black jogger then quickly runs to the left to attack the son with the shotgun.....when he runs into the white guy we hear a gunshot and then we hear a second and 3rd gunshot as the black guy strikes the white guy and they struggle for the gun...and then we see the jogger start to run off and then collapses.

Simple case of self defense....black guy stupidly attacks white guy with a gun and gets killed. Case closed.

Watch the full video....click on full video.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/05/05/6652278922238606272/640x360_MP4_6652278922238606272.mp4

The video does not show clearly where the gunman was standing when he was "attacked" by Arbery, but he appears to have moved in front of the truck when Arbery viered off to the right. It looks like he was stalking Arbery and Arbery was trying to avoid him. It is interesting that it was the gunmen's friend following behind who shot the video. Third arrest?

Definitely an accessory to the crime. It was probably going to go up on some website called GettinDemNigrahs.com

Arbery ran to the other side of the truck, away from his earlier trajectory, when he saw the gunman and appeared to try to run up a driveway, and then probably lunged at the gunman when he realized that he couldn't outrun him and might be shot in the back. This stinks like week old fish. If this wasn't premeditated, why the guy filming from the back?

In some states, the third guy would be charged with murder because even drivers of getaway cars in robberies are charged if a murder has occurred inside during a robbery.

Thats crazy talk

the driver of the 2nd car committed no crime

Aiding and abetting.

 

[jc456]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "**** off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.

I am responding to Lone Leftist's question. To me all lives are equal, I don't play the race game. But you don't want to hear that. In actuality, I don't care what you want or think. You're an idiot and a coward, by your own self admission. Not sure why you keep responding to my posts? You lonely hiding under that bed?

Bullshit. You specifically said Black people have to get you on their side. Like I said then I will say now. **** you. I dont want or need your type of help. Dont be mad about that bro.

I did? LOL

I said "black people need me on their side"?

You certainly misconstrued that statement. But whatever. To my face you'd never say any of this. You're a typical coward, internet tough guy. You live your life and I'll live mine. You want to live like a victim the rest of your life then so be it. I don't care. After all, by your own operational definition, I am superior as I am "white"..ooohhhhh.

Idiot.

Yes you did say that and there is no way to misconstrue it. Dont be mad bro. Youre help is not needed or wanted. Black people would be up shit creek if they needed your help.

Stop replying to me. Cowards are a waste of my time. You see what you want to see.

I will when you stop trying to talk to me and mentioning me everytime you get a sad.

One time is every time?

You're a stupid idiot and a coward who is scared of a cold virus. I don't have time for cowards. Go cry over your reparations to someone who cares. I've experienced more racism than you and you rarely see me bring it up. You bring it up daily. *****.

This is like the 5th time you have whined to someone that I didnt want your help. Stop your crying.

Wrong. I answered a direct question. 5th time? LOL

You cannot even count. So not only are you a ***** you're also an idiot. Stop replying to me. You're pathetic.

You sad sack of lying shit.

No one asked you about me. You freely volunteered to whine. Here is the supposed question

"you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all."

Here is your "I have a sad" answer referencing me for no reason whatsover.

"Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes."

Get over it and please stop whining and talking about or to me.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

This was the post I was responding too. Now go and play in traffic you sensitive snowflake.

Nope. This was the post you were responding to.
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That was yesterday. And?

If it triggers you so much, I'll keep doing it now. What are you going to do about it?

Nothing.

And you should stop whining about me and mentioning me just because I gave you a sad.

Nope. Now I am going to stalk you and see how you like it. This will be fun. BTW - those in the truck are going to jail for life. You'll likely be joining them soon. It is a free messageboard if you don't want to read my posts making you look like an idiot then feel free to follow IM2 and put me on ignore. Otherwise reap the love. I am going to crush you and there is nothing you can do about. *****.

no point in getting yourself targeted by the mods dude. you have more class than him.

 

[bodecea]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

 

[Asclepias]

My initial gut feeling tells Me, AA was involved in some kind burglary, and maybe even was armed. He was caught, ditched his gun, might have even shot at the guys chasing after him, and then the result was that he was caught, tried to fight them off, and then got shot when he went for the other guys gun. He was a thief... maybe he didn't learn his lesson. And that's just what My gut is telling Me as an investigator. And you know how the Black community politicizes and mobilizes even when the evidence is clear that the Black criminal who is shot was threatening and firing with deadly force at Police Officers.

If he shot at the guys why didnt they say that in their report or even mentioned he in fact did have a gun?

 

[Lysistrata]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

well actually if you are watching the video, the struggle is over the gun and the gun goes off three times during the struggle, the white kid never aimed his gun at the jogger. Therefore, there isn't an intent to shoot.

We don't know what happened in front of the truck, but Arbery did try to go up a driveway.

 

[Asclepias]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "**** off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.

I am responding to Lone Leftist's question. To me all lives are equal, I don't play the race game. But you don't want to hear that. In actuality, I don't care what you want or think. You're an idiot and a coward, by your own self admission. Not sure why you keep responding to my posts? You lonely hiding under that bed?

Bullshit. You specifically said Black people have to get you on their side. Like I said then I will say now. **** you. I dont want or need your type of help. Dont be mad about that bro.

I did? LOL

I said "black people need me on their side"?

You certainly misconstrued that statement. But whatever. To my face you'd never say any of this. You're a typical coward, internet tough guy. You live your life and I'll live mine. You want to live like a victim the rest of your life then so be it. I don't care. After all, by your own operational definition, I am superior as I am "white"..ooohhhhh.

Idiot.

Yes you did say that and there is no way to misconstrue it. Dont be mad bro. Youre help is not needed or wanted. Black people would be up shit creek if they needed your help.

Stop replying to me. Cowards are a waste of my time. You see what you want to see.

I will when you stop trying to talk to me and mentioning me everytime you get a sad.

One time is every time?

You're a stupid idiot and a coward who is scared of a cold virus. I don't have time for cowards. Go cry over your reparations to someone who cares. I've experienced more racism than you and you rarely see me bring it up. You bring it up daily. *****.

This is like the 5th time you have whined to someone that I didnt want your help. Stop your crying.

Wrong. I answered a direct question. 5th time? LOL

You cannot even count. So not only are you a ***** you're also an idiot. Stop replying to me. You're pathetic.

You sad sack of lying shit.

No one asked you about me. You freely volunteered to whine. Here is the supposed question

"you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all."

Here is your "I have a sad" answer referencing me for no reason whatsover.

"Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes."

Get over it and please stop whining and talking about or to me.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

This was the post I was responding too. Now go and play in traffic you sensitive snowflake.

Nope. This was the post you were responding to.
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That was yesterday. And?

If it triggers you so much, I'll keep doing it now. What are you going to do about it?

Nothing.

And you should stop whining about me and mentioning me just because I gave you a sad.

Nope. Now I am going to stalk you and see how you like it. This will be fun. BTW - those in the truck are going to jail for life. You'll likely be joining them soon. It is a free messageboard if you don't want to read my posts making you look like an idiot then feel free to follow IM2 and put me on ignore. Otherwise reap the love. I am going to crush you and there is nothing you can do about. *****.

Its the internet dude. You cant stalk me.

No, it is a messageboard. Idiot. Never said I would do it over the Internet.

The messageboard is on the internet dummy.

 

[jc456]

My initial gut feeling tells Me, AA was involved in some kind burglary, and maybe even was armed. He was caught, ditched his gun, might have even shot at the guys chasing after him, and then the result was that he was caught, tried to fight them off, and then got shot when he went for the other guys gun. He was a thief... maybe he didn't learn his lesson. And that's just what My gut is telling Me as an investigator. And you know how the Black community politicizes and mobilizes even when the evidence is clear that the Black criminal who is shot was threatening and firing with deadly force at Police Officers.

What happened to Ariel Namor in Chicago is much worse.

I just want to know why someone was videotaping him running.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "**** off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.

I am responding to Lone Leftist's question. To me all lives are equal, I don't play the race game. But you don't want to hear that. In actuality, I don't care what you want or think. You're an idiot and a coward, by your own self admission. Not sure why you keep responding to my posts? You lonely hiding under that bed?

Bullshit. You specifically said Black people have to get you on their side. Like I said then I will say now. **** you. I dont want or need your type of help. Dont be mad about that bro.

I did? LOL

I said "black people need me on their side"?

You certainly misconstrued that statement. But whatever. To my face you'd never say any of this. You're a typical coward, internet tough guy. You live your life and I'll live mine. You want to live like a victim the rest of your life then so be it. I don't care. After all, by your own operational definition, I am superior as I am "white"..ooohhhhh.

Idiot.

Yes you did say that and there is no way to misconstrue it. Dont be mad bro. Youre help is not needed or wanted. Black people would be up shit creek if they needed your help.

Stop replying to me. Cowards are a waste of my time. You see what you want to see.

I will when you stop trying to talk to me and mentioning me everytime you get a sad.

One time is every time?

You're a stupid idiot and a coward who is scared of a cold virus. I don't have time for cowards. Go cry over your reparations to someone who cares. I've experienced more racism than you and you rarely see me bring it up. You bring it up daily. *****.

This is like the 5th time you have whined to someone that I didnt want your help. Stop your crying.

Wrong. I answered a direct question. 5th time? LOL

You cannot even count. So not only are you a ***** you're also an idiot. Stop replying to me. You're pathetic.

You sad sack of lying shit.

No one asked you about me. You freely volunteered to whine. Here is the supposed question

"you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all."

Here is your "I have a sad" answer referencing me for no reason whatsover.

"Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes."

Get over it and please stop whining and talking about or to me.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

This was the post I was responding too. Now go and play in traffic you sensitive snowflake.

Nope. This was the post you were responding to.
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That was yesterday. And?

If it triggers you so much, I'll keep doing it now. What are you going to do about it?

Nothing.

And you should stop whining about me and mentioning me just because I gave you a sad.

Nope. Now I am going to stalk you and see how you like it. This will be fun. BTW - those in the truck are going to jail for life. You'll likely be joining them soon. It is a free messageboard if you don't want to read my posts making you look like an idiot then feel free to follow IM2 and put me on ignore. Otherwise reap the love. I am going to crush you and there is nothing you can do about. *****.

no point in getting yourself targeted by the mods dude. you have more class than him.

Thanks but that is not saying much. He is a *****.

 

[Fang]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

huh? Ahmaud wasn't breaking into their house, nor did they witness him doing anything to their property. Dude seriously, what's wrong with you?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "**** off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.

I am responding to Lone Leftist's question. To me all lives are equal, I don't play the race game. But you don't want to hear that. In actuality, I don't care what you want or think. You're an idiot and a coward, by your own self admission. Not sure why you keep responding to my posts? You lonely hiding under that bed?

Bullshit. You specifically said Black people have to get you on their side. Like I said then I will say now. **** you. I dont want or need your type of help. Dont be mad about that bro.

I did? LOL

I said "black people need me on their side"?

You certainly misconstrued that statement. But whatever. To my face you'd never say any of this. You're a typical coward, internet tough guy. You live your life and I'll live mine. You want to live like a victim the rest of your life then so be it. I don't care. After all, by your own operational definition, I am superior as I am "white"..ooohhhhh.

Idiot.

Yes you did say that and there is no way to misconstrue it. Dont be mad bro. Youre help is not needed or wanted. Black people would be up shit creek if they needed your help.

Stop replying to me. Cowards are a waste of my time. You see what you want to see.

I will when you stop trying to talk to me and mentioning me everytime you get a sad.

One time is every time?

You're a stupid idiot and a coward who is scared of a cold virus. I don't have time for cowards. Go cry over your reparations to someone who cares. I've experienced more racism than you and you rarely see me bring it up. You bring it up daily. *****.

This is like the 5th time you have whined to someone that I didnt want your help. Stop your crying.

Wrong. I answered a direct question. 5th time? LOL

You cannot even count. So not only are you a ***** you're also an idiot. Stop replying to me. You're pathetic.

You sad sack of lying shit.

No one asked you about me. You freely volunteered to whine. Here is the supposed question

"you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all."

Here is your "I have a sad" answer referencing me for no reason whatsover.

"Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes."

Get over it and please stop whining and talking about or to me.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

This was the post I was responding too. Now go and play in traffic you sensitive snowflake.

Nope. This was the post you were responding to.
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That was yesterday. And?

If it triggers you so much, I'll keep doing it now. What are you going to do about it?

Nothing.

And you should stop whining about me and mentioning me just because I gave you a sad.

Nope. Now I am going to stalk you and see how you like it. This will be fun. BTW - those in the truck are going to jail for life. You'll likely be joining them soon. It is a free messageboard if you don't want to read my posts making you look like an idiot then feel free to follow IM2 and put me on ignore. Otherwise reap the love. I am going to crush you and there is nothing you can do about. *****.

Its the internet dude. You cant stalk me.

No, it is a messageboard. Idiot. Never said I would do it over the Internet.

The messageboard is on the internet dummy.

That is the first accurate statement you have made since you have been posting here.

 

[jc456]

I don't know much about the Georgia case except for what I read here and I couldn't see the video, so watched it here. The two's story does not jive as they didn't attempt to call the police and they confronted the unarmed jogger with a shotgun. It does look like a racially motivated killing to me. Give them life in prison or the death sentence. It seems open and shut to me with the video.

The difficult part would be to show a racially motivated killing.

Now, you bring George Zimmerman into this and I think that makes it more confusing of a case if you do that. You have to remember that "super dumbass" Zimmerman was found not guilty and shot in self-defense. Okay, that case was crazy, but why bring that into the black jogger in Georgia case when it appears the father and son's testimonies are full of holes? We haven't even gotten to their arrest nor a criminal case yet.

It makes it sound that you think the father and son will get off scot free in this case. How do you know?

Bullshitte.....in these sorts of cases bias rules.....as in the facts are ignored, spun, censored or as in the case of the video on cbs ....the whole video is not shown....when you watch the whole video you see the black guy run over to the guy with the shotgun and attack him.....thus in defense of his life he shoots the black guy....not a complicated case...another case of simple self defense....yet the media once again is attempting to ignite racial tensions by not correctly reporting the story.

That is why there were no arrests in the case.....now we will see what the grand jury has to say.....if they follow the law and do not bow to political and media pressure the shooter will be exonerated.

well actually if you are watching the video, the struggle is over the gun and the gun goes off three times during the struggle, the white kid never aimed his gun at the jogger. Therefore, there isn't an intent to shoot.

We don't know what happened in front of the truck, but Arbery did try to go up a driveway.

sure I do, I have eyes and I can see the jogger grab the rifle, holding it on every firing. I even see him holding the rifle in his gut right before the third shot went off. you can't see that? you can't see the jogger throwing punches?

 

[bodecea]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

If that police report is true then it sounds like this exonerates the two men, They saw a man they witnessed breaking into their house they also saw the same man putting his hands down his pants as if he had a weapon Taunting them.. they went out to question him with a weapon because they thought he had a weapon and he violently attacks somebody with a shotgun? Wow

No one claims that anyone broke into their house. No one claims that he was putting his hands down his pants. You are lying. Purposely or just stupid?

 

[jc456]

huh? Ahmaud wasn't breaking into their house, nor did they witness him doing anything to their property. Dude seriously, what's wrong with you?

you have no idea what happened. just say that.

 

[Gantlemagne]

My initial gut feeling tells Me, AA was involved in some kind burglary, and maybe even was armed. He was caught, ditched his gun, might have even shot at the guys chasing after him, and then the result was that he was caught, tried to fight them off, and then got shot when he went for the other guys gun. He was a thief... maybe he didn't learn his lesson. And that's just what My gut is telling Me as an investigator. And you know how the Black community politicizes and mobilizes even when the evidence is clear that the Black criminal who is shot was threatening and firing with deadly force at Police Officers.

If he shot at the guys why didnt they say that in their report or even mentioned he in fact did have a gun?

DO you have access to the police report and interrogations and interviews?

 

[jc456]

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again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

The two men from the truck stated to police they were chasing the jogger, with guns.

Please try to be informed.

they said they had guns, they weren't following the dude pointing them at him. if they were doing that, why did they park soooooo far in front of him? just have some fundamental idea what you see. you can see the driver wasn't in the truck, he stopped far ahead of the jogger. The jogger had every opportunity to turn and run the other way. There was a witness behind him. I'm not going to change my opinion from what I see on the video, it says enough for me to see the dude had an out and didn't take it.

They absolutely were following him. The jogger had already turned and ran away TWICE.

You should do more than just watch the short video.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

that was the OP. it is supposed to be what I respond to by board rules. strange.