Verbal altercations between Z, Trump and some Vance

We should all remember that the Left hates our nation and the West in general.
As far as I know and as the world can see, it is MAGAs that side with Putin and his quest to reestablish the SSRs; it is MAGAs that love Kim Jong Un; and it is MAGAs that constantly trash the West and all the West has stood for. MAGAs hate the west and look to the East for their new axis.
 
Everything antagonizes Russia. It's who they are, all they know, the only way they know how to enrich themselves. They are 16th Century warlord Butchers in a 21st Century world.

Being a Cold War Vet, I'm no fan of the Russians. But, seriously would we have let the Warsaw Pact set up shop in Mexico or Canada? No.

I suggest reading the "History of the Peloponnesian War" by Thucydides, if you haven't already. It is a classic example of spheres of influence and how great powers get sucked into wars by the conflicts of smaller powers. When NATO started adding members years ago, I knew it would eventually lead to a negative Russian reaction.
 
I'd like to see a reporter ask Trump why the war can't stop with the invader just getting the fuck out of there. And then squeeze him for details. I'd like to see him try to answer that question.

I'd like to see YOU answer that stupid question. Let's squeeze you for details.
Just what is going to compel Putin to leave Ukraine without either Putin getting something big that he wants or an all out war?

But at least a reporter might ask Trump that question, because Trump gives them the opportunity. With Biden, they got no opportunity to ask anything that wasn't beneficial and flattering to Biden.

Where was your concern for the press all the years Biden was in there?
 
You trump cult members should be ashamed of your lame-duck so-called POTUS.
Embarrassing.

Trump would NEVER talk to Putin in his 'tough guy talk'.
Trump is terrified of Putin, and he showed it today.

You’re delusional. But that is the very essence of leftism.
 
Hilarious

Who has changed 90 years of history in America to stand against dictators.

And who just read their talking points.
Are you freaking kidding me here? All you idiots have are platitudes, and talking points. If it's not suitable for a bumper sticker, it's not in your arguments, you stupid idiot....

Zelensky comes in here, prepped like a leftist grifter, and instead of showing any semblance of statesmanship, he tries to get the American leftist press into the game. Screw him....

His people had better be telling him he needs to do whatever it takes to get this deal done, and end the war, or they won't have the US support, and Europe can do the job...It's their concern anyway....
 
It was just more vapid bullshit from an orange fuckup and his bearded hillbilly.

The office of the presidency looked small and weak.
I think the world learned once again, that Trump is the nicest guy in the world....UNTIL...you cross him. Then you'd better watch out. Zelensky gambled and lost big. I also think Vance's strong bearing problem cemented the 2028 nomination for him.
 
ARE WE DEFENDING THEM!!!

Do we have boots on the ground? Are American Troops fighting and dying on foreign soil?

What is it you fear so very much? Enquiring minds.......

Right, because we didn't promise to protect them.

Fear? Escalation of course. Biden allowed the Ukrainians to fire US missiles into Russia.
How would the US react to Mexicans launching Russian missiles into Dallas and Houston?

Not only that, but the US is broke. Why are we pouring billions into the Ukrainian sinkhole?
 
Trump is officially a Russian asset now and MAGAs are against all the West has stood for and what so many Americans have died for.
2022 called, they want their unhinged warmonger kook blabbering points back.

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I'm pretty sure that Z knows he fucked up, now he has to figure out how
to mend that fence.
He demanded more money and said he wasn't interested in a cease fire. That's what pushed Trump and Vance over the edge. When Zman said that he wanted money and wasn't interested in any cease fire, he pushed the wrong button.
 
Now, you are on board with the Trump plan?
I'm never on board with anything the orange bag O' shit wants. He's a weak, incompetent leader. But we are the world's superpower. With that comes responsibility to help out other nations in case of invasion. We should have walked after the first year and let the EU take over the responsibility of helping Ukraine.
 
He never could win the war and he knew it....Everyone knew it.
The U.S. "presence" in Ukraine started covertly under Obama and became more and more overt over time until the shit hit the fan under Obama's puppet and extention of himself, Biden. Ukraine is chock full of resources and the military industrial people in the U.S. knew Russia had to be pushed back in order for them to someday take control of it. Russia invaded when they saw how Ukraine was being slowly armed against them. They were trying to prevent their eventual removal from the world stage which would be inevitable if Zelensky succeeeded in doing Obama/Biden's dirty work according to plan. The media is still misrepresenting what really happened there, making the Biden Administration into a hero and savior in the news. And obviously the internet is still full of brainwashed trolls who still believe that bullshit. Nothing could be so disgustingly far from the truth, and it was Obama and Biden who brought this atrocity on Uklraine in the first place. In the end Ukraine will be screwed whether Russia wins or not, Obama and Biden are 100% guilty of what has happened there.
 
When Russia applies a Sphere of Influence it's far more of a case of Domination than anything the US applies.

If we went by Russian rules we would have invaded Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and other countries the second they went socialist.

We almost went to war with the Soviet Union over missiles in Cuba, while we had nukes in Turkey pointed at Moscow.
Reagan invaded Grenada because the communist gov't was allied with the Soviets. We also fought dirty wars in Central America to keep the Soviets out.
 
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