Veil of secrecy prevents CSIS employees from speaking out, say ex-officers

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CSIS, the RCMP and their surrogate covert cowards at the OPP. No wonder our allies don't trust us...

I remind you to not shed a tear when NAFTA is renegotiated and impacts Canada negatively. We have Canadian police who enjoy taking your jobs while stealing Canadian liberty in the process.

Veil of secrecy prevents CSIS employees from speaking out, say ex-officers as calls for investigation mount

"This organization needs to work behind the veil of secrecy, which prevents employees from seeking support outside the organization … preventing them to go to meet legal representation," Juneau-Katsuya said. "Since they don't have any union or association that is worth mentioning, they are not defended."

In his statement, CSIS director Vigneault said the agency does not tolerate harassment, discrimination or bullying under any circumstances and that employees are always encouraged to report "any real, potential or perceived incidents of harassment, without fear of reprisal, to their supervisor or senior management."

'It's really Goliath versus David'
Phillips said his clients tried that route, to no avail.

"The results were scandalous in terms of not addressing the issues," he said.

For now, he said, he isn't ruling out the possibility that others may join the claim, saying whether that happens will likely depend on how CSIS responds to the current suit.

The National Council of Canadian Muslims reacted to news of the lawsuit Friday, with executive director Ihsaan Gardee saying in a statement that the allegations raise serious questions about whether Canadians can trust CSIS to fulfil its mandate without discrimination or bias.

"These allegations are of particular concern in light of the recent debate on the intrusive security powers given to CSIS under new national security legislation. It is unacceptable for discriminatory attitudes to be left unchecked in any context, but especially in the context of intelligence gathering when Canadian Muslims already face disproportionate scrutiny," Gardee said.

Meanwhile, said Lavigne, the nature of the organization, being a secretive one, means accountability isn't easily achieved.

"They hide behind secrecy, and then of course ministers and governments don't want this to become public, so they're pressured to resolve this. We pay millions of dollars out with confidentiality and Canadians don't hear anything about it," he said.

Juneau-Katsuya agrees.

"It's really Goliath versus David," he said. "And in this particular situation, David will lose."
 
Anti-Muslim and racist? What Muslims are doing in the Canadian Security Forces anyway? They could go back to where they came from, no? That's the problem with these fucks. They do not adapt to the culture to a country what gives them new home but want to change culture to their own. Tell them to GTFO.
 
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Anti-Muslim and racist? What Muslims are doing in the Canadian Security Forces anyway? They could go back to where they came from, no? That's the problem with these fucks. They do not adapt to the culture to a country what gives them new home but want to change culture to their own. Tell them to GTFO.

Why don't you take your own advice.

How is the West going to prevent future attacks and activities, if they don't have credible agents to work undercover?
 
Anti-Muslim and racist? What Muslims are doing in the Canadian Security Forces anyway? They could go back to where they came from, no? That's the problem with these fucks. They do not adapt to the culture to a country what gives them new home but want to change culture to their own. Tell them to GTFO.

Why don't you take your own advice.

How is the West going to prevent future attacks and activities, if they don't have credible agents to work undercover?

dumbcon is a white nationalist, so don't expect a rational response from him
 
Anti-Muslim and racist? What Muslims are doing in the Canadian Security Forces anyway? They could go back to where they came from, no? That's the problem with these fucks. They do not adapt to the culture to a country what gives them new home but want to change culture to their own. Tell them to GTFO.

Why don't you take your own advice.

How is the West going to prevent future attacks and activities, if they don't have credible agents to work undercover?

dumbcon is a white nationalist, so don't expect a rational response from him
Toto is expressing a bankers' view on everything. How can they fuck over people, right Toto?
 
Anti-Muslim and racist? What Muslims are doing in the Canadian Security Forces anyway? They could go back to where they came from, no? That's the problem with these fucks. They do not adapt to the culture to a country what gives them new home but want to change culture to their own. Tell them to GTFO.

Why don't you take your own advice.

How is the West going to prevent future attacks and activities, if they don't have credible agents to work undercover?
You can wallow in your misery then, inundated with scum on your once pristine land.
 
Anti-Muslim and racist? What Muslims are doing in the Canadian Security Forces anyway? They could go back to where they came from, no? That's the problem with these fucks. They do not adapt to the culture to a country what gives them new home but want to change culture to their own. Tell them to GTFO.

Why don't you take your own advice.

How is the West going to prevent future attacks and activities, if they don't have credible agents to work undercover?

dumbcon is a white nationalist, so don't expect a rational response from him
Toto is expressing a bankers' view on everything. How can they fuck over people, right Toto?

I'm not a banker, dumbcon.

Of course, your #altfacts never stopped you types from spreading your ignorance all over the Internet!

lol
 
Anti-Muslim and racist? What Muslims are doing in the Canadian Security Forces anyway? They could go back to where they came from, no? That's the problem with these fucks. They do not adapt to the culture to a country what gives them new home but want to change culture to their own. Tell them to GTFO.

Why don't you take your own advice.

How is the West going to prevent future attacks and activities, if they don't have credible agents to work undercover?

dumbcon is a white nationalist, so don't expect a rational response from him
Toto is expressing a bankers' view on everything. How can they fuck over people, right Toto?

I'm not a banker, dumbcon.

Of course, your #altfacts never stopped you types from spreading your ignorance all over the Internet!

lol
Toto, nothing is wrong to be an honest banker, the key word is "honest." :badgrin:
 

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