toobfreak
Tungsten/Glass Member
Also, I ain't Chineese. I don't eat bats, rats doge or cats. I'll do without the diseases.
What? Are you some sort of asianophobe or caninophobe? Dive in there and get that good protein! Bow WOW!
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Also, I ain't Chineese. I don't eat bats, rats doge or cats. I'll do without the diseases.
The economic problems have been years in the making. I've been on here noting it was coming and why.
They looked pretty OK in 2019. They mostly started in 2009 with Obama 1.0, and now look to be hitting the fan with Obama 2.0.
Have you LOOKED at the typical American??? You're not making a good case for the sickly meat eating nuts.
When any of you critics are as fit as this vegan, maybe you'll have something to offer.
I'll take you at your word. But tell me, is he malnourished? I'm not malnourished.I am. And I am 40+ years older than him.
It’s ok for adults to be vegan but I think it is difficult to do it with young children and make sure they are getting enough the right nutrition. Equally so for people who try to force it on cats and dogs. That said, the people in the OP are clearly fruitcakes and child abusers, but there are people like that in all walks of life.Lol, exactly!
Lots of outdated or downright misguided ideas on this thread.
It's not hard at all to get enough protein. In fact, contrary to what most people assume, most Americans meet or exceed their protein needs, according to studies. Especially men. And getting too much animal protein is linked to a higher risk of cancer.
Do you guys know what most American AREN'T getting enough of, which is why so many people are horribly unhealthy? Fiber.
As for vegans, you don't have to worry, we get our protein from where it actually comes from... (again, as opposed to filtered through a dead body.)
It was clearly abuse.Sorry M, but facts are facts. Mankind developed for millions of years as an herbivore. I myself was a vegetarian for about 20 years and an still alive and I assure you my brain is better than most. These kids were STARVED, they didn't die from eating fruit.
That's complete bullshit.
B12 is an essential nutrient. There is no B12 in berries, fruits, leaves etc. There are no vegetables that contain B12.
A B12 deficiency causes many health problems, including permanent brain damage.
What are the symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency?
Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause physical, neurological and psychological symptoms. The symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency can develop slowly and can get worse over time. Some people may have no symptoms despite having a low level of vitamin B12 in their bodies. People with vitamin B12 deficiency can have neurological symptoms and/or damage without anemia (lack of red blood cells).
General physical symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency can include:
Neurological symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency can include:
- Feeling very tired or weak.
- Experiencing nausea, vomiting or diarrhea.
- Not feeling as hungry as usual.
- Weight loss.
- Having a sore mouth or tongue.
- Having yellowish skin.
Psychological symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency can include:
- Numbness or tingling in your hands and feet.
- Vision problems.
- Having a hard time remembering things or getting confused easily.
- Having a difficult time walking or speaking like you usually do.
- If neurological problems develop from vitamin B12 deficiency, they may not be reversible.
- Feeling depressed.
- Feeling irritable.
- Experiencing a change in the way you feel and behave.
Vitamin B12 Deficiency: Symptoms, Causes & Treatment
Vitamin B12 deficiency is a lack of vitamin B12 in your blood. It happens if you are not eating enough vitamin B12 or if your body is not absorbing it properly.my.clevelandclinic.org
This is what happened to this one time Vegan:
After Being Vegan for 3 Years, I Went Back to Meat. And This Happened…
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From an actual vegan,
Feeling Sick After Going Vegan: Is The Diet To Blame?
There have been others who had to drop Veganism to improve their health and appearance.
The newspaper made the issue about veganism. It is NOT. She fed them raw fruit and vegetables. That's NOT "veganism." Posters here are trying to make it about vegans to justify their own biases and guilt.That vegan mother who killed her baby deserves life in jail.
Period.
You believe that because you've been told that. Digesting dead animals is MUCH more difficult that vegetable sources. Elderly people who can't afford to tax their energy levels are given Ensure, NOT A STEAKIt was clearly abuse.
But disagree on this, mankind developed as an omnivore, we lack the GI tract to efficient herbivores.
I'll take you at your word. But tell me, is he malnourished? I'm not malnourished.
I don't understand why people care what others do. I'm not vegan but if others want to be, that affects me in absolutely no way. I have friends that are vegan and somehow we get along just fine. We even go out to dinner together. Not once have I felt this need to condemn their choice or really, even to question them over it.
You believe that because you've been told that. Digesting dead animals is MUCH more difficult that vegetable sources. Elderly people who can't afford to tax their energy levels are given Ensure, NOT A STEAK
Not correct:B12 is not an animal product, it's produced by bacteria, found in soil and water.
You don't have to eat a dead animal to get B12. And besides, what you probably aren't even aware of is that these days because of poor soil, livestock are injected with B12, so THEY are being supplemented.
So if you get it through eating animals, you are getting it second-hand, filtered through the dead body of an abused, exploited, tortured and often sick innocent being.
We simply skip the middle-man, and get B12 in an isolated form, not filtered through a dead body.
Very good point. I understand why it bothers people, though. When a vegan says something like "exploiting or unnecessarily harming animals is wrong," it inevitably puts people on the defensive, and no one likes to think they are doing something wrong.
But here's the thing. Many people are sincerely unaware of what they're paying for, so I for one am GLAD that someone told me, or else I would still be one of the billions of people causing unnecessary harm and suffering to animals, simply because we've been conditioned to think that it's acceptable.