VA governor to remove Robert E. Lee statue in Richmond

[Dick Foster]

Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy.
There is no better time to remove this racist symbol than now.

Virginia governor to announce removal of Lee statue

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is expected to announce plans Thursday to remove one of the country’s most iconic monuments to the Confederacy, a statue of Gen.

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I think they should remove the fucking governor instead of part of Virginia history. I was born in Va BTW so yes I do indeed give a shit.

 

[Dick Foster]

Democrats hiding their history? Lee was a good man.. wasn’t a democrat was just an American fighting for the south. Actually had a all black school in his house.

We can learn all about him in a history book or a museum if its important.

Fat chance of that after the bastards have burned all the books. 1984 anyone?

 

[WEATHER53]

Because all those other statue removals quelled the violence so effectively.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Robert E. Lee was not a traitor to the nation.

Both existing law and the Constitution itself say you're dead fucking wrong. Lee was a traitor, even if he was never tried for Treason.

Read and learn, fool;

18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

US Constitution - Article III, § 3, Cls 1:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

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https://uscode.house.gov/statutes/pl/85/425.pdfU.S.

Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved May 23, 1958.

U.S. Statutes at Large Volume 72, Part 1, Page 133-134.
The Administration shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such person under the laws in effect on December 31, 1957, as if his service in such forces had been service in the military or naval forces of the United States.

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*****SMILE*****

None of that trash you have proudly posted, even IF it is actual law properly codified in the US Code which I haven't located, does not absolve Robert E. Lee or any other rebellious Bastard of the time of committing TREASON against the United States. Lee and every former American who took up arms against the United States will forever be TRAITORS for violating the Constitution and the Law of the Land! NOTHING AT ALL changes that regardless how fucking ignorant you may be!

P.S. Asswipe, Public Laws which are passed get codified and don't hang around in PDF form you bloody fool. That might explain why you posted a link to only one page of a PDF. Tacky dodge there lad! Oh, and fuck the traitors of the Confederacy!

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Your response is nothing more the the uncivilized rantings of a traitor whose alliance is only with those who desire to riot, loot, burn, and murder. While all the time pitifully attempting to justify the devastation and butchery you leave behind all in the name of what you call social justice. Your actions, and those you support, speak louder than mere words as you sabotage the very meaning of the words you elect to utilize in your tirade of hypocritical outrage.

*****SMILE*****

Your response is nothing more the the uncivilized rantings of a traitor whose alliance is only with those who desire to riot, loot, burn, and murder. While all the time pitifully attempting to justify the devastation and butchery you leave behind all in the name of what you call social justice. Your actions, and those you support, speak louder than mere words as you sabotage the very meaning of the words you elect to utilize in your tirade of hypocritical outrage.

That rant is quite distant from YOUR INITIAL CLAIM as well as with your circular foolery ad nauseam from the start!

Robert E. Lee and every other Confederate who took up arms against the United States were all TRAITORS you fucking IDIOT. The proof again is etched in Law and the Constitution;

18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

US Constitution - Article III, § 3, Cls 1:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Truth hurts doesn't it you damn fool! You can't will the truth to be a lie can you Damaged Sparrow?

The United States did accept General Lee's surrender and offered terms that were accepted by both sides of the conflict.

It's you who wishes to rewrite history as your abusive attitude about the subject and lack of knowledge of events is displayed for all to see.

Let me guess... A inner city public school education with about one paragraph on the subject of the Civil War, if that, to cover it. You only use the Constitution to justify your cause when it suits you with no knowledge of the terms offered to the Confederacy for their surrender. While in reality you'd just as soon burn the Constitution like the history you ignore.

*****SMILE*****

 

[WEATHER53]

Robert E. Lee was not a traitor to the nation.

Both existing law and the Constitution itself say you're dead fucking wrong. Lee was a traitor, even if he was never tried for Treason.

Read and learn, fool;

18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

US Constitution - Article III, § 3, Cls 1:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

View attachment 345504

https://uscode.house.gov/statutes/pl/85/425.pdfU.S.

Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved May 23, 1958.

U.S. Statutes at Large Volume 72, Part 1, Page 133-134.
The Administration shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such person under the laws in effect on December 31, 1957, as if his service in such forces had been service in the military or naval forces of the United States.

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*****SMILE*****

None of that trash you have proudly posted, even IF it is actual law properly codified in the US Code which I haven't located, does not absolve Robert E. Lee or any other rebellious Bastard of the time of committing TREASON against the United States. Lee and every former American who took up arms against the United States will forever be TRAITORS for violating the Constitution and the Law of the Land! NOTHING AT ALL changes that regardless how fucking ignorant you may be!

P.S. Asswipe, Public Laws which are passed get codified and don't hang around in PDF form you bloody fool. That might explain why you posted a link to only one page of a PDF. Tacky dodge there lad! Oh, and fuck the traitors of the Confederacy!

View attachment 345590

Your response is nothing more the the uncivilized rantings of a traitor whose alliance is only with those who desire to riot, loot, burn, and murder. While all the time pitifully attempting to justify the devastation and butchery you leave behind all in the name of what you call social justice. Your actions, and those you support, speak louder than mere words as you sabotage the very meaning of the words you elect to utilize in your tirade of hypocritical outrage.

*****SMILE*****

Your response is nothing more the the uncivilized rantings of a traitor whose alliance is only with those who desire to riot, loot, burn, and murder. While all the time pitifully attempting to justify the devastation and butchery you leave behind all in the name of what you call social justice. Your actions, and those you support, speak louder than mere words as you sabotage the very meaning of the words you elect to utilize in your tirade of hypocritical outrage.

That rant is quite distant from YOUR INITIAL CLAIM as well as with your circular foolery ad nauseam from the start!

Robert E. Lee and every other Confederate who took up arms against the United States were all TRAITORS you fucking IDIOT. The proof again is etched in Law and the Constitution;

18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

US Constitution - Article III, § 3, Cls 1:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Truth hurts doesn't it you damn fool! You can't will the truth to be a lie can you Damaged Sparrow?

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The United States did accept General Lee's surrender and offered terms that were accepted by both sides of the conflict.

It's you who wishes to rewrite history as your abusive attitude about the subject and lack of knowledge of events is displayed for all to see.

Let me guess... A inner city public school education with about one paragraph on the subject of the Civil War, if that, to cover it. You only use the Constitution to justify your cause when it suits you with no knowledge of the terms offered to the Confederacy for their surrender. While in reality you'd just as soon burn the Constitution like the history you ignore.

*****SMILE*****

Throw down the sword...the fight is done and over...neither lost neither won...to cast away the fury of the battle...
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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Excuse me but you're the one holding on to your hate

There was no hae. Just criticism. You sound like a simpleton. And clearly your affinity for the traitor slaver is causing the embarrassing overreaction by you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The United States did accept General Lee's surrender and offered terms that were accepted by both sides of the conflict

Yes, because they had to kill a lot of slaver traitors to get it. And they had to sacrifice a lot of United States lives to kill those slaver traitors. They didn't flip a coin. They bought that surrender at the cost of the lives of United States soldiers.

 

[martybegan]

His orders to his men to go home and accept the results of the war led to other generals saying the same thing, and prevented outright gurilla warfare in the south during early reconstruction.

And his orders to kill US soldiers to preserve slavery resulted in US soldiers being killed to preserve slavery.

And thank you for the perfect demonstration of why this should be in a book and not a statue in the public space.

Soldiers were killed on both sides, it was a war.

The idea was to forgive the insurrection upon surrender, and re-unite the country.

We are now re-negging on that for SJW soy types like you to feel empowered.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Soldiers were killed on both sides, it was a war.

Wow that's deep. You're a deep thinker.

Yes, and one side was fighting for the right to own human beings. And one side was fighting to end that.

Lee made his choice. Now he can be a pariah and our children can be reminded by history books that our country is better today in spite of slaver traitors like Robert E. Lee, not because of them.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Excuse me but you're the one holding on to your hate

There was no hae. Just criticism. You sound like a simpleton. And clearly your affinity for the traitor slaver is causing the embarrassing overreaction by you.

You're the simpleton with your affinity to some weak belief that social justice will be served by ignoring the agreements that were made when terms for the Confederacies surrender were agreed upon as you hold on to the nearly two hundred year old grudge that continues to consume your soul.

*****SMILE*****

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Robert E. Lee was not a traitor to the nation.

Both existing law and the Constitution itself say you're dead fucking wrong. Lee was a traitor, even if he was never tried for Treason.

Read and learn, fool;

18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

US Constitution - Article III, § 3, Cls 1:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

View attachment 345504

https://uscode.house.gov/statutes/pl/85/425.pdfU.S.

Public Law 85-425: Sec. 410 Approved May 23, 1958.

U.S. Statutes at Large Volume 72, Part 1, Page 133-134.
The Administration shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such person under the laws in effect on December 31, 1957, as if his service in such forces had been service in the military or naval forces of the United States.

https://uscode.house.gov/statutes/pl/85/425.pdf

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*****SMILE*****

None of that trash you have proudly posted, even IF it is actual law properly codified in the US Code which I haven't located, does not absolve Robert E. Lee or any other rebellious Bastard of the time of committing TREASON against the United States. Lee and every former American who took up arms against the United States will forever be TRAITORS for violating the Constitution and the Law of the Land! NOTHING AT ALL changes that regardless how fucking ignorant you may be!

P.S. Asswipe, Public Laws which are passed get codified and don't hang around in PDF form you bloody fool. That might explain why you posted a link to only one page of a PDF. Tacky dodge there lad! Oh, and fuck the traitors of the Confederacy!

View attachment 345590

Your response is nothing more the the uncivilized rantings of a traitor whose alliance is only with those who desire to riot, loot, burn, and murder. While all the time pitifully attempting to justify the devastation and butchery you leave behind all in the name of what you call social justice. Your actions, and those you support, speak louder than mere words as you sabotage the very meaning of the words you elect to utilize in your tirade of hypocritical outrage.

*****SMILE*****

Your response is nothing more the the uncivilized rantings of a traitor whose alliance is only with those who desire to riot, loot, burn, and murder. While all the time pitifully attempting to justify the devastation and butchery you leave behind all in the name of what you call social justice. Your actions, and those you support, speak louder than mere words as you sabotage the very meaning of the words you elect to utilize in your tirade of hypocritical outrage.

That rant is quite distant from YOUR INITIAL CLAIM as well as with your circular foolery ad nauseam from the start!

Robert E. Lee and every other Confederate who took up arms against the United States were all TRAITORS you fucking IDIOT. The proof again is etched in Law and the Constitution;

18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

US Constitution - Article III, § 3, Cls 1:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Truth hurts doesn't it you damn fool! You can't will the truth to be a lie can you Damaged Sparrow?

The US attacked them as they aspired for independence. You’re another brainwashed democrat dupe.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Excuse me but you're the one holding on to your hate

There was no hae. Just criticism. You sound like a simpleton. And clearly your affinity for the traitor slaver is causing the embarrassing overreaction by you.

View attachment 345655

You're the simpleton with your affinity to some weak belief that social justice will be served by ignoring the agreements that were made when terms for the Confederacies surrender were agreed upon as you hold on to the nearly two hundred year old grudge that continues to consume your soul.

*****SMILE*****

And you're the lying little puke who is trying to pretend that your affinity for racist traitor slavers is out of respect for an agreement signed 150 years ago that obviously doesn't say what you think it says, anyway. Not sure who you think you are fooling. Yourself, maybe?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The US attacked them as they aspired for independence.

And rightfully so. Most people understand slavery is wrong. We know which uniform you would have been wearing.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

The United States did accept General Lee's surrender and offered terms that were accepted by both sides of the conflict

Yes, because they had to kill a lot of slaver traitors to get it. And they had to sacrifice a lot of United States lives to kill those slaver traitors. They didn't flip a coin. They bought that surrender at the cost of the lives of United States soldiers.

So you wish to tear up the surrender agreements and terms?

Does that mean we can invade Japan and Germany and take over again since you think one agreement of terms is worthless then aren't all surrender agreements worthless?

Let's put them all to the sword!

*****SMILE*****

 

[martybegan]

Soldiers were killed on both sides, it was a war.

Wow that's deep. You're a deep thinker.

Yes, and one side was fighting for the right to own human beings. And one side was fighting to end that.

Lee made his choice. Now he can be a pariah and our children can be reminded by history books that our country is better today in spite of slaver traitors like Robert E. Lee, not because of them.

one cause among many, and the world was still in the process of banning slavery in general, hell africans were keeping slaves well after the confederates were forced to give it up.

Slavery was only the poison pill in the differences between the sections of the country.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Excuse me but you're the one holding on to your hate

There was no hae. Just criticism. You sound like a simpleton. And clearly your affinity for the traitor slaver is causing the embarrassing overreaction by you.

View attachment 345655

You're the simpleton with your affinity to some weak belief that social justice will be served by ignoring the agreements that were made when terms for the Confederacies surrender were agreed upon as you hold on to the nearly two hundred year old grudge that continues to consume your soul.

*****SMILE*****

And you're the lying little puke who is trying to pretend that your affinity for racist traitor slavers is out of respect for an agreement signed 150 years ago that obviously doesn't say what you think it says, anyway. Not sure who you think you are fooling. Yourself, maybe?

Which lies would those be?

I have every respect for those agreements. If you don't all like the agreements that's your problem. Become a Congressman and see if you can get them rescinded.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So you wish to tear up the surrender agreements and terms?

No. I know you have already become quite attached to this silly red herring, but whatever fantasy you have about these agreements is not accurate. And, as i pointed out, your whining is a red herring anyway. These agreements have nothing to do with your obvious affinity for racist slavers. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

So you wish to tear up the surrender agreements and terms?

No. I know you have already become quite attached to this silly red herring, but whatever fantasy you have about these agreements is not accurate. And, as i pointed out, your whining is a red herring anyway. These agreements have nothing to do with your obvious affinity for racist slavers. You're not fooling anyone.

I think it's the other way around because you've shown me nothing to contradict what I've posted other than your usual abuse and whimpering.

Don't you have some riot to attend so you can go loot, burn, and murder?

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The US attacked them as they aspired for independence.

And rightfully so. Most people understand slavery is wrong. We know which uniform you would have been wearing.

It would depend upon my home state. You would have fought for Africa-America. You still partake of that civil war.

 

[OldLady]

Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union. The Confederates lost. Lincoln wanted to bring the south back into the fold, not punish them any further. That's why he didn't go the treason route. The south had been punished enough and the country had been torn apart long enough. Yeah, it was a rebellion. They lost. We were rebels less than a hundred years before that and we won. Only difference. The victor writes history.

I'm not a southerner, but if I were, I'd be thinking about my gr-greats who fought and died or lost everything in that war. To them, Lee was a hero. 95% of the people in the south never owned a slave. They weren't fighting to keep men enslaved, they were fighting to protect their homes and their families, their communities. The man who led the Confederate forces shouldn't have his statue torn down just because he was a slave owner, ferchrissakes. As some others have pointed out, we'll have to tear down the Jefferson Memorial, too, and George on his horse in Washington Circle. The Brits saw him and us as traitors one and all. It's all a matter of which angle you are viewing it from.

The ONLY reason to take down Lee's statue now is if the people of Virginia no longer want him up there. That is up to them.