Uvalde shooter legally bought his guns............

[Dagosa]

Gun control does not work.

Solution

Repeal all gun laws and make attempts at getting gun control a capital offense, punishable by prolonged crucifixion.

Problem solved.

Congrats. You’ve just shown your indirect support of more school killings.

 

[Dagosa]

You know, it would really help your points if you actually read what was going on and knew the facts (if necessary, you can read the links people put in their posts) before spewing bullshit. NO, he didn't have them delivered, he bought them at a gun shop. I posted the link in my OP if you had bothered to read. Here is a bit from the link in my OP, and yes, they were bought at the shop, not delivered.

The gunman in the deadliest school shooting in Texas history bought two AR-style rifles legally just after his 18th birthday — days before his assault on Robb Elementary School in Uvalde.

UPDATED: MAY 25, 2022
He legally purchased two AR platform rifles from a federally licensed gun store on two days: May 17 — just a day after his birthday — and May 20, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said, according to a briefing that state Sen. John Whitmire, chair of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee, received from state authorities late Tuesday. The gunman bought 375 rounds of 5.56-caliber ammunition on May 18.

And, interestingly enough, the gunmaker who made the guns he purchased IS being investigated. Seems that Daniel Defense has a history of marketing guns to young people...............

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/04/uvalde-shooting-lawsuits-daniel-defense-marketing/

Additionally, the gun store where he bought the guns has a history of selling ammo to smugglers and the cartels...........

Uvalde gun store had a history of selling ammunition to smugglers

District 19 Texas State Senator, Roland Gutierrez told New York Times, that law enforcement informed him Oasis Outback is where the Uvalde killer bought the guns that would kill 19 4th graders and two teachers.

www.kxxv.com

UVALDE, Texas — District 19 Texas State Senator, Roland Gutierrez, told the New York Times, that law enforcement informed him Oasis Outback is where the Uvalde killer bought the guns that would kill 19 4th graders and two teachers.

The store has had a history of selling ammunition to smugglers according to a 2011 press release from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Fred Farhat plead guilty to helping smuggle 10,000 rounds of .223 and 5.56 x 45 mm ammunition into Mexico.

So yeah, he did buy the guns at a gun store, and now both the gun maker and the gun store owners are being investigated. Wanna change your claim that the guns were delivered to him? Because they weren't, they were bought at a gun shop LEGALLY after he'd turned 18, and they were bought on credit. Try again, but this time, try to get the facts correct before you make yourself look like an idiot again.

This is Texas which helps supply firearms and ammo to drive up the crime in Mexico……and Canada by way of northern states. It’s seems, there is no federal law on the books keeping gun dealers from doin* a lot of things, just like there is no federal law requiring a private sale buyer having a BC. When it comes to guns, we’ll sell them to any breathing humanoid.

 

[ABikerSailor]

This is Texas which helps supply firearms and ammo to drive up the crime in Mexico……and Canada by way of northern states. It’s seems, there is no federal law on the books keeping gun dealers from doin* a lot of things, just like there is no federal law requiring a private sale buyer having a BC. When it comes to guns, we’ll sell them to any breathing humanoid.

You're right, they do supply firearms and ammo to help drive up the crime..........................

Uvalde gun store had a history of selling ammunition to smugglers

District 19 Texas State Senator, Roland Gutierrez told New York Times, that law enforcement informed him Oasis Outback is where the Uvalde killer bought the guns that would kill 19 4th graders and two teachers.

www.kxxv.com

The store has had a history of selling ammunition to smugglers according to a 2011 press release from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Fred Farhat plead guilty to helping smuggle 10,000 rounds of .223 and 5.56 x 45 mm ammunition into Mexico.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Dunno what to think about this. Apparently the shooter at the Uvalde school bought his guns legally, and waited until just a day or two after his 18th birthday so he could legally buy the weapons and the ammo. Do we need to change the gun laws?

I have been assured by all the staunch 2A defenders that laws don't work. Evildoers are going to break laws no matter what. When laws fail the only thing left is to arm all Americans and let them dish out their own "justice".

Do we need to take a closer look at who buys the guns? Maybe, but that would also put a serious burden on people who aren't bat shit crazy who want to buy guns by making them wait and pass checks.

Another idea that keeps getting shot down is the idea that gun purchasers (even the good guys) should pay a surcharge to help improve mental healthcare in the US. The reason they don't like that is because it requires them to think about their hobby in a broader format than just themselves and it would then remove the ability to scapegoat the "mentally ill" whenever there's another mass shooting so that no one thinks about the GUNS.

I personally think we are where we are supposed to be. We are a nation that values this right above all others and we value the interpretation that provides the most guns to the most people. The side-effect is that we have more gun homicides and more mass shootings of innocents than any other nation in a similar economic bracket. We are "OK" with a couple dozen little kids getting killed every few years. There's literally nothing we can do to stop it.

It IS what America is. It is how we define ourselves. WE ARE THE GUN.

 

[Coyote]

not once in the military

https://www.army.mil/article/245349/underage_drinking_poses_heightened_risk_for_community

Soldiers charged with underage drinking under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or UCMJ, can face punishment depending on the crime’s severity or frequency. In the most severe cases that could mean being court-martialed or removed from the Army.

 

[Dagosa]

You're right, they do supply firearms and ammo to help drive up the crime..........................

Uvalde gun store had a history of selling ammunition to smugglers

District 19 Texas State Senator, Roland Gutierrez told New York Times, that law enforcement informed him Oasis Outback is where the Uvalde killer bought the guns that would kill 19 4th graders and two teachers.

www.kxxv.com

The store has had a history of selling ammunition to smugglers according to a 2011 press release from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Fred Farhat plead guilty to helping smuggle 10,000 rounds of .223 and 5.56 x 45 mm ammunition into Mexico.

Yup, and it goes deeper.
The AFT is understaffed and can’t get a director that doesn‘t pass the muster of the gun groups they are suppose to monitor. This is a long term problem and the money from the NRA is toxic….because gun makers in other countries filter sums of money through the PAC of the NRA.

 

[Dagosa]

https://www.army.mil/article/245349/underage_drinking_poses_heightened_risk_for_community

Soldiers charged with underage drinking under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or UCMJ, can face punishment depending on the crime’s severity or frequency. In the most severe cases that could mean being court-martialed or removed from the Army.

Underaged soldiers carry and use firearms only under the strictest supervision.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Underaged soldiers carry and use firearms only under the strictest supervision.

LOL ever been on the military? one sgt for 12 soldiers

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yet we deny them the right to smoke and drink as well.

smoking and drinking are not a right dumbass.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The question to ask is where he got 3000 dollars for the rifles?

More like 4000.00 and he paid cash.

 

[Failzero]

smoking and drinking are not a right dumbass.

Just as Abortion is not also

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dunno, because apparently he bought them on credit, which was offered by the gun store where he bought the guns. And, you know as well as I do that credit companies like to give lots of credit to kids who are just starting out.

The gunmaker whose rifle was used in Uvalde shooting reportedly runs direct-to-consumer ads aimed at younger buyers

The Georgia gunmaker Daniel Defense offers buy now, pay later, so the cost of buying its guns can be spread over several payment periods.

www.businessinsider.com

The gunmaker that made the rifle used in the Texas elementary-school shooting uses online direct-to-consumer advertising tactics to attract young buyers, according to The New York Times.

Daniel Defense also runs ads modeled after the popular video game "Call of Duty,"most likely also aimed to appeal to a younger audience, per the Times. The Uvalde shooter is said to have bought the rifle used in the attack days after his 18th birthday.

The Times reported how Daniel Defense also runs a buy-now, pay-later payment plan, which is advertised on the home page of its website.

The financing program allows buyers to spread out the cost of an assault-style rifle, some models of which retail for more than $1,800, over numerous pay periods in "three easy steps."


The plan is in partnership with Credova, a buy-now, pay-later company, according to Daniel Defense's website.

The Uvalde shooter reportedly bought a military-style rifle online from Daniel Defense a week before the massacre which left 19 children and two adults dead on May 24.


Maybe make it harder to buy guns on credit? Dunno what the solution is here. And, people who do mass shootings aren't expecting to come out of it alive, so buying weapons on credit really isn't a concern, as they expect to die and don't need to worry about paying for them.

He didn't use credit he paid cash unless you have information that says otherwise? And thanks for validating that back ground checks don't work.

 

[Coyote]

smoking and drinking are not a right dumbass.

Now you are moving the goalposts a bit.

Minors do not have the same rights as adults.

 

[Dagosa]

LOL ever been on the military? one sgt for 12 soldiers

Ha ha…..Silly response. You‘re pretending everyone is 18 and under and doesn’t have a chain of command ? Hilarious. Yes…..I was in for ten years. You don’t carry a loaded weapon unless you’re under orders to do so.

You talk like 18 year olds can carry loaded weapons anywhere they want. Guess maybe you were in the military choir ? . Personal off duty must be 21 years plus, permitted in the domain they serve and only at the discretion of base commander when on base. You talk like 18 year olds are not on a tight leash.

 

[eagle1462010]

https://www.army.mil/article/245349/underage_drinking_poses_heightened_risk_for_community

Soldiers charged with underage drinking under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or UCMJ, can face punishment depending on the crime’s severity or frequency. In the most severe cases that could mean being court-martialed or removed from the Army.

They dont enforce it. Lol

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Now you are moving the goalposts a bit.

Minors do not have the same rights as adults.

Smoking and drinking isn't a right it's a privilege not the license attached to them. You're right minors don't have the same rights adults have. So you're saying 20 year olds are minors? 18-21 should not have adult rights if you take the right to self-defense away.

 

[Pellinore]

Japan Eschewed invading The West Coast of America because of how Armed the Populace was .

No, they didn't.

Without derailing this thread into WWII history talk, Japan didn't invade the West Coast because it wasn't one of their objectives. Even if there wasn't a single firearm in the whole nation, it just wasn't on their To-Do list. They were focused on the islands and China.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Smoking and drinking isn't a right it's a privilege not the license attached to them. You're right minors don't have the same rights adults have. So you're saying 20 year olds are minors? 18-21 should not have adult rights if you take the right to self-defense away.

So they shouldnt have the right to vote either. If they are not adults they shouldnt be able to vote.

 

[Pellinore]

Smoking and drinking isn't a right it's a privilege not the license attached to them. You're right minors don't have the same rights adults have. So you're saying 20 year olds are minors? 18-21 should not have adult rights if you take the right to self-defense away.

Aren't there already limits on which firearms 18-20s can buy? I believe that the federal minimum age for buying a handgun from a licensed dealer is 21. Doesn't that mean the precedent has already been set?

 

[Dagosa]

Smoking and drinking isn't a right it's a privilege not the license attached to them. You're right minors don't have the same rights adults have. So you're saying 20 year olds are minors? 18-21 should not have adult rights if you take the right to self-defense away.

And, the right to bear arms IS NOT AN UNLIMITED RIGHT.