US to withdraw from NATO?

[JonKoch]

We have oil and gas. I guess you forgot.

Sure, but it's a world wide market, guess who controls it? Not the US gov't

 

[Robert W]

We don't know that it was Iran who fired those missiles.

You will protect Iran till they are overturned. Sooner than you think.

 

[Robert W]

Sure, but it's a world wide market, guess who controls it? Not the US gov't

The USA market fills the USA just fine.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope, they would be lost without US military support.

Funny, they are the ones helping Ukraine the most.

And now they get to deal with Iranian missiles because of the fat rapost's war of vanity.

You have jerked off to waaaay too much Newsmax, my man.

 

[Robert W]

Funny, they are the ones helping Ukraine the most.

And now they get to deal with Iranian missiles because of the fat rapost's war of vanity.

You have jerked off to waaaay too much Newsmax, my man.

Can anyone see why Democrats lie so much? Watch that poster and learn how he does it.

 

[JonKoch]

Point being, Iran attacked two NATO countries, the US is battling Iran over its nuclear program, and all the other NATO countries are saying "not my problem", So Article 5 is worthless?

How do you think the missiles were shot down?

As of late March 2026, Turkey's Ministry of Defense and NATO reported multiple instances of NATO-deployed air defenses intercepting ballistic missiles launched from Iran that breached Turkish airspace.


These incidents, occurring during a broader escalation involving Iran, the U.S., and Israel, have not triggered Article 5, as NATO leaders emphasized defense vigilance over immediate retaliation.

 

[justoffal]

I cannot think of anything that Putin would like more than to see the US withdraw from NATO. Having achieved nothing but chaos with his vastly unpopular war in Iran, one we started, Trump is once again doing the bidding of his KBG master in the Kremlin.

MSN

Good bye....good riddance..
Best thing that ever happened to that collection of do nothings....now they will have to develop military muscle....the world is better off for it.

 

[JonKoch]

Except that EU countries started spending more money on NATO during Trumps first term.

Nope, Obama pressured them starting when Putin invaded Ukraine

 

[JonKoch]

The USA market fills the USA just fine.

Sure it does, sure.

Crude Oil Markets:​

Oct 21, 2020

We found that repealing the ban was associated with:

Expanding the market for U.S. crude oil to overseas buyers

Allowing producers to charge higher prices relative to comparable foreign oil

Decreasing profit margins for petroleum refiners as they paid more for domestic crude oil relative to international prices

Decreasing demand for U.S. tankers to move domestic oil, leading to declines in the U.S. shipping industry

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-118#:~:text=We%20found%20that%20repealing%20the,to%20comparable%20foreign%20crude%20oil.

THAT'S THE RESULT OF GOP BLACKMAILING OBAMA IN 2015, WE COULDN'T EXPORT MUCH CRUDE 1975-2015. Good thing we know those BIG OIL companies are looking out for US though, right?

 

[Robert W]

Nope, Obama pressured them starting when Putin invaded Ukraine

 

[JonKoch]

Leave NATO and form a new alliance in Asia Pacific instead. Japan and S. Korea welcome US troops.

Yeah, because the US has so much credibility on the world stage, I'm sure nations will flock to Cheeto's "new alliance"

 

[toobfreak]

I cannot think of anything that Putin would like more than to see the US withdraw from NATO.

All the more reason to do it. After all, all you've claimed for years is that Trump was a Putin puppet anyway, right? Let Europe fend for themselves.

Having achieved nothing but chaos with his vastly unpopular war in Iran,

He's in the process of settling the ME as the other nations in the area beg him to not let up. The war is hugely popular with everyone but our enemies.

one we started,

Yep, we invaded our embassy and kidnapped our own ambassadors.

Trump is once again doing the bidding of his KBG master in the Kremlin.

Super. Serves you right.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Good bye....good riddance..
Best thing that ever happened to that collection of do nothings....now they will have to develop military muscle....the world is better off for it.

What insanity

 

[JonKoch]

Russia invade Ukraine in 2014....over a decade ago...that's not new....

Trump, not Xiden or Obama....started giving Ukraine defensive weapons, Trump, not Obama oro Xiden got NATO to step up, and Europe to step up and help

• President Obama resisted providing lethal weaponry, such as Javelin anti-tank missiles, over concerns that it could escalate the conflict, trigger further Russian aggression, and lead to a proxy war.

• Security Aid Provided: Instead of lethal weapons, the Obama administration provided over $600 million in non-lethal security aid between 2014 and 2016. This included counter-mortar radars, night-vision devices, medical supplies, body armor, helmets, and Humvees.

• Establishment of Assistance: In the final year of his term, Obama established the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) to provide training and equipment.

• Comparison with Later Administrations: The decision to send lethal weapons was later authorized by the Trump administration in 2017 (including Javelin missiles), with the Biden administration significantly expanding the scope and volume of both lethal and non-lethal aid to Ukraine

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SHOW WHERE CHEETO GOT EU TO STEP UP? THEY DIDN'T DO MUCH UNTIL THE FULL INVASION IN 2022, LIKE THE US

 

[justoffal]

What insanity

Nah....it's called Spartan nurture...
Good for the Boyz...

 

[struth]

• President Obama resisted providing lethal weaponry, such as Javelin anti-tank missiles, over concerns that it could escalate the conflict, trigger further Russian aggression, and lead to a proxy war.

• Security Aid Provided: Instead of lethal weapons, the Obama administration provided over $600 million in non-lethal security aid between 2014 and 2016. This included counter-mortar radars, night-vision devices, medical supplies, body armor, helmets, and Humvees.

• Establishment of Assistance: In the final year of his term, Obama established the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) to provide training and equipment.

• Comparison with Later Administrations: The decision to send lethal weapons was later authorized by the Trump administration in 2017 (including Javelin missiles), with the Biden administration significantly expanding the scope and volume of both lethal and non-lethal aid to Ukraine

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SHOW WHERE CHEETO GOT EU TO STEP UP? THEY DIDN'T DO MUCH UNTIL THE FULL INVASION IN 2022, LIKE THE US

t

Thanks for telling us all he didn’t care

 

[JonKoch]

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While subsequent administrations, , claimed more dramatic results, the foundational push for increased European defense spending was heavily driven by the Obama administration's efforts in 2014–2016.

Obama Warns NATO Allies to Share Defense Burden: 'We Can't Do It Alone'

Part of what I discussed with Secretary General of NATO Rasmussen and now with the new Secretary General Stoltenberg is the need to make sure that the collective defense effort is robust, it is ready, it is properly equipped. That does mean that every NATO member has to do its fair share...

www.atlanticcouncil.org

 

[JonKoch]

t

Thanks for telling us all he didn’t care

Sure, as Cheeto is trying to get Ukraine to give up their nation, AND claiming Ukraine started the war, lol

 

[struth]

Sure, as Cheeto is trying to get Ukraine to give up their nation, AND claiming Ukraine started the war, lol

Oh his fault Obama was more flexible?

You are a lie

 

[JonKoch]

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March 26, 2026

NATO countries hit 2 percent of GDP spending target​

NATO countries hit 2 percent of GDP spending target

However, there were wide discrepancies in spending among NATO countries, the alliance’s annual report shows.

www.politico.eu

At the 2014 Wales Summit, President Obama led NATO allies to pledge to move toward spending 2% of their GDP on defense by 2024. This commitment, designed to address security vacuums and reduce the U.S. burden, was a response to Russian aggression in Ukraine. Obama frequently pressed allies to meet this goal.