It is the context of what a real worldwide threat looks like.
US: Most Americans: "unacceptable to leave the Iranian regime in power"
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Dragonlady
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Europe is having nothing to do with Trump or his war of choice.
Trump has been lying to and about your allies since his first term when he tried to claim we owed you money. The leaders quote literally laughed in his face.
They laughed in his face again when he said he told the UN his administration was the greatest in US history.
Trump has torn up every agreement he’s signed as President, and destroyed international trust in the USA or it’s leaders. He has insulted, denigrated and tried to bully your former allies.
You are completely isolated. Trump’s great friend Putin, is helping the Iranians to kill Americans. Trump says that’s ok with him.
Stop deluding yourself. Trump has made a mess he can’t lie his way out of. TACO chickened out on his threat. Again.
The Iranians are winning. All you’ve done is replaced one hardline regime with another and destabilized the ME - again.
IM2
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Iran is not your country, and I believe that is what Dagonlady meant.
Trump has consistently done stupid things. But to stupid people, Trump seems like a genius.
Again, we created the animosity Iran has toward America. We need to leave them the hell alone and work on regime change here.
Oh, terrific ... another irrational Trump hater.
IM2
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White supremacy contains an arrogance as well as an attitude of entitlement. These guys believe America is right no matter what we do, just as long as America is doing it to the proper types of people.
That's a lie.
They ponied up the money they owed NATO ... only decades too late.
Europe is having nothing to do with Trump because virtually all of the countries are now led by gutless leftist cowards who have depended upon America for far too long. Trump gets that, so we'll do it ourselves.
Who cares? He's a serial exaggerator with a big ego. Everybody in the world knows it.
Joe Biden was a serial liar with a big ego but nobody cares because he played ball with our "allies" ... and our enemies, for that matter.
Oh good. Another person who's fallen for the Putin bullshit.
You'd think supposedly intelligent people would avoid that pitfall but, alas, I guess not ...
I'm going to remember that line forever: "The Iranians are winning."
No, they are not.
That's who you WANT to win. You would rather have a radical Islamic terrorist state in place than have Donald Trump win.
It's really just that simple. Your TDS is so insane, so off the charts, you want Iran to humiliate the United States.
Zincwarrior
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It was the subject of the actual Twit post.
toomuchtime_
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Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and an Iranian proxy. Hezbollah south of our border is a real threat to the US. Hezbollah in Canada is a real threat to the US. Hezbollah in European countries is a real threat of terrorism in Europe. Take down the Iranian regime and Hezbollah withers away.
Yes, I know.
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That doesn't mean there was an urgency that did not allow for taking measures in anticipation of Iran's reliance upon its control of the Strait beforehand. Certainly that was the case given the obliteration of Iran's nuclear potential in June of last year:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran’s nuclear enrichment program was obliterated. There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement," Gabard wrote...
U.S. Joins Israel in Strikes on Iranian Nuclear Sites, Risking Wider War
The operation marks the most direct American military intervention inside Iran in decades
time.com
Regarding Trump's "little excursion," I share the view of most Americans:
Trump's approval rating fell in recent days to its lowest point since he returned to the White House, hit by a surge in fuel prices and widespread disapproval of the war he launched on Iran, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.
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There were no measures to take. Iran basically owns the Strait.That doesn't mean there was an urgency that did not allow for taking measures in anticipation of Iran's reliance upon its control of the Strait beforehand. Certainly that was the case given the obliteration of Iran's nuclear potential in June of last year:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran’s nuclear enrichment program was obliterated. There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement," Gabard wrote...U.S. Joins Israel in Strikes on Iranian Nuclear Sites, Risking Wider War
The operation marks the most direct American military intervention inside Iran in decadesRegarding Trump's "little excursion," I share the view of most Americans:Trump's approval rating fell in recent days to its lowest point since he returned to the White House, hit by a surge in fuel prices and widespread disapproval of the war he launched on Iran, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.
IM2
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Look at this litany of lies.That's a lie.
They ponied up the money they owed NATO ... only decades too late.
Europe is having nothing to do with Trump because virtually all of the countries are now led by gutless leftist cowards who have depended upon America for far too long. Trump gets that, so we'll do it ourselves.
Who cares? He's a serial exaggerator with a big ego. Everybody in the world knows it.
Joe Biden was a serial liar with a big ego but nobody cares because he played ball with our "allies" ... and our enemies, for that matter.
Oh good. Another person who's fallen for the Putin bullshit.
You'd think supposedly intelligent people would avoid that pitfall but, alas, I guess not ...
I'm going to remember that line forever: "The Iranians are winning."
No, they are not.
That's who you WANT to win. You would rather have a radical Islamic terrorist state in place than have Donald Trump win.
It's really just that simple. Your TDS is so insane, so off the charts, you want Iran to humiliate the United States.
We have won nothing without help from our allies. Without them we won't win this one either.
This is not about anybody wanting Iran to win. It is time you right-wing dumbfucks stopped using this kind of rhetoric. It is about pointing out the truth. Iran has not quit, and Trump will not make them quit. We do not live in Iran, so who is ruling Iran should be of no concern. We have radical Christian fundamentalist terrorists trying to take over this country and impose what you would call sharia law if what these people believe was coming from Muims. Yet you want to impose that on Americans. So it is time we began removing the radical right-wing Christian nationalists' regime out of our government instead of worrying about Iran.
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Hasbara in da house
Andrew_Jackson_FTW
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Iran is not a threat to America. Since 1979 when the so-called Islamic Republic came to power, the economy has been on an upward trajectory. This is all about Zionism and the Zionist lobby…. people have a right to support Israel. They don’t have the right to tell people how to think and call them racist or something stupid for opposing the powerful Zionist lobby.
Sure the Gulf states and Israel have an opposition to Iran. It is a regional situation.
At this point we are already involved and can only hope for the best. …what you have to watch out for is in the aftermath of Trump calling for this thing to end… Israel doing something to screw up the process.
Sure the Gulf states and Israel have an opposition to Iran. It is a regional situation.
At this point we are already involved and can only hope for the best. …what you have to watch out for is in the aftermath of Trump calling for this thing to end… Israel doing something to screw up the process.
IM2
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Hezbollah won't wither away if Iran is taken down. We need to erase the many homegrown domestic terrorist groups here, many who have members now employed by ICE.
Andrew_Jackson_FTW
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Also Obama , Harris and Biden were vehemently pro Israel. So this thing is not just about Trump.
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Biden and Obama were not pro Israel.
schmidlap
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Your plea of Trump's ignorance/impotence in the matter fails.
The U.S. intelligence history regarding the Strait of Hormuz is marked by a series of military operations and strategic assessments aimed at ensuring the passage of oil tankers through the narrow waterway...
From the start of the Iran operation on Feb. 28, however, it was clear there was little such planning or collaboration. The U.S. has been caught flat-footed on everything from the spike in oil prices to drones targeting U.S. embassies. Senior Trump aides don’t even seem to have coordinated their talking points;
It's a MAGA operation:
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Zincwarrior
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To stop the regime requires a full land invasion. It will engender thousands of casualties, and historically we will be stuck there for years.
Is it worth it?
Is it worth it?
IM2
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They were pro-Israel indeed.
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