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[JoeB131]

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Israeli know that Arabs will never accept a Jewish state in the Middle East.
But unfortunately for them, Israel doesn't abide by what they want.
They already tried to kick Israel out of the ME, remember? Several times.

And that's why Israel isn't going back the 67 borders , because it won't change anything.

And what do you mean the British had no right to give land to nobody? There was nothing illegal about the partition plan, unless you have documents to prove otherwise...

Guy, if you want to go there.

Show me a document that shows the Holocaust was "illegal". Germany had a law, and they executed it. It was perfectly okay for them to deprive their Jewish population of their property and give it to deserving Aryans.

Of course, that's nuts and wrong, but, hey, it's legal under the "might makes right" theory, I guess.

But if you accept the premise that peace is impossible as long as the Arab world will never accept Israel's existence, what is your alternative, perpetual war? That's ******* insane. And in the long term, you are going to lose.

Again, think back to the Crusader States, and why they didn't last.

 

[JoeB131]

[Evidently you don't know any Jews. For 90% (perhaps 100%) of them Israel's existence has nothing to do with pleasing your IMitS. It has to do with the end of their oppression and their survival as a people.

It is equally clear you know nothing of the 100 years which preceded the rebirth of Israel as the Jewish Homeland.

While it is disappointing that any minority needs a homeland as a refuge, the advent of modern human EXTERMINATION techniques and the eagerness of some to employ them made clear that such a homeland would be necessary if Jews were to exist in the 21st Century.

Many people were dislocated following WW2 and the Jews landed on a small strip of land which most believe their ancestors inhabited centuries before.

This exacerbated upheaval in the region which was both regrettable and predictable as well as necessary. There just wasn't any way around it and there will be no do-overs in the matter.

As Rocco noted, unless and until the Arabs find it in their hearts to accept Israel's existence, there is little hope for real peace there.

Quite right. There's little hope.

So why should I as an American continue to fork over tax dollars and occassionally send young American men over to die in order to pander to a fantasy that this is your "homeland" when most of you haven't lived there in thousands of years.

If your concerned about being "Exterminated", then does setting up shop on a strip of land next to people who strap bombs onto their own children to try to get rid of you really make a lot of sense?

 

[Sally]

No, guy, Psychosis is some shitstain thinking that we should have perpetual war over a strip of land because an Imaginary Pixie In the Sky said so.

That's just plain nuts.

Because you take out the religion aspect of it, the whole Zionism thing is batshit crazy.

Delusions are also part of the psychosis boy get some help

When I see Joe blabbering about "Zionist this" and "Zionist that," it brings to mind this piece that I read recently.

Kansas, the KKK and hate without end - latimes.com

 

[toastman]

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Israeli know that Arabs will never accept a Jewish state in the Middle East.
But unfortunately for them, Israel doesn't abide by what they want.
They already tried to kick Israel out of the ME, remember? Several times.

And that's why Israel isn't going back the 67 borders , because it won't change anything.

And what do you mean the British had no right to give land to nobody? There was nothing illegal about the partition plan, unless you have documents to prove otherwise...

Guy, if you want to go there.

Show me a document that shows the Holocaust was "illegal". Germany had a law, and they executed it. It was perfectly okay for them to deprive their Jewish population of their property and give it to deserving Aryans.

Of course, that's nuts and wrong, but, hey, it's legal under the "might makes right" theory, I guess.

But if you accept the premise that peace is impossible as long as the Arab world will never accept Israel's existence, what is your alternative, perpetual war? That's ******* insane. And in the long term, you are going to lose.

Again, think back to the Crusader States, and why they didn't last.

Your comparison of the legality of the Holocaust to the legality of the British partition plan shows you have no argument.
Got your back to the wall, Joe??

You've been doing nothing but blabbing for the last 10 posts.
I've ready dismantled your 'logic' , so you can either continue making a fool of yourself or not.

Repeat after me Joe.


LONG LIVE ISRAEL

 

[toastman]

[Evidently you don't know any Jews. For 90% (perhaps 100%) of them Israel's existence has nothing to do with pleasing your IMitS. It has to do with the end of their oppression and their survival as a people.

It is equally clear you know nothing of the 100 years which preceded the rebirth of Israel as the Jewish Homeland.

While it is disappointing that any minority needs a homeland as a refuge, the advent of modern human EXTERMINATION techniques and the eagerness of some to employ them made clear that such a homeland would be necessary if Jews were to exist in the 21st Century.

Many people were dislocated following WW2 and the Jews landed on a small strip of land which most believe their ancestors inhabited centuries before.

This exacerbated upheaval in the region which was both regrettable and predictable as well as necessary. There just wasn't any way around it and there will be no do-overs in the matter.

As Rocco noted, unless and until the Arabs find it in their hearts to accept Israel's existence, there is little hope for real peace there.

Quite right. There's little hope.

So why should I as an American continue to fork over tax dollars and occassionally send young American men over to die in order to pander to a fantasy that this is your "homeland" when most of you haven't lived there in thousands of years.

If your concerned about being "Exterminated", then does setting up shop on a strip of land next to people who strap bombs onto their own children to try to get rid of you really make a lot of sense?

You're still asking why the Jews declared independence where they did?
How cluess are you?

You're right Joe, it is a bad neighbourhood. Maybe Israelis should pick up and leave their entire life beyond, because some rag tag AK-47 toting Muslim Jihadists want them to?

You're underestimating the patriotism of Israelis Joe.

 

[pbel]

i'd have no problem if the jews were going to preserve their culture by going to a land where they've been invited to do so and pay the people who own the property a fair market price for it.

I have a big problem when they go in, steal someone else's land, enrage 1/6 of the world's population against the west, and they do it all to please an invisible man in the sky.

evidently you don't know any jews. For 90% (perhaps 100%) of them israel's existence has nothing to do with pleasing your imits. It has to do with the end of their oppression and their survival as a people.
Following wwii and the holocaust, i can see why the jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as european jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the arabs need to accept a jewish state that has refused to even discuss just that with the arab league peace offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the german nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to israel's wars...accept the arab league offer and they will accept israel as they have stated.

At least they should consider it for the sake of peace,

it is equally clear you know nothing of the 100 years which preceded the rebirth of israel as the jewish homeland.

While it is disappointing that any minority needs a homeland as a refuge, the advent of modern human extermination techniques and the eagerness of some to employ them made clear that such a homeland would be necessary if jews were to exist in the 21st century.

Many people were dislocated following ww2 and the jews landed on a small strip of land which most believe their ancestors inhabited centuries before.

This exacerbated upheaval in the region which was both regrettable and predictable as well as necessary. There just wasn't any way around it and there will be no do-overs in the matter.

As rocco noted, unless and until the arabs find it in their hearts to accept israel's existence, there is little hope for real peace there.

 

[pbel]

evidently you don't know any jews. For 90% (perhaps 100%) of them israel's existence has nothing to do with pleasing your imits. It has to do with the end of their oppression and their survival as a people.
Following wwii and the holocaust, i can see why the jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated war was predictable" war plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as european jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the arabs need to accept a jewish state that has refused to even discuss just that with the arab league peace offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the german nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to israel's wars...accept the arab league offer and they will accept israel as they have stated.

At least they should consider it for the sake of peace,

it is equally clear you know nothing of the 100 years which preceded the rebirth of israel as the jewish homeland.

While it is disappointing that any minority needs a homeland as a refuge, the advent of modern human extermination techniques and the eagerness of some to employ them made clear that such a homeland would be necessary if jews were to exist in the 21st century.

Many people were dislocated following ww2 and the jews landed on a small strip of land which most believe their ancestors inhabited centuries before.

This exacerbated upheaval in the region which was both regrettable and predictable as well as necessary. There just wasn't any way around it and there will be no do-overs in the matter.

As rocco noted, unless and until the arabs find it in their hearts to accept israel's existence, there is little hope for real peace there.

Following WWII and the holocaust, I can see why the Jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as European Jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the Arabs need to accept a Jewish State that has refused to even discuss just that with the Arab League Peace Offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the German Nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want Acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to Israel's wars...Accept the Arab League offer and they will accept Israel as they have stated .

 

[Hossfly]

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Following WWII and the holocaust, I can see why the Jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as European Jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the Arabs need to accept a Jewish State that has refused to even discuss just that with the Arab League Peace Offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the German Nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want Acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to Israel's wars...Accept the Arab League offer and they will accept Israel as they have stated .

That's a deal. But no '67 borders, no E.Jerusalem, no ROR. OK?

 

[pbel]

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Following WWII and the holocaust, I can see why the Jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as European Jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the Arabs need to accept a Jewish State that has refused to even discuss just that with the Arab League Peace Offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the German Nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want Acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to Israel's wars...Accept the Arab League offer and they will accept Israel as they have stated .

That's a deal. But no '67 borders, no E.Jerusalem, no ROR. OK?

Its OK with me, but I doubt a billion people will.

 

[Hossfly]

That's a deal. But no '67 borders, no E.Jerusalem, no ROR. OK?

Its OK with me, but I doubt a billion people will.

Well then, looks like the bottle rockets will get fired up soon. Time to negotiate another peace initiative.

 

[toastman]

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Following WWII and the holocaust, I can see why the Jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as European Jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the Arabs need to accept a Jewish State that has refused to even discuss just that with the Arab League Peace Offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the German Nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want Acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to Israel's wars...Accept the Arab League offer and they will accept Israel as they have stated .

Do you expect to be taken seriously when you compare the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust to Palestinians being killed during hostilities.
Slaughtered Palestinians?? Please

King Hussein slaughtered Palestinians.

And succumbing to the demands of the Arabs will not make them accept Israel.

 

[montelatici]

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Following WWII and the holocaust, I can see why the Jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as European Jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the Arabs need to accept a Jewish State that has refused to even discuss just that with the Arab League Peace Offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the German Nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want Acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to Israel's wars...Accept the Arab League offer and they will accept Israel as they have stated .

Do you expect to be taken seriously when you compare the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust to Palestinians being killed during hostilities.
Slaughtered Palestinians?? Please

King Hussein slaughtered Palestinians.

And succumbing to the demands of the Arabs will not make them accept Israel.

Well, I guess to you Jewish lives are more valuable than non-Jewish lives. To me there is no difference.

 

[pbel]

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Following WWII and the holocaust, I can see why the Jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as European Jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the Arabs need to accept a Jewish State that has refused to even discuss just that with the Arab League Peace Offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the German Nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want Acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to Israel's wars...Accept the Arab League offer and they will accept Israel as they have stated .

Do you expect to be taken seriously when you compare the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust to Palestinians being killed during hostilities.
Slaughtered Palestinians?? Please

King Hussein slaughtered Palestinians.

And succumbing to the demands of the Arabs will not make them accept Israel.

The standing offer by the Arab League is in writing...Peace deals with Egypt and Jordan have held...
65 years under the Israeli boot is a lot worse on the human mind, a slow motion genocide has created generations of poisonous hate, that's the greater danger...


Its Israel's move.

 

[toastman]

Do you expect to be taken seriously when you compare the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust to Palestinians being killed during hostilities.
Slaughtered Palestinians?? Please

King Hussein slaughtered Palestinians.

And succumbing to the demands of the Arabs will not make them accept Israel.

Well, I guess to you Jewish lives are more valuable than non-Jewish lives. To me there is no difference.

Where the **** did I say that?

 

[Sally]

Do you expect to be taken seriously when you compare the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust to Palestinians being killed during hostilities.
Slaughtered Palestinians?? Please

King Hussein slaughtered Palestinians.

And succumbing to the demands of the Arabs will not make them accept Israel.

Well, I guess to you Jewish lives are more valuable than non-Jewish lives. To me there is no difference.

Yes, we see how you are mourning all the tens of thousands of lives that were taken in Syria by your own Muslim brethren.

 

[aris2chat]

Well, I guess to you Jewish lives are more valuable than non-Jewish lives. To me there is no difference.

Where the **** did I say that?

He is making assumptions and putting words in your mouth. Not very factual.

 

[Jroc]

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Delusions are also part of the psychosis boy get some help

so you really don't have an answer.

I guess you can't even meet my low expectations for you..

Why would I argue based on your delusional assertions.... all I i can do is laugh at the idiocy

 

[Phoenall]

[Evidently you don't know any Jews. For 90% (perhaps 100%) of them Israel's existence has nothing to do with pleasing your IMitS. It has to do with the end of their oppression and their survival as a people.

It is equally clear you know nothing of the 100 years which preceded the rebirth of Israel as the Jewish Homeland.

While it is disappointing that any minority needs a homeland as a refuge, the advent of modern human EXTERMINATION techniques and the eagerness of some to employ them made clear that such a homeland would be necessary if Jews were to exist in the 21st Century.

Many people were dislocated following WW2 and the Jews landed on a small strip of land which most believe their ancestors inhabited centuries before.

This exacerbated upheaval in the region which was both regrettable and predictable as well as necessary. There just wasn't any way around it and there will be no do-overs in the matter.

As Rocco noted, unless and until the Arabs find it in their hearts to accept Israel's existence, there is little hope for real peace there.

Quite right. There's little hope.

So why should I as an American continue to fork over tax dollars and occassionally send young American men over to die in order to pander to a fantasy that this is your "homeland" when most of you haven't lived there in thousands of years.

If your concerned about being "Exterminated", then does setting up shop on a strip of land next to people who strap bombs onto their own children to try to get rid of you really make a lot of sense?

Then you explain why so many Americans have to start looking for work because the Israeli's are not tied to a deal with America any more. Then explain to all the families of dying Americans why your policies have resulted in inferior medical supplies contributing to their deaths.

You are just a NAZI ANTISEMITIC JEW HATER

 

[Phoenall]

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Following WWII and the holocaust, I can see why the Jews need a safe-haven, however as you well know and admit, "exuberated was predictable" plus some. How could you not expect righteous resistance as European Jews who were slaughtered, now slaughtered the indigenous people while creating their safe haven.

You say the Arabs need to accept a Jewish State that has refused to even discuss just that with the Arab League Peace Offer of 2002 and recently re-presented...

Israel wants no peace until she like the German Nazis disposes unarmed people of their homes and land and you want Acceptance?

Hang in there, and commit your grandchildren and their grandchildren to Israel's wars...Accept the Arab League offer and they will accept Israel as they have stated .

But they didn't "slaughter" the indigenous did they, that is an ISLAMONAZI BLOOD LIBEL. The majority of European Jews were survivors of the death camps and were riddled with diseases, disabilities and injuries, most were elderly and unable to kill a fly never mind a maddened blood thirsty muslim.
Yes the arab contingent does need to recognise that Israel is THE ONLY JEWISH STATE in the world, and that it has special UN protection. The history books show that Israel has offered peace terms since 1949, and have complied with every aspect of International Law, Geneva conventions, UN charter and UN resolutions in this time. All the Palestinians do is demand fictitious 67 borders and illegal and immoral right of return while denying the same to the Jews.
Israel has shown their willingness to talk peace by striking deals with Egypt and Jordan, and if they really wanted to disposes the Palestinians of their land they would just take it and do a Jordan.

Accept the arab league offer and you will see Israel destroyed and the Jews mass murdered

 

[Phoenall]

That's a deal. But no '67 borders, no E.Jerusalem, no ROR. OK?

Its OK with me, but I doubt a billion people will.

I doubt that 5 billion people will put up with Islamic terrorism for much longer, and will start deporting them from the west. We in the civilised nations are sick of the excuses used by muslim murdering scum to inflict their vile evil religion on our lands. Blaming our nations trade partnerships with Israel as a reason to blow up our children is despicable and wrong.