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[Hossfly]

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What do you mean, "I have a big problem"? It ain't none o' yer fukun business, Adolph.

When I as an American am being potentially targetted because the Islamic world hates America for propping up Zionism.

It is my business.

Well, I'm not a Jew or a Christian but as a loyal patriotic American I believe all Christians and Americans should be Zionists. After all, they worship one whose Resurrection they celebrate today.

 

[JoeB131]

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What do you mean, "I have a big problem"? It ain't none o' yer fukun business, Adolph.

When I as an American am being potentially targetted because the Islamic world hates America for propping up Zionism.

It is my business.

Well, I'm not a Jew or a Christian but as a loyal patriotic American I believe all Christians and Americans should be Zionists. After all, they worship one whose Resurrection they celebrate today.

I don't worship a person who never existed to start with.

But if you want to go there, it was the Jews who instigated Jesus' death. Espeically the Gospel of John, which is an anti-Semite's favorite gospel.

What we should be in neutral in a fight over sky pixies. Because you start down that road, and pretty soon they are killing each other over whether Jesus was made of wafers or not...

 

[toastman]

Why should you fear Zionism (a national movement within Jewish culture that supports the creation of a Jewish homeland) any more than the global expansion of Islam or the policy of the Rashidun Caliphs (the continuation of Muhammad's aggressive territorial expansion)?

Ah, shit, another one who thinks there are Muslims hiding under his bed!

Okay, guy, if a group is out for World DOmination and they really don't control much more ofthe world than they did 1000 years ago - in fact, less of it than they did 500 years ago - then I don't worry that much about their prowess as world conquerors.

All of our problems with Islam is because we keep sticking our noses in their business.

It should be noted that the Jewish Culture, earmarked for preservation by the Allied Powers, in no way --- ever represented the same measure of expansionist threat of that --- presented by the Muslim dominated cultures. Nor have the Muslim dominated cultures exemplified any of the advancements that are exhibited by the Jewish culture.

Yeah. They Jewish culture gave us the Abrahamic Religions. The Dark Ages were the first Faith-Based iniative.

Your preference for Muslim Expansionism over Jewish Relocation is purely based on something other than the preservation of a human culture that was nearly rendered crippled.

I've discussed, several times, the need to extend protection to this culture. But as you have already promoted the view in favor of sectarian violence, there is little to be gained by discussing the wider humanitarian considerations that are masked by the dispute.

Most Respectfully,
R

I'd have no problem if the Jews were going to preserve their culture by going to a land where they've been invited to do so and pay the people who own the property a fair market price for it.

I have a big problem when they go in, steal someone else's land, enrage 1/6 of the world's population against the West, and they do it all to please an Invisible Man in the Sky.

He wasn't talking about Islam and its effects on the U.S.
He was just talking about Islamic jihadists and fedayeen in general and whenever someone talks about that, you come up with your 'Muslim under the bed comment'

What I find hard to believe is that you had the nerve to call me a whiner , yet almost every post of yours is whining

 

[toastman]

When I as an American am being potentially targetted because the Islamic world hates America for propping up Zionism.

It is my business.

Well, I'm not a Jew or a Christian but as a loyal patriotic American I believe all Christians and Americans should be Zionists. After all, they worship one whose Resurrection they celebrate today.

I don't worship a person who never existed to start with.

But if you want to go there, it was the Jews who instigated Jesus' death. Espeically the Gospel of John, which is an anti-Semite's favorite gospel.

What we should be in neutral in a fight over sky pixies. Because you start down that road, and pretty soon they are killing each other over whether Jesus was made of wafers or not...

No one is forcing you to believe in religion Nazi Joe, so what's the point of shitting all over other peoples beliefs in the incredibly immature manner that you're doing it in?
I'm far from being a religious person, but there are far more respectful, mature ways to express your views on religion and God.

 

[JoeB131]

He wasn't talking about Islam and its effects on the U.S.
He was just talking about Islamic jihadists and fedayeen in general and whenever someone talks about that, you come up with your 'Muslim under the bed comment'

What I find hard to believe is that you had the nerve to call me a whiner , yet almost every post of yours is whining

Do you know what the Arabs were before the West started ******* with them?

They were a bunch of NOmads fighting over wells.

Then we introduced the Zionists to take their holy lands and gave them a shitload of money because we can't check our addiction to petroleum.

Point is, the Jihadists and Fedayeen don't **** with Japan. Why?

Japan minds it's own ******* business.

We totally need to follow Japan's example.

Well, maybe not in all things.

 

[toastman]

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What do you mean, "I have a big problem"? It ain't none o' yer fukun business, Adolph.

When I as an American am being potentially targetted because the Islamic world hates America for propping up Zionism.

It is my business.

You really think that's the only reason Muslims hate America??

 

[JoeB131]

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No one is forcing you to believe in religion Nazi Joe, so what's the point of shitting all over other peoples beliefs in the incredibly immature manner that you're doing it in?
I'm far from being a religious person, but there are far more respectful, mature ways to express your views on religion and God.

You have to EARN my respect before you get it.

And frankly, if you kept your backward-ass bronze age fairy tales to yourself, I'd have no problem with you.

Sadly, you guys don't do that... so when you aren't getting us into the middle of a fight over who a Magic Sky Pixie promised a strip of sand to, you are putting a complete retard like George W. Bush in office because he's "Right With Jesus".

Seriously, my contempt is all the religious deserve.

 

[JoeB131]

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What do you mean, "I have a big problem"? It ain't none o' yer fukun business, Adolph.

When I as an American am being potentially targetted because the Islamic world hates America for propping up Zionism.

It is my business.

You really think that's the only reason Muslims hate America??

Again, don't see them ******* with Japan, do you?

 

[toastman]

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No one is forcing you to believe in religion Nazi Joe, so what's the point of shitting all over other peoples beliefs in the incredibly immature manner that you're doing it in?
I'm far from being a religious person, but there are far more respectful, mature ways to express your views on religion and God.

You have to EARN my respect before you get it.

And frankly, if you kept your backward-ass bronze age fairy tales to yourself, I'd have no problem with you.

Sadly, you guys don't do that... so when you aren't getting us into the middle of a fight over who a Magic Sky Pixie promised a strip of sand to, you are putting a complete retard like George W. Bush in office because he's "Right With Jesus".

Seriously, my contempt is all the religious deserve.

So America has fought wars in the ME because of God? You make no sense.
Most Israelis are secular and don't believe that God gave them Israel, so you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Your earlier comment about how Israel stole the Palestinians land is further proof of this. Israel legally declared independence after cessation of the Mandate on the territory allotted to them by Resolution 181. This had nothing to do with stealing.
It's just a cheap excuse to hate Israel....

 

[Hossfly]

When I as an American am being potentially targetted because the Islamic world hates America for propping up Zionism.

It is my business.

You really think that's the only reason Muslims hate America??

Again, don't see them ******* with Japan, do you?

The reason they don't mess with Japan and Korea is the fact they would have their heads handed to them and anyone who doesn't like it can take a hike.

 

[JoeB131]

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So America has fought wars in the ME because of God? You make no sense.
Most Israelis are secular and don't believe that God gave them Israel, so you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Your earlier comment about how Israel stole the Palestinians land is further proof of this. Israel legally declared independence after cessation of the Mandate on the territory allotted to them by Resolution 181. This had nothing to do with stealing.
It's just a cheap excuse to hate Israel....

You can come up with all sort of "legalistic" excuses, but the reality was, the Zionists stole the land from the people it belonged to.

Period.

No, America fights Wars in the Middle East because the Zionists and Oil Lobbies- the biggest TRAITORS in American history- have too much influence on our politics and media.

 

[toastman]

When I as an American am being potentially targetted because the Islamic world hates America for propping up Zionism.

It is my business.

You really think that's the only reason Muslims hate America??

Again, don't see them ******* with Japan, do you?

What I was saying was that Americas support for Israel is not the only reason that ME Muslims hate America. It's also because the U.S has military bases in the ME, and the Muslims want them out completely. And people like you have no problem succumbing to the demands if these people (demand by attacking Americans , American bases, threats)
Sorry, but the U.S is not weak like that. They will leave the ME when THEY want to leave, not when a bunch of violent Ak-47 toting jihadists tell them to.

 

[JoeB131]

You really think that's the only reason Muslims hate America??

Again, don't see them ******* with Japan, do you?

The reason they don't mess with Japan and Korea is the fact they would have their heads handed to them and anyone who doesn't like it can take a hike.

Uhhhhh, nobody is afraid of the Japanese Defense Forces other than Godzilla... and he's fictional.

If htey pulled a 9/11 against Japan, there really isn't all that much Japan could do about it.

No, you see, Japanese folks just pay people for the oil they use and don't get involved in their politics...

and only 3% of Japanese approve of Israel.

 

[JoeB131]

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What I was saying was that Americas support for Israel is not the only reason that ME Muslims hate America. It's also because the U.S has military bases in the ME, and the Muslims want them out completely. And people like you have no problem succumbing to the demands if these people (demand by attacking Americans , American bases, threats)
Sorry, but the U.S is not weak like that. They will leave the ME when THEY want to leave, not when a bunch of violent Ak-47 toting jihadists tell them to.

We have bases over there because we are looking out for Israel's interests.

If we took the 900 billion we spent on playing "Hall Monitor in the MidEast" and invested it in energy independence, we wouldn't have an issue.

And frankly, we are going to leave a lot sooner than the Zionists and Oil Companies want us to leave, because average americans are tired of watching their kids come home in boxes for nothing.

 

[Hossfly]

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So America has fought wars in the ME because of God? You make no sense.
Most Israelis are secular and don't believe that God gave them Israel, so you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Your earlier comment about how Israel stole the Palestinians land is further proof of this. Israel legally declared independence after cessation of the Mandate on the territory allotted to them by Resolution 181. This had nothing to do with stealing.
It's just a cheap excuse to hate Israel....

You can come up with all sort of "legalistic" excuses, but the reality was, the Zionists stole the land from the people it belonged to.

Period.

No, America fights Wars in the Middle East because the Zionists and Oil Lobbies- the biggest TRAITORS in American history- have too much influence on our politics and media.

If you made an effort to check it out you would find that most of the land in Israel was purchased by Jews. But you already knew that, didn't you? I think you just want to use this forum to bray out your spectacular Jew hate. I feel sorry for a critter like you.

 

[toastman]

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So America has fought wars in the ME because of God? You make no sense.
Most Israelis are secular and don't believe that God gave them Israel, so you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Your earlier comment about how Israel stole the Palestinians land is further proof of this. Israel legally declared independence after cessation of the Mandate on the territory allotted to them by Resolution 181. This had nothing to do with stealing.
It's just a cheap excuse to hate Israel....

You can come up with all sort of "legalistic" excuses, but the reality was, the Zionists stole the land from the people it belonged to.

Period.

No, America fights Wars in the Middle East because the Zionists and Oil Lobbies- the biggest TRAITORS in American history- have too much influence on our politics and media.

My legalistic proof negates your 'Israel stole their land' comment.
Just because they owned some land in the region of Mandatory Palestine, they had no sovereignty over the region which means they have zero say in decisions like the ones the British made to allow the European Jews to immigrate.
Funny thing is, had they just accepted the partition plan, things would be a lot more peaceful then they are today.
And if 5 Muslim states minded their own business and didn't declare a genocidal war against Israel while attacking them from every corner, things would be a lot more peaceful and those 700 000 refugees would still be living there.
You reap what you sow, Joe.

 

[pbel]

You really think that's the only reason Muslims hate America??

Again, don't see them ******* with Japan, do you?

What I was saying was that Americas support for Israel is not the only reason that ME Muslims hate America. It's also because the U.S has military bases in the ME, and the Muslims want them out completely. And people like you have no problem succumbing to the demands if these people (demand by attacking Americans , American bases, threats)
Sorry, but the U.S is not weak like that. They will leave the ME when THEY want to leave, not when a bunch of violent Ak-47 toting jihadists tell them to.

http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=12114.0;wap2

“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
— John Sheehan, S.J. (a Jesuit priest)

 

[toastman]

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What I was saying was that Americas support for Israel is not the only reason that ME Muslims hate America. It's also because the U.S has military bases in the ME, and the Muslims want them out completely. And people like you have no problem succumbing to the demands if these people (demand by attacking Americans , American bases, threats)
Sorry, but the U.S is not weak like that. They will leave the ME when THEY want to leave, not when a bunch of violent Ak-47 toting jihadists tell them to.

We have bases over there because we are looking out for Israel's interests.

If we took the 900 billion we spent on playing "Hall Monitor in the MidEast" and invested it in energy independence, we wouldn't have an issue.

And frankly, we are going to leave a lot sooner than the Zionists and Oil Companies want us to leave, because average americans are tired of watching their kids come home in boxes for nothing.

Can you back up your statement that America has bases in the ME, many of them far from Israel, to protect them??
Because frankly, that sounds like a bunch of anti Zionist baloney.

 

[Jroc]

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What I was saying was that Americas support for Israel is not the only reason that ME Muslims hate America. It's also because the U.S has military bases in the ME, and the Muslims want them out completely. And people like you have no problem succumbing to the demands if these people (demand by attacking Americans , American bases, threats)
Sorry, but the U.S is not weak like that. They will leave the ME when THEY want to leave, not when a bunch of violent Ak-47 toting jihadists tell them to.

We have bases over there because we are looking out for Israel's interests.

If we took the 900 billion we spent on playing "Hall Monitor in the MidEast" and invested it in energy independence, we wouldn't have an issue.

And frankly, we are going to leave a lot sooner than the Zionists and Oil Companies want us to leave, because average americans are tired of watching their kids come home in boxes for nothing.

Psychosis

Psychosis is a psychiatric condition that causes a person to lose his or her sense of reality. People with psychosis have hallucinations, delusions, or disorganized thinking that cause them to lose touch with reality

 

[pbel]

Russia gave Egypt top of the line brand new weapons, not second hand. If Egypt went to war with soldiers less than ready, that in nothing to do with Israel. Jordan and Syria I know had the best of training.
If they were not ready, they should not have begun a war with Israel. Arabs thought they could trample Israel in the dust, oops, they were wrong.

A steady mouthpiece of Israeli propaganda, Israel bombs the Egyptian Air force before declaring a war, had less troops than Israel on the border which any General will tell you its suicide without a great numerical advantage...

Fascism will never work because Karma is stronger...

Egypt had already declared war, removed the UN troops, amassed troops on all borders, had written orders to attack which I have previously posted part of but that were delayed, was coordinating with Jordan and Syria against Israel.
Considering it was a force of 5 against 1, Israel's only chance was to have air superiority against planes that could fly longer carry more armament and were harder to damage or shoot down.
The air battle was daring, innovative and required great skill. It was a long shot that paid off for Israel. You're upset because Israel succeeded against overwhelming odds? Some would call that a miracle or luck. Israeli pilots would probably have called desperation because if they failed it meant the loss of Israel. Their only option was to succeeded.

Show us a link to that declaration of war, or is that a Phalange concoction?