US Might free Jonathan Pollard

[JoeB131]

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Invoking Goodwins Law I see and bringing Hitler into the equation.
Now back to your points.............. The majority of the 8 million Palestinians have never lived in Israel or Palestine and are jumping on the gravy train. The evidence points to them being very recent arrivals in the last 50 years or so, others arrived in the previous 75 years from the surrounding areas on the promise of work on Jewish farms.

If the Palestinians were truly a 3rd world people then their survival rate would be much lower than it is, and the population would be shrinking. This shows that either they are not a 3rd world people and have access to medical treatment better than that in the USA or that the population is increasing through illegal migration.

Yes a two state solution is the best option short term and long term, the stumbling block is the Palestinians demands that must be met before they will even talk about peace talks. Very soon the over population will result in epidemics and starvation as nature invokes her laws, and the population will nose dive as they die out. There is already an epidemic of birth defects because of a dwindling gene pool and inter breeding.

Man, guy, now you are just making shit up.

Can't really discuss your fantasies about demographics, dude.

 

[Jroc]

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How about a response that shows yours was whiny as the Jews have more right to be there under International Law that the arab muslims do. The Jews have the DNA marker that places them squarely in the land they originated from. the muslims DNA shows they come from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Saudi and many other Islamic nations within living memory.
Also the LoN remit for the Mandate compelled Britain to allow the migration of displaced Jews to the land of Palestine as it was destined to be their NATIONAL HOME.

I leave the reference to Hitler and the holocaust to whiny whingey neomarxists like yourself who invoke Goodwins law all the time.

DNA Markers, really?

The Zionists- most of them- are European. The only thing they have in common with the Hebrews is a religion.

And the only reason the world went along with this simply horrible idea in 1945 was because the world felt bad about what the Nazis did, as they should.

But the Palestinians had nothing to do with that, and they didn't deserve to have their land stolen.

Love the way you Jew haters buy into the term "Palestinians" for Arab, but that's the way it is with you people

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[Phoenall]

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Invoking Goodwins Law I see and bringing Hitler into the equation.
Now back to your points.............. The majority of the 8 million Palestinians have never lived in Israel or Palestine and are jumping on the gravy train. The evidence points to them being very recent arrivals in the last 50 years or so, others arrived in the previous 75 years from the surrounding areas on the promise of work on Jewish farms.

If the Palestinians were truly a 3rd world people then their survival rate would be much lower than it is, and the population would be shrinking. This shows that either they are not a 3rd world people and have access to medical treatment better than that in the USA or that the population is increasing through illegal migration.

Yes a two state solution is the best option short term and long term, the stumbling block is the Palestinians demands that must be met before they will even talk about peace talks. Very soon the over population will result in epidemics and starvation as nature invokes her laws, and the population will nose dive as they die out. There is already an epidemic of birth defects because of a dwindling gene pool and inter breeding.

Man, guy, now you are just making shit up.

Can't really discuss your fantasies about demographics, dude.

It is simple 3rd world peoples breed like flies because the survival rate is so poor, less than 10 in 1,000. The survival rate of the Palestinians is close to 386 in 1000.

The recognised evidence shows that the vast majority of alleged Palestinians are in fact recent migrants with many coming from Syria.

The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931 :: Middle East Quarterly

 

[toastman]

I knew Joe started this thread to trash Israel and Jews.
He has posted some extremely nasty things about Jews and the Holocaust.

He's just another Jew hating Nazi shill.

 

[Phoenall]

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How about a response that shows yours was whiny as the Jews have more right to be there under International Law that the arab muslims do. The Jews have the DNA marker that places them squarely in the land they originated from. the muslims DNA shows they come from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Saudi and many other Islamic nations within living memory.
Also the LoN remit for the Mandate compelled Britain to allow the migration of displaced Jews to the land of Palestine as it was destined to be their NATIONAL HOME.

I leave the reference to Hitler and the holocaust to whiny whingey neomarxists like yourself who invoke Goodwins law all the time.

DNA Markers, really?

The Zionists- most of them- are European. The only thing they have in common with the Hebrews is a religion.

And the only reason the world went along with this simply horrible idea in 1945 was because the world felt bad about what the Nazis did, as they should.

But the Palestinians had nothing to do with that, and they didn't deserve to have their land stolen.

Most of the Ashkenazi Jews have a shared genetic marker that only exists in those people who were related to Abraham of Biblical fame. It is transmitted along the matrilineal line so any male genes entering the pool would swamp the haplotype and eradicate it within 2 generations.
Not one of the arab tribes ever had that genetic marker, but some do have another that makes them prone to sickle cell anaemia, mainly the Egyptians. And the majority of Palestinians also have the same defective gene.

So what was the cause of the LoN mandate command to set up the Jewish National home in Palestine and probably extending from the sea to the eastern border of what is now Jordan. This comes from the San Remo conference in 1920. A full 25 years before the end of WW2 and a full 16 years before the rise to power of the German National Socialist Workers Party. So once again you invoke Goodwins Law and bring Hitler and the Holocaust into the equation.


By the way the Palestinians never existed as a nationality before 1960, before that they were mongrel arab muslim itinerant workers going where there was work. Just as the American's were doing the same during the great depression that affected the whole world.

 

[Manchester]

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Invoking Goodwins Law I see and bringing Hitler into the equation.
Now back to your points.............. The majority of the 8 million Palestinians have never lived in Israel or Palestine and are jumping on the gravy train. The evidence points to them being very recent arrivals in the last 50 years or so, others arrived in the previous 75 years from the surrounding areas on the promise of work on Jewish farms.

If the Palestinians were truly a 3rd world people then their survival rate would be much lower than it is, and the population would be shrinking. This shows that either they are not a 3rd world people and have access to medical treatment better than that in the USA or that the population is increasing through illegal migration.

Yes a two state solution is the best option short term and long term, the stumbling block is the Palestinians demands that must be met before they will even talk about peace talks. Very soon the over population will result in epidemics and starvation as nature invokes her laws, and the population will nose dive as they die out. There is already an epidemic of birth defects because of a dwindling gene pool and inter breeding.

Man, guy, now you are just making shit up.

Can't really discuss your fantasies about demographics, dude.

It is simple 3rd world peoples breed like flies because the survival rate is so poor, less than 10 in 1,000. The survival rate of the Palestinians is close to 386 in 1000.

The recognised evidence shows that the vast majority of alleged Palestinians are in fact recent migrants with many coming from Syria.

The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931 :: Middle East Quarterly

And with that those statistics pulled straight out of your ass you go on ignore.

99% mortality rate in the third world in-fucking-deed!

 

[natstew]

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How about a response that shows yours was whiny as the Jews have more right to be there under International Law that the arab muslims do. The Jews have the DNA marker that places them squarely in the land they originated from. the muslims DNA shows they come from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Saudi and many other Islamic nations within living memory.
Also the LoN remit for the Mandate compelled Britain to allow the migration of displaced Jews to the land of Palestine as it was destined to be their NATIONAL HOME.

I leave the reference to Hitler and the holocaust to whiny whingey neomarxists like yourself who invoke Goodwins law all the time.

DNA Markers, really?

The Zionists- most of them- are European. The only thing they have in common with the Hebrews is a religion.

And the only reason the world went along with this simply horrible idea in 1945 was because the world felt bad about what the Nazis did, as they should.

But the Palestinians had nothing to do with that, and they didn't deserve to have their land stolen.

You are wrong again. The European DNA was planted mostly by rape. The 'Promised Land" DNA is much older and goes back to the Diaspora under the Romans and the later one under the muslims. The European DNA doesn't replace the original DNA.

My Stewart DNA comes from Scotland, but I also carry Sanhedrin Jew DNA from the Mid-east, (Promised Land). I am proud of my Jewish DNA and even though I'm not a Jew by religion and my Jewish DNA is almost insignificant, I fully support the 'Children Of Israel' in their natural right to posses their ancestral homeland. All the Jews were never eliminated from their 'Promised Land', there has been Israeli DNA there since the Exodus from Slavery in Egypt. The Romans, Arabs, Christians, and 'Palestinians' have been the occupiers.

 

[natstew]

PBS aired a Documentary on the history of the Jews last night. Did any of you Jew haters watch it? No race of people on the face of the Earth has ever been persecuted as much, as widespread, and as harshly as the Jews. And why? Mostly because the politicians around them needed a 'scapegoat' to blame for their failures and roused the population against the Jews as the cause of their misery. It even happened to a lesser degree in America.

 

[toastman]

PBS aired a Documentary on the history of the Jews last night. Did any of you Jew haters watch it? No race of people on the face of the Earth has ever been persecuted as much, as widespread, and as harshly as the Jews. And why? Mostly because the politicians around them needed a 'scapegoat' to blame for their failures and roused the population against the Jews as the cause of their misery. It even happened to a lesser degree in America.

Another reason they were persecuted was because they were a minority.

The Jew haters here will of course say that the Jews are evil because they were kicked out of so many countries..

 

[Manchester]

PBS aired a Documentary on the history of the Jews last night. Did any of you Jew haters watch it? No race of people on the face of the Earth has ever been persecuted as much, as widespread, and as harshly as the Jews. And why? Mostly because the politicians around them needed a 'scapegoat' to blame for their failures and roused the population against the Jews as the cause of their misery. It even happened to a lesser degree in America.

Because Judeism is the only major religion without an imperative to recruit new members and so the followers of it keep themselves separate within a society. Groups that do not integrate in to society inevitably get demonized in hard times.

 

[Phoenall]

Man, guy, now you are just making shit up.

Can't really discuss your fantasies about demographics, dude.

It is simple 3rd world peoples breed like flies because the survival rate is so poor, less than 10 in 1,000. The survival rate of the Palestinians is close to 386 in 1000.

The recognised evidence shows that the vast majority of alleged Palestinians are in fact recent migrants with many coming from Syria.

The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931 :: Middle East Quarterly

And with that those statistics pulled straight out of your ass you go on ignore.

99% mortality rate in the third world in-fucking-deed!

Here you go the actual rates for the whole world

List of countries by infant mortality rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

PBS aired a Documentary on the history of the Jews last night. Did any of you Jew haters watch it? No race of people on the face of the Earth has ever been persecuted as much, as widespread, and as harshly as the Jews. And why? Mostly because the politicians around them needed a 'scapegoat' to blame for their failures and roused the population against the Jews as the cause of their misery. It even happened to a lesser degree in America.

Another reason they were persecuted was because they were a minority.

The Jew haters here will of course say that the Jews are evil because they were kicked out of so many countries..

Not forgetting that many went into finance and precious stones and became experts in these fields. Because of this many people see them as money grabbers and misers. Then there are the ones that went into entertainment and became big names in their fields, able to laugh at themselves and the conceptions of those who don't understand them.

The Jewish people excel in every field they enter and this cause jealousy in the Jew haters because they don't have the same hard work ethos. So believe that the Jews bribe their way into high paying jobs, and into government officials pockets

 

[Phoenall]

PBS aired a Documentary on the history of the Jews last night. Did any of you Jew haters watch it? No race of people on the face of the Earth has ever been persecuted as much, as widespread, and as harshly as the Jews. And why? Mostly because the politicians around them needed a 'scapegoat' to blame for their failures and roused the population against the Jews as the cause of their misery. It even happened to a lesser degree in America.

Because Judeism is the only major religion without an imperative to recruit new members and so the followers of it keep themselves separate within a society. Groups that do not integrate in to society inevitably get demonized in hard times.

You will find that the Jews do integrate into society, it is society that keeps them at arms reach. The muslims don't integrate and will stop their children from socialising with the indigenous children because they don't want any taint on their religious brainwashing.

 

[Hossfly]

I'm all for this. Not a fan of Israel in general, but Pollard got an excessive sentence for spying for an allied country.

well, i am a fan of israel. (you would be too if you were being fair). but jonathan pollard got a sentence far disproportionate to anyone else convicted of similar acts. time for him to go home.

Israel is like an abused child that has gotten big enough to beat on someone else.

I think I'm being reasonably fair. I remember when I was a college conservative, and i had to listen to some liberal Jewish kid in the 1980's going on and on about Apartheid South Africa and how wrong that was.

Then I hit him with, "And how is that different from what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians?"

Dead silence.

Now at the time, my position was that we were in this World Wide struggle with evil Communism, and we had to throw in with certain people to win. That's not my position now.

You can't call yourself a "Democracy" when you regulate the indiginous people of the land to second-class citizenship.

By the way, I don't have an easy solution. I don't see Israel becoming South Africa, where everyone sat down with reconciliation councils There is no Palestinian Mandela. This will all end badly.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, fellow. The difference between South Africa and Israel in the treatment of people is that South African Blacks are citizens of their country and the Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Any treatment the Palestinians receive is merited by their actions, good or bad.

 

[RoccoR]

Hossfly, JoeB131, jillian, et al,

Our friend "Hossfly" scores a bullseye.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, fellow. The difference between South Africa and Israel in the treatment of people is that South African Blacks are citizens of their country and the Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Any treatment the Palestinians receive is merited by their actions, good or bad.

(COMMENT)

The totally domestic situation that South Africa presented is mutually exclusive of the Israeli-Palestinian set of issues.

The Arab-Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not citizens of Israel (using Armistice Lines). However, the South African Blacks were citizen of South Africa (domestic populations).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Truthseeker420]

Hossfly, JoeB131, jillian, et al,

Our friend "Hossfly" scores a bullseye.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, fellow. The difference between South Africa and Israel in the treatment of people is that South African Blacks are citizens of their country and the Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Any treatment the Palestinians receive is merited by their actions, good or bad.

(COMMENT)

The totally domestic situation that South Africa presented is mutually exclusive of the Israeli-Palestinian set of issues.

The Arab-Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not citizens of Israel (using Armistice Lines). However, the South African Blacks were citizen of South Africa (domestic populations).

Most Respectfully,
R

You got the bull part right.

 

[CMike]

Obama/Kerry are using Pollard as a hostage.

 

[CMike]

The US spies on Israel

Israel condemns US spying revelations | World news | theguardian.com

Israel unmoved by reports that US, UK intelligence spied on Olmert, Barak in 2009 | JPost | Israel News

 

[Phoenall]

Hossfly, JoeB131, jillian, et al,

Our friend "Hossfly" scores a bullseye.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, fellow. The difference between South Africa and Israel in the treatment of people is that South African Blacks are citizens of their country and the Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Any treatment the Palestinians receive is merited by their actions, good or bad.

(COMMENT)

The totally domestic situation that South Africa presented is mutually exclusive of the Israeli-Palestinian set of issues.

The Arab-Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not citizens of Israel (using Armistice Lines). However, the South African Blacks were citizen of South Africa (domestic populations).

Most Respectfully,
R

You got the bull part right.

So you can produce a treaty signed by the Palestinians that gives Israel full governmental control of Palestine and makes all Palestinians now Israelis ?

 

[JoeB131]

Most of the Ashkenazi Jews have a shared genetic marker that only exists in those people who were related to Abraham of Biblical fame. It is transmitted along the matrilineal line so any male genes entering the pool would swamp the haplotype and eradicate it within 2 generations.
Not one of the arab tribes ever had that genetic marker, but some do have another that makes them prone to sickle cell anaemia, mainly the Egyptians. And the majority of Palestinians also have the same defective gene.

Really? Did they dig up Abraham's corpse and check it? (Psst. Psst. Abraham is a myth, and the Arabs trace their lineage to him as well through Ishmael.)

So what was the cause of the LoN mandate command to set up the Jewish National home in Palestine and probably extending from the sea to the eastern border of what is now Jordan. This comes from the San Remo conference in 1920. A full 25 years before the end of WW2 and a full 16 years before the rise to power of the German National Socialist Workers Party. So once again you invoke Goodwins Law and bring Hitler and the Holocaust into the equation.

But here was the thing. When the British, who were just looking for someone to help them colonize the area said, "Hey, open for business", here's what happened. Most of Europe's Jews were all like, "No, thanks, we're good here." It was only after the war you had them showing up by the boatload, with a lot of American and British help.

By the way the Palestinians never existed as a nationality before 1960, before that they were mongrel arab muslim itinerant workers going where there was work. Just as the American's were doing the same during the great depression that affected the whole world.

I'm not sure what you mean by a "nationality". Who was living in the place prior to 1920? Arabs or Jews?