US flight delays near 7,000 as government shutdown hits Day 27

[SweetTea]

2021: Biden restored & expanded subsidies → premiums fell again

Net premiums fell...sure, because the government(taxpayers) was picking up more of the tab. Gross premiums were still rising.

• 2025 GOP budget ends those subsidies to fund tax breaks for the top 1% → premiums rise again.

Duh, but again, net premiums, not gross. Somebody is paying for the increase.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There shouldn't be flight delays during a shutdown.

There should be no flights to delay. If the government is shutdown, it should shutdown.

WW

I wish you would keep repeating this stupidity, so everyone will recognize your demented status and never again listen to any of the stupid shit you post.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Thune needs to go nuclear so there are no more shutdowns. The DC clown show continues...
Republicans didn't get elected to let democrats stop the BBB items.

Why don't the Democrats just cave?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Have a vote with 51 Senators in favor.

1st to suspend the clotur rule - simple majority.
2nd to end debate - simple majority.

3rd to pass the CR or budget - simple majority.

WW

Great and then give the Democrats a reason to do it if they ever return to power. The Senate is supposed to promote debate. The filibuster to suspend debate has been around 200 years.

I guess you never saw "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" with Jimmy Stewart. His filibuster saves his own neck in the end.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Thune can't go nuclear without a change to the rules. That takes 51 votes to change the rules.

No DEMs will vote for it. Meaning he needs either 51 GOP Senators to vote for it OR 50 GOP Senators in a 50/50 tie with the DEMs, then and only then can the Vice president cast a tie breaking vote making it 51 to 50.

The Majority Whip is responsible for counting noses for the majority, you can bet the reason that it's not being discussed by the GOP is because they don't have the votes.

If Thune put such a rule change on the floor and lost, that would be a major defeat and loss of political capital.

He's not going to put it up to a vote.

WW

I think you would be surprised how many Dems would look forward to the day when they might scam their way back into the majority. They might just vote for it out of spite.

However, the rest of you post is dead on target. Fire for effect.

 

[Nostra]

Flight delays continue to increase as more and more controllers and airport workers are forced to call in sick - as they are not being paid. secen thousand flights were delayed yesterday.

US flight delays near 7,000 as government shutdown hits Day 27​

MSN

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. air travel turmoil deepened as nearly 7,000 flights were delayed nationwide on Monday, with air traffic controller absences surging as the federal government shutdown reached its 27th day.

The Federal Aviation Administration cited staffing shortages and imposed ground delay programs affecting Newark Airport in New Jersey, Austin Airport in Texas and Dallas Fort Worth International Airport on Monday. Flights in the southeast were delayed earlier because of significant staffing shortages at the Atlanta Terminal Radar Approach Control.

Roughly 13,000 air traffic controllers and 50,000 Transportation Security Administration officers must work without pay after a budget impasse between Republican President Donald Trump and congressional Democrats triggered the shutdown.

The Trump administration has warned flight disruptions will increase as controllers miss their first full paycheck on Tuesday.

More than 8,800 flights were delayed on Sunday.

Shutdown Schumer is really ******* America, huh Simp.


A CR is simply an appropriation of funds for programs that have already been negotiated, voted on, passed, and signed into law.

This is not a place to try to start new spending or programs. In fact, new spending is PROHIBITED in a CR.


Summary

The program activities of most federal agencies are generally funded on an annual basis through the enactment of regular appropriations acts. When those annual appropriations acts are not enacted by the beginning of the fiscal year (October 1), one or more continuing appropriations acts (commonly known as continuing resolutions or CRs) may be enacted to provide temporary funding to continue certain programs and activities until action on the regular appropriations acts is completed.

There are six main features of CRs.

First, CRs have provided funding for certain activities (coverage), which are typically specified with reference to the prior fiscal year's appropriations acts.

Second, CRs provide budget authority for a specified duration of time. This duration may be as short as a single day or as long as the remainder of the fiscal year.

Third, in recent practice, CRs have typically provided funds based on an overall funding rate rather than in specified amounts.

Fourth, the use of budget authority provided in the CR has been prohibited for new activities not funded in the previous fiscal year.

Fifth, the duration and amount of funds in the CR, and purposes for which they may be used for specified activities, may be adjusted through anomalies.

Sixth, legislative provisions—which create, amend, or extend other laws—have been included in some instances.


https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R46595

 

[initforme]

If the air traffic controllers all call in sick, how would yhat affect things?

 

[WorldWatcher]

If the air traffic controllers all call in sick, how would yhat affect things?

My wife recently had to fly from the West Coast home to the East Coast.

..... ..... If all the controllers called in sick....

..... ..... ..... ..... There would be no flights...

..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... She would have to delay getting home...

..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... So I guess I could crack a beer to celebrate!

WW

 

[kyzr]

Why don't the Democrats just cave?

Never happen. Even if a few sign on for the CR, none of them would vote for the Appropriations Bills.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Never happen. Even if a few sign on for the CR, none of them would vote for the Appropriations Bills.

NOBODY CARES how they vote on the appropriations bills because the Republicans are in the majority in the House.