US Energy Production Hits All-Time High

sealybobo said:
Clarence Thomas doesn't have the wealth either but he's in the billionaires pockets. So there's an example of how Republican appointed judges are the judges for the rich.

Democrats want affordable healthcare for poor people, raise minimum wage, support unions, middle class tax breaks.

Twice as many companies paying zero taxes under Trump tax plan​

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act lowered the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 21 percent. In its first year, the number of companies paying no taxes went from 30 to 60.

Trump/Republicans are for the mega rich.

Democrats have rich donors too but the Democratic platform has always been pro labor. Trump's now trying to say he and the Republicans want to pay workers more and strengthen social security? Bullshit. Trump the other day said he wanted to not tax social security. That's a great idea.
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The Democrat platform is endless spending, higher taxes, more debt and more illegals. The fun never stops until interest payments on the debt cause a default.
 
sealybobo said:
They're following Trump's business model.

EV is going away. Hybrids are the thing now.
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Thinking humans (excepting democrats), understood that EV mandates and ending production of gasoline powered cars in the next 10 years was never going to happen.
 
Hollie said:
The Democrat platform is endless spending, higher taxes, more debt and more illegals. The fun never stops until interest payments on the debt cause a default.
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Nope. When we fix the economy, then we get a surplus. Unfortunately Bush and Trump handed Obama and Biden messes.

Higher taxes on the rich, yes. Lower on middle class.

Both parties double the debt so that's a wash. I like what Democrats spend on. Infrastructure.

More immigrants? We need them.

The interest payments on the debt will cause a default when the bankers and corporations and Republicans decide to do it. I think in 10 years when social security goes bankrupt, that will be the day they do it. But it'll be fabricated.

If I'm wrong, please tell me when the interest rates on the debt will put us into default? There must be a number. There is not. So it will happen when the billionaires and corporations decide it should happen. Like the Great Recession right as Bush is leaving office. That was a bank robbery and you know it. The bankers held us up and we paid the ransom.
 
sealybobo said:
Nope. When we fix the economy, then we get a surplus. Unfortunately Bush and Trump handed Obama and Biden messes.

Higher taxes on the rich, yes. Lower on middle class.

Both parties double the debt so that's a wash. I like what Democrats spend on. Infrastructure.

More immigrants? We need them.

The interest payments on the debt will cause a default when the bankers and corporations and Republicans decide to do it. I think in 10 years when social security goes bankrupt, that will be the day they do it. But it'll be fabricated.

If I'm wrong, please tell me when the interest rates on the debt will put us into default? There must be a number. There is not. So it will happen when the billionaires and corporations decide it should happen. Like the Great Recession right as Bush is leaving office. That was a bank robbery and you know it. The bankers held us up and we paid the ransom.
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Democrats won't fix the economy by spending $trillions of dollars and building eight EV charging stations or giving free medicaid to millions of illegals. ,"tax the rich" is a slogan used by democrats but it's pointless. More taxes and more spending on green Boondoggles solves nothing.

Harris has stated she wants healthcare for all, including illegals. Who pays for that?
 
Hollie said:
Democrats won't fix the economy by spending $trillions of dollars and building eight EV charging stations or giving free medicaid to millions of illegals. ,"tax the rich" is a slogan used by democrats but it's pointless. More taxes and more spending on green Boondoggles solves nothing.

Harris has stated she wants healthcare for all, including illegals. Who pays for that?
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Make the illegals legal and tax them too. Not just the rich.

Fact is, we can't fix America without taxes. And your days of cutting taxes for the rich are over. They already pay too low
 
sealybobo said:
They're following Trump's business model.

EV is going away. Hybrids are the thing now.
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EV makers Fisker, Lordstown Motors, Proterra, and Electric Last Mile Solutionswent bankrupt.
Other EV makers, such as Nikola and Faraday Future, remain in business but are trading for less than $1 per share due to operational challenges, missed targets, and broader industry headwinds.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/18/fisker-ev-maker-bankruptcy.html#:~:text=It's the latest in a,targets and broader industry headwinds.
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sealybobo said:
They're following Trump's business model.

EV is going away. Hybrids are the thing now.
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Nonsense.
sealybobo said:
Make the illegals legal and tax them too. Not just the rich.

Fact is, we can't fix America without taxes. And your days of cutting taxes for the rich are over. They already pay too low.
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"More taxes" is a slogan used by democrats because they can't be responsible with money. Tax and spend is not a solution.
 
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sealybobo said:
Make the illegals legal and tax them too. Not just the rich.

Fact is, we can't fix America without taxes. And your days of cutting taxes for the rich are over. They already pay too low
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Importing millions of illegals was designed to generate a voter Base for Democrats. Millions of low-no skilled third worlders who soak up welfare are not a tax base.
 
sealybobo said:
Nope. When we fix the economy, then we get a surplus. Unfortunately Bush and Trump handed Obama and Biden messes.

Higher taxes on the rich, yes. Lower on middle class.

Both parties double the debt so that's a wash. I like what Democrats spend on. Infrastructure.

More immigrants? We need them.

The interest payments on the debt will cause a default when the bankers and corporations and Republicans decide to do it. I think in 10 years when social security goes bankrupt, that will be the day they do it. But it'll be fabricated.

If I'm wrong, please tell me when the interest rates on the debt will put us into default? There must be a number. There is not. So it will happen when the billionaires and corporations decide it should happen. Like the Great Recession right as Bush is leaving office. That was a bank robbery and you know it. The bankers held us up and we paid the ransom.
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Why do you think oil production was so low during the Bush administration?
 
theHawk said:
Until the election, then back to banning oil. Same old playbook by the left.
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During President George W. Bush’s last year in office, U.S. oil production was 5.0 million BPD. By the end of President Obama’s first term, that had climbed to more than 7 million BPD.

By the third year of Obama’s second term, U.S. oil production had nearly doubled to 9.7 million BPD.
 
surada said:
During President George W. Bush’s last year in office, U.S. oil production was 5.0 million BPD. By the end of President Obama’s first term, that had climbed to more than 7 million BPD.

By the third year of Obama’s second term, U.S. oil production had nearly doubled to 9.7 million BPD.
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And yet they still tried to strangle production and penalize people for using gasoline.

You see the population keeps growing so production goes up, but not enough to keep it cheap when Dems are running things.

Biden and Kamala want to ban fracking, they want to force everyone to drive EVs. They want to penalize people for driving gasoline vehicles. That’s a fact.
 
Hollie said:
EV makers Fisker, Lordstown Motors, Proterra, and Electric Last Mile Solutionswent bankrupt.
Other EV makers, such as Nikola and Faraday Future, remain in business but are trading for less than $1 per share due to operational challenges, missed targets, and broader industry headwinds.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/18/fisker-ev-maker-bankruptcy.html#:~:text=It's the latest in a,targets and broader industry headwinds.
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Nonsense.


"More taxes" is a slogan used by democrats because they can't be responsible with money. Tax and spend is not a solution.
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Some examples of defunct car companies include Pontiac, Plymouth, Oldsmobile, and Mercury, as well as AC Propulsion (1997–2003), Apex Motor Car Company (1920–1922), and Acme Motor Car Company (1903–1911).
 
sealybobo said:
Some examples of defunct car companies include Pontiac, Plymouth, Oldsmobile, and Mercury, as well as AC Propulsion (1997–2003), Apex Motor Car Company (1920–1922), and Acme Motor Car Company (1903–1911).
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None of those examples were a function of government mandates.
 
theHawk said:
And yet they still tried to strangle production and penalize people for using gasoline.

You see the population keeps growing so production goes up, but not enough to keep it cheap when Dems are running things.

Biden and Kamala want to ban fracking, they want to force everyone to drive EVs. They want to penalize people for driving gasoline vehicles. That’s a fact.
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Cheap gasoline is history. Gas hasn't caught up with housing, healthcare, education etc .

Fracking may not be a good idea as a standard practice. After all most US wells produce fewer than 50 barrels a day.
 
Hollie said:
None of those examples were a function of government mandates.
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Do you know the government invented the internet? Corporations didn't see the money in it. Plus companies hate spending on R&D. But boy did they take it over huh? Amazon baby!!!! Twitter!!! Facebook. They should pay taxes.

Government mandates EV and Hybrids because gas is bad. So is coal. Wake up.

Energy production is at an all time high. What more do you want Biden/Kamala to do?

It's like you guys are looking for something to complain about and your issues are pathetic.
Inflation/Prices is number one issue. But 11% say immigration is. Those are all Republicans.

3. Healthcare. I agree. Important issue.
4. Jobs/Economy
5. ABORTION. Boy is Trump fucked
6. Climate/Environment (another one for my side)
7. Civil Rights (another one for us)
9. Taxes and government spending only 4% are worried about that

www.statista.com

Most important issues U.S. 2025| Statista

A survey conducted in February 2025 found that the most important issue for 24 percent of Americans was inflation and prices.
www.statista.com www.statista.com
 
abcnews.go.com

Trump says 'drill, baby, drill,' but the record for US oil production isn't his

During Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

However, during Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

Crude oil production averaged 12.9 million barrels per day in 2023, breaking the previous U.S. and global record of 12.3 million, set in 2019, according to the agency.

Throughout his bid for reelection, Trump has been vocal about his plans to double down on reliance on fossil fuels and reverse federal climate action.
 
Hollie said:
EV makers Fisker, Lordstown Motors, Proterra, and Electric Last Mile Solutionswent bankrupt.
Other EV makers, such as Nikola and Faraday Future, remain in business but are trading for less than $1 per share due to operational challenges, missed targets, and broader industry headwinds.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/18/fisker-ev-maker-bankruptcy.html#:~:text=It's the latest in a,targets and broader industry headwinds.
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Jun 18, 2024 — It's the latest in a series of EV companies to collapse. Other companies backed by special purpose acquisition companies, or SPAC, have also filed f...
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Jun 18, 2024 — The Ocean was also the subject of a review that month by American YouTuber Marques Brownlee titled, “This is the Worst Car I've Ever Reviewed.” “Do ...
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May 19, 2024 — China's EV makers are having more trouble paying their bills and now take 2 to 3 times longer than Tesla does | Fortune.
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Jun 30, 2024 — A handful of other electric vehicle makers, including Lordstown Motors, Arrival, and Volta Trucks, have also filed for bankruptcy amid a more-challe...
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Nonsense.


"More taxes" is a slogan used by democrats because they can't be responsible with money. Tax and spend is not a solution.
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Democrats always do better with money than Republicans. Always.
 
Hollie said:
None of those examples were a function of government mandates.
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And they were model lines in many cases. Ford still makes cars and trucks but stopped Mercury cars. Sillybozo is mostly an old blue collar union ignoramus but also a lying DemComee loon.
 
surada said:
abcnews.go.com

Trump says 'drill, baby, drill,' but the record for US oil production isn't his

During Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

However, during Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

Crude oil production averaged 12.9 million barrels per day in 2023, breaking the previous U.S. and global record of 12.3 million, set in 2019, according to the agency.

Throughout his bid for reelection, Trump has been vocal about his plans to double down on reliance on fossil fuels and reverse federal climate action.
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Look at the last three words in this brainwashed clowns post. “federal climate action”. Holy Toledo. Where to begin? I don’t have the strength on a tablet.
 
Hollie said:
The Democrat platform is endless spending, higher taxes, more debt and more illegals. The fun never stops until interest payments on the debt cause a default.
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Only 4% say taxes and government spending is their top issue.

www.statista.com

Most important issues U.S. 2025| Statista

A survey conducted in February 2025 found that the most important issue for 24 percent of Americans was inflation and prices.
www.statista.com www.statista.com

11% say immigration is their # 1 concern. All Republicans being riled up about this because the economy is going well.

The biggest issue is inflation and prices. I will use two Republicans words against you

Ron DeSantis and Chris Christie Call Out Trump for Adding to Federal Debt​

"He owes it to you to defend his record where they added $7.8 trillion to the debt that set the stage for the inflation that we have."​

 
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