US destroyer collides with merchant ship near Singapore

[namvet]

i know nothing about it but i heard that reason or excuse . Also heard that ship of this sort have backup steering provisions . [i don't know but that makes sense to me] . That being said , if steering failure is true why was the Commander or main man fired NVet ??

because of this and the other 3 incidents. loss of confidence

-------------------------------------------------- thankyou , makes sense . I wonder if this Fleet Commander was a 'mrobama' boy NVet .

yes. he took command in September 2015

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Do not aggravate me folks------maritime accidents are not at all rare------and we lose boys regularly.
Kids drive ships like they drive cars. They are kids

Kids? I had a kid of my own by the time they let me drive my guided missile cruiser, and I was damned good at it!

My CO was in his late 40s and we did nothing, and I mean nothing, without his permission.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't get it. GIANT OCEAN, little ships.
Do these people have driver's licenses too?

Exactly!!!!!! I mean HUGE Ocean!!!! HUGE

and two ships don't have enough space?

what shit is this? pardon my french please but....what's the problem???

Total craziness.

Ever been through those straits? It's not that big when you put a good number of the world's ships in there.

 

[skye]

I don't get it. GIANT OCEAN, little ships.
Do these people have driver's licenses too?

Exactly!!!!!! I mean HUGE Ocean!!!! HUGE

and two ships don't have enough space?

what shit is this? pardon my french please but....what's the problem???

Total craziness.

Ever been through those straits? It's not that big when you put a good number of the world's ships in there.

Then drive a Choo-Choo

not a ship.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, everything after that is a pattern. I'm no conspiracy nut but something is going on.

I agree. These guided missile destroyers have the most advanced radar systems on earth. They should be aware of everything in the air and water a long ways out. I'd bet someone is ******* with us with electronic warfare, and we'd better figure out what is happening, who is doing it, and come up with effective countermeasures before the shit hits the fan.

How does electronic warfare prevent the Officer-of-the-Deck from seeing a ship bearing down on him and avoid colliding with it?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I also heard the officials are not ruling out a possible cyber hack.

That bullshit is getting really old very quickly!

You cannot hack a crewmember's eyeballs!

 

[Borillar]

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, everything after that is a pattern. I'm no conspiracy nut but something is going on.

I agree. These guided missile destroyers have the most advanced radar systems on earth. They should be aware of everything in the air and water a long ways out. I'd bet someone is ******* with us with electronic warfare, and we'd better figure out what is happening, who is doing it, and come up with effective countermeasures before the shit hits the fan.

How does electronic warfare prevent the Officer-of-the-Deck from seeing a ship bearing down on him and avoid colliding with it?

That question bothers me too. How could watchstanders and lookouts possibly miss this? The only answer I can think of is that they relied too heavily on technology which somehow failed.

 

[irosie91]

Do not aggravate me folks------maritime accidents are not at all rare------and we lose boys regularly.
Kids drive ships like they drive cars. They are kids

Kids? I had a kid of my own by the time they let me drive my guided missile cruiser, and I was damned good at it!

My CO was in his late 40s and we did nothing, and I mean nothing, without his permission.

Kids in the navy still make lots of mistakes------please do not aggravate me------I was THEIR ADVOCATE.
In fact,, the "old" captains, also make mistakes-----some of them make such serious mistakes that they
end up in LEAVENWORTH. I am sorry for the captain of the Singapore ship------his ass is in a sling

 

[pismoe]

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, everything after that is a pattern. I'm no conspiracy nut but something is going on.

I agree. These guided missile destroyers have the most advanced radar systems on earth. They should be aware of everything in the air and water a long ways out. I'd bet someone is ******* with us with electronic warfare, and we'd better figure out what is happening, who is doing it, and come up with effective countermeasures before the shit hits the fan.

How does electronic warfare prevent the Officer-of-the-Deck from seeing a ship bearing down on him and avoid colliding with it?

--------------------------------------------------- --- seeing with their own eyes --- seems that thats a very important question , maybe the most important question .

 

[pismoe]

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, everything after that is a pattern. I'm no conspiracy nut but something is going on.

I agree. These guided missile destroyers have the most advanced radar systems on earth. They should be aware of everything in the air and water a long ways out. I'd bet someone is ******* with us with electronic warfare, and we'd better figure out what is happening, who is doing it, and come up with effective countermeasures before the shit hits the fan.

How does electronic warfare prevent the Officer-of-the-Deck from seeing a ship bearing down on him and avoid colliding with it?

That question bothers me too. How could watchstanders and lookouts possibly miss this? The only answer I can think of is that they relied too heavily on technology which somehow failed.

------------------------- sleeping , maybe doped up and dreaming or maybe having some illicit fun with the ship on cruise control .

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Do not aggravate me folks------maritime accidents are not at all rare------and we lose boys regularly.
Kids drive ships like they drive cars. They are kids

Kids? I had a kid of my own by the time they let me drive my guided missile cruiser, and I was damned good at it!

My CO was in his late 40s and we did nothing, and I mean nothing, without his permission.

Kids in the navy still make lots of mistakes------please do not aggravate me------I was THEIR ADVOCATE.
In fact,, the "old" captains, also make mistakes-----some of them make such serious mistakes that they
end up in LEAVENWORTH. I am sorry for the captain of the Singapore ship------his ass is in a sling

Aggravate you? Who died and made you God?

It was a stupid, baseless statement. How many years did you stand watch on the bridge of a Navy warship?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, everything after that is a pattern. I'm no conspiracy nut but something is going on.

I agree. These guided missile destroyers have the most advanced radar systems on earth. They should be aware of everything in the air and water a long ways out. I'd bet someone is ******* with us with electronic warfare, and we'd better figure out what is happening, who is doing it, and come up with effective countermeasures before the shit hits the fan.

How does electronic warfare prevent the Officer-of-the-Deck from seeing a ship bearing down on him and avoid colliding with it?

That question bothers me too. How could watchstanders and lookouts possibly miss this? The only answer I can think of is that they relied too heavily on technology which somehow failed.

"Constant bearing, decreasing range", or "CDBR" is the indication of a collision, whether you are using technology or not.

 

[irosie91]

Do not aggravate me folks------maritime accidents are not at all rare------and we lose boys regularly.
Kids drive ships like they drive cars. They are kids

Kids? I had a kid of my own by the time they let me drive my guided missile cruiser, and I was damned good at it!

My CO was in his late 40s and we did nothing, and I mean nothing, without his permission.

Kids in the navy still make lots of mistakes------please do not aggravate me------I was THEIR ADVOCATE.
In fact,, the "old" captains, also make mistakes-----some of them make such serious mistakes that they
end up in LEAVENWORTH. I am sorry for the captain of the Singapore ship------his ass is in a sling

Aggravate you? Who died and made you God?

It was a stupid, baseless statement. How many years did you stand watch on the bridge of a Navy warship?

none------I never served on a ship------I handled the casualties, to wit, the victims of the MANY mishaps

 

[Borillar]

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, everything after that is a pattern. I'm no conspiracy nut but something is going on.

I agree. These guided missile destroyers have the most advanced radar systems on earth. They should be aware of everything in the air and water a long ways out. I'd bet someone is ******* with us with electronic warfare, and we'd better figure out what is happening, who is doing it, and come up with effective countermeasures before the shit hits the fan.

How does electronic warfare prevent the Officer-of-the-Deck from seeing a ship bearing down on him and avoid colliding with it?

That question bothers me too. How could watchstanders and lookouts possibly miss this? The only answer I can think of is that they relied too heavily on technology which somehow failed.

"Constant bearing, decreasing range", or "CDBR" is the indication of a collision, whether you are using technology or not.

So the radar operators, quartermaster, OOD, JOOD, helmsman, lookout, low visibility detail, boatswain's mate of the watch, anyone else on duty, everyone was derelict or asleep at the wheel? Doesn't seem likely, does it?

 

[depotoo]

Middle of the night, possibly no moon. Coordinated attack-cyber and no running lights on the container ship. Not enough response time when you see it approaching. Not a possibility?

I also heard the officials are not ruling out a possible cyber hack.

That bullshit is getting really old very quickly!

You cannot hack a crewmember's eyeballs!

 

[pismoe]

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, everything after that is a pattern. I'm no conspiracy nut but something is going on.

I agree. These guided missile destroyers have the most advanced radar systems on earth. They should be aware of everything in the air and water a long ways out. I'd bet someone is ******* with us with electronic warfare, and we'd better figure out what is happening, who is doing it, and come up with effective countermeasures before the shit hits the fan.

How does electronic warfare prevent the Officer-of-the-Deck from seeing a ship bearing down on him and avoid colliding with it?

That question bothers me too. How could watchstanders and lookouts possibly miss this? The only answer I can think of is that they relied too heavily on technology which somehow failed.

"Constant bearing, decreasing range", or "CDBR" is the indication of a collision, whether you are using technology or not.

So the radar operators, quartermaster, OOD, JOOD, helmsman, lookout, low visibility detail, boatswain's mate of the watch, anyone else on duty, everyone was derelict or asleep at the wheel? Doesn't seem likely, does it?

------------------------------------------ with that many running around and normally alert why didn't they see what was happening if not for Deraliction Borilar

 

[miketx]

Rumor has it these incidents are intentional.

 

[pismoe]

well , it is the USA Navy that mrobama built over a period of 8 years Miketx.

 

[miketx]

Yes indeed, jughead has a hand in this for sure.

 

[pismoe]

May be or likely is a 'Fifth Column' ' in the USA Navy and Military and why not because the 'fifth column' is here on the streets of America ?? See the 'somalis' that advocate for muslim 'sharia' law in Minnesota as example , what happens when they join the Military . I hear quite often that the USA should let foreigners into USA military as a way to earn citizenship and i am totally against that idea and that is faulty thinking .